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Callino Casturame (In Summer Time)

MMario 04 Dec 02 - 04:38 PM
Noreen 04 Dec 02 - 06:11 PM
GUEST,Philippa 05 Dec 02 - 11:25 AM
MMario 05 Dec 02 - 11:28 AM
Noreen 05 Dec 02 - 12:36 PM
GUEST,Philippa 05 Dec 02 - 01:53 PM
Malcolm Douglas 05 Dec 02 - 02:28 PM
MMario 05 Dec 02 - 02:35 PM
GUEST,Matthew Edwards 06 Dec 02 - 02:08 AM
GUEST 06 Dec 02 - 04:04 AM
GUEST,Matthew Edwards 06 Dec 02 - 04:13 AM
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Subject: Callino Casturame (In Summer Time)
From: MMario
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 04:38 PM

see the music at callino casturame.

Okay - per Bruce - this is the "In summer time" that so many ballads have as a tune direction.

Most of which seem to have a cadence as per the lyrics below (Robin Hood and the Tinker)

the lyric is:

In summer time, when leaves grow green,
Down a down a down
And birds sing on every tree,
Hey down a down a down
Robin Hood went to Nottingham,
Down a down a down
As fast as he could dree.
Hey down a down a down

How the HECK do they fit together?


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Subject: RE: Callino Casturame (In Summer Time)
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Dec 02 - 06:11 PM

callino casturame


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Subject: RE: Callino Casturame (In Summer Time)
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 05 Dec 02 - 11:25 AM

Noreen, the library computer blocks http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/ballads/olson/B051.pdf under the "no pornography" rule

A song mentioned by Shakespeare
there have been some lyrics found in Scotland with the cailín cois tSuire mé lines in them; the supposed Irish original is lost
I may have written something about this on Mudcat a couple of years ago, if you'd like to try searching the archives


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Subject: RE: Callino Casturame (In Summer Time)
From: MMario
Date: 05 Dec 02 - 11:28 AM

yeah - but how does the music fit the lyrics?

(It's also available at Jc's abc finder...) my link didn't work...


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Subject: RE: Callino Casturame (In Summer Time)
From: Noreen
Date: 05 Dec 02 - 12:36 PM

MMario, the link I posted is your link, repaired.

Sorry but I know nothing of the tune or the words, only heard of the Shakespeare reference.

N


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Subject: RE: Callino Casturame (In Summer Time)
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 05 Dec 02 - 01:53 PM

see Callino Casturame (also known as 'Calen o custure me')


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Subject: RE: Callino Casturame (In Summer Time)
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 05 Dec 02 - 02:28 PM

Child wasn't terribly impressed by this one. "The fewest words will best befit this contemptible imitation of imitations", he remarked. All three texts he refers to are from broadsides; the ballad seems never to have been found in tradition. Child's a and c texts were taken from editions held at the Bodleian:

A New Song to drive away cold Winter, Between Robin Hood and the Jovial Tinker Printed between 1623 and 1661 for F. Grove dwelling on Snowhill [London]. Wood 401(17)

Robin Hood and the jolly tinker Printed between 1730 and 1758 by J. Hodges, at the Looking-Glass, on London Bridge. Douce Ballads 3(118b)

If you look closely at Bruce Olson's piece on Callino Callino Casturame, alias, In summer time, you'll see that he doesn't claim that all broadsides naming In Summer Time as tune necessarily refer to Callino. Simpson (The British Broadside Ballad and Its Music) quoted a different tune of the same name (from Pills to Purge Melancholy), and thought that there had probably been several. Although Bruce has filled a large gap there, I'd quote especially his comment on associated Robin Hood ballads:

"Evidently not to "Callino" is "A pleasant new Ballad of King Edward the fourth, and a Tanner of Tamworth", "To an excellent new tune", commencing "In Summer time when Leaves grow green", which was first entered in the Stationers' Register on Aug. 1, 1586. Its first line is cited as the tune for "The Noble Fisherman, or, Robin Hood's Preferment," (Child #148) entered June 31, 1631. Other Robin Hood ballads calling for the tune "In summer time" have a "derry down" type of refrain that will not fit the tune "Callino" as we know it."

This would include Robin Hood and the Tinker, of course. I realise that isn't much help, but it may stop you wasting too much of your time; it seems not unlikely that the tune intended is a completely different one.


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Subject: RE: Callino Casturame (In Summer Time)
From: MMario
Date: 05 Dec 02 - 02:35 PM

Thanks Malcolm! I missed that.

damn! thought I had a BUNCH with this one!
I DID find online a reprint of a book that is suppossed to have tunes for about 15 of the robin hood ballads - am going to try and order it.


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Subject: RE: Callino Casturame (In Summer Time)
From: GUEST,Matthew Edwards
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 02:08 AM

There are several MSS settings of tunes for the air Callino Casturame from the late sixteenth/ early seventeenth century called Callino, Calleno, or Callinoe. These are cited by F W Sternfield in Elizabethan and Jacobean Studies OUP, 1959 as
a) CALLINO ROBYNSON for cittern, in Cambridge University Library Dd.4.23
b) CALLENO for lute, in the William Ballet Lute Book in Trinity College Dublin. D.1.21
c) CALLINOE for lute, incomplete MS in Cambridge University Library, Dd.3.18
d) William Byrd's CALLINO CASTURAME for Virginals in the Fitzwilliam Virginal Book at Cambridge UL
e) & (f) two unidentified MSS of Byrd's setting
g) 'An Irish Tune CALLINO CASTORE ME' in Playford's Catch that catch can, or the Musical Companion published 1667

Sternfield notes that tunes (a)'Robinson', (b) 'Ballet' and (d) Byrd are variants of the same tune ( a sound-file played by Donald Sankey of Byrd's setting can be found here:- Byrd's Keyboard Music), while the Playford tune is different altogether.

It is important to note that these are all English settings of a tune which may have Irish origins but which an expert in early Irish music commented as having "no feature which might be accounted distinctively Irish" ( Aloys Fleischmann, Sources of Irish Traditional Music c.1600-1805. Garland, New York 1998).


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Subject: RE: Callino Casturame (In Summer Time)
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 04:04 AM

g) above isn't the same tune.


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Subject: RE: Callino Casturame (In Summer Time)
From: GUEST,Matthew Edwards
Date: 06 Dec 02 - 04:13 AM

GUEST,(is that you again, Bruce?) please read my message. I wrote "the Playford tune is different altogether". Isn't that clear enough?


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