Tech: Mudcat server

Subject: Tech: Mudcat server
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 03:46 AM

Am I right in thinking we only have one server now, that Shorty and Ragtime are no more?
Recently I've had trouble getting through at 08.30GMT which is usually my morning check-the-e-mails time and the old alternative routes didn't work either.
Are we overloading the Mudcat with our BS?
RtS
(technoklutz)

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat server
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 04:03 AM

I had the same problems and wrote privately to Joe Offer, who replied (don't think he'd mind my quoting him):

ragtime and loki are gone. www.mudcat.org is having some reliability problems. I hope we can get it fixed soon. We have two servers, www.mudcat.org and shorty.mudcat.org - Shorty's working now.

Here's a link:

http://shorty.mudcat.org/threads.cfm

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat server
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 04:09 AM

Thanks, Shorty didn't work for me yesterday but now I know it is live, I'll keep it bookmarked & delete loki & ragtime.
Thanks
RtS

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat server
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 08:10 AM

I bookmarked the link to Shorty some time back. Netscape has been playing silly buggers for a few weeks now & a clever friend asked very techo questions & told me what to do to fix it & mostly it works.

Sometimes I get in by my original mudcat link, sometimes by the shorty bookmark, & sometimes (like now) I can only get in thru the mudcat link on my folk club website. I logged in by shorty tonight, read a few threads, then I couldn't move between threads - it kept trying to get hold of the link to my e-mail. So I said lots of rude words, & tried several other (non-Mudcat) links, none of which worked & eventually got back via the folk club link. I think I'll have to speak to my techo mate again cos this particular problem is surely not related to the Mudcat problem Joe Offer mentioned.

Sandra (& we have a new system at work - a so-called upgrade that had me swearing much of the day)

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat server
From: GUEST,Folkie
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 08:27 AM

I've also just had a work upgrade this week and have been having great difficulty in reaching all my favourite sites. I've been unable to get to Mudcat by any of my normal routes for several days and have just reached it via a Google search

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat server
From: Amos
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 10:07 AM

We can DO something about this!!

We can make things better!!

How?, you may well ask!


BUY MUDCAT CDS!! FLOOD DICK WITH ORDERS!! GET THEM ORDERS IN NOW!!


That's How!!


A

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat server
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 12:14 PM

We do have some technical issues to resolve, and I'm hoping they'll be taken care of soon. When he speaks of the speed he plans for the servers, Jeff uses words like "screaming" and other technobabble like that. I suppose he'll get us up to that point, sooner or later.

You have to remember, though, that Jeff and Max live in different parts of that vast wilderness known as Pennsylvania. I live in California, so I don't get involved in that part of the work at all - but I'm retired and have the time to work on the day-to-day things. Mudcat is housed at Max's home in West Chester, and it can be difficult for Max and Jeff to get together there to work on equipment. That's one of the reasons why it took so long to get the Mudcat upgrade in place. I won't make any predictions about when we'll be able to get our reliability issues worked out.

In the meantime, what I told Bonnie is pretty solid. Max directed the ragtime address to one of our two working servers, but ragtime itself is dead and gone. He also redirected the loki address, but not many people use it. There's also a www.deltablues.com address, and I think that redirects to one of the two servers.

We have two servers, www.mudcat.org and shorty.mudcat.org - both are working now. Here are links you can right-click and save to your favorites/bookmarks:

http://shorty.mudcat.org/threads.cfm
http://www.mudcat.org/threads.cfm

Please get out of the habit of using the other addresses. Use www.mudcat.org whenever you can, and shorty when the other doesn't work. When making links within Mudcat, use relative (internal) links that will work on either server (leave out the http://www.mudcat.org and just use the rest of the URL). When posting links in the Help Forum or sending a link by e-mail or whatever, DO use the http://www.mudcat.org - and generally it's probably best not to give out the shorty address unless you give it as an alternative to the regular address.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat server
From: CapriUni
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 12:23 PM

We have two servers, www.mudcat.org and shorty.mudcat.org

And, Joe, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the servers slow to a crawl and stop if too many people are trying to access it at once, right?

So, once I got onto Shorty, I bookmarked my personal page through there... Since I'm the only one to use that page, it generally loads much faster than the common forum page, and I can get in...

Now I may be speaking out of my left ear on this, and it's all in my imagination... but it seems to work anyway...

Just thought I'd share...

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat server
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 12:38 PM

Well, CapriUni, it's not quite that simple. One server is faster and more reliable than the other, and one gets slowed down by Mudchat. Jeff has explained all this to me, but I can't remember which is which (and it doesn't help for me to remember, because they keep changing things).
Oh, another think is that our MIDI files are rather scattered. When the server they're on isn't working, the MIDIs don't work. Our newest MIDI collection is the one you'll find in Quicklinks that is also crosslinked to threads and Digital Tradition entries - that's Mudcat MIDIs. Some of the MIDIs MMario and I uploaded most recently aren't working, and we can't get in to upload more - I'm waiting for Jeff to fix that for us.
We have moved most of the original Mudcat MIDIs to the new collection and crosslinked them, but we haven't completed and perfected that project. For the time being, the Alan of Oz MIDI Page is still working.
Then there are the Digital Tradition MIDI files (the Click to Play links at the bottom of DT lyrics), which don't seem to be working today.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat server
From: nutty
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 12:46 PM

Sandra .... I have a broadband connection which is usually pretty speedy but over the past few weeks Netscape globally has been a real pain. I say globally because I seem to have no problem connecting to sites here in the UK.
I am often finding that the problem is a Netscape rather than a Mudcat one.

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat server
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 29 Nov 02 - 07:10 AM

Hello, Nutty

I've been nearly driven mad, what with the new system at work & the general nastiness of several bosses, AND the problems with getting my daily does of sanity - Mudcat.

Last night I found another thread re current Netscape problems -
(Tech: trouble logging on with netscape
http://shorty.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=54098&messages=12 )
which I sent to work to read to my leisure.

I also asked by techo mate for help & hope he is able to assist, cos I know nothing technical.

bye for now
Sandra

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat server
From: EBarnacle1
Date: 29 Nov 02 - 10:07 AM

As the punch line from the old maritime tall tale goes, "Thank God it ain't me." I have also been having a rough time accessing Mudcat and though it was my search engine because if was occurring so often.