Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafemuddy

Post to this Thread - Sort Descending - Printer Friendly - Home


Lyr Req: The Old Hat (Leake County Revelers)

DigiTrad:
LYNCHBURG TOWN


Related threads:
Lyr Req: Lynchburg Town alternate lyrics (19)
Tune Req: Lynchburg Town (13)
Lyr Req: humorous song: Goin' downtown (6)
Help: Lynchburg Town (4) (closed)


Richie 10 Dec 02 - 11:02 PM
Richie 11 Dec 02 - 12:11 AM
Richie 11 Dec 02 - 10:35 PM
Joe Offer 12 Dec 02 - 01:18 AM
GUEST 20 Jun 09 - 02:28 PM
maeve 01 Sep 09 - 02:26 PM
Jim Dixon 02 Sep 09 - 10:33 PM
Jim Dixon 02 Sep 09 - 11:07 PM
MGM·Lion 03 Sep 09 - 02:16 AM
MGM·Lion 03 Sep 09 - 02:21 AM
Peter M 06 Sep 09 - 08:44 PM
Share Thread
more
Lyrics & Knowledge Search [Advanced]
DT  Forum
Sort (Forum) by:relevance date
DT Lyrics:





Subject: Lyr Add: OLD HAT (from Leake County Revelers)
From: Richie
Date: 10 Dec 02 - 11:02 PM

I was trying to transcribe the Old Hat on Honkingduck and need some help with this version of "Goin' Down to Town/Lynchburg Town." Here is the music: http://www.honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=t&letter=o&title=The%2520Old%2520Hat&cuid=20133A

Old Hat by Leake County Revelers
Columbia 15205 - D Side A
Recorded: Unknown Issued: November 1927

(Fiddle intro)

When you hear your cow a-mooing
You know it's milkin' time,
Lift your leg ol' Gurnsey
Let some milk come down,

Flyin' on down town
Flyin' on down to town
Flyin' on down to Vicksburg town
To lay my banjo down.

(Fiddle break)

Flyin' on down town
Flyin' on down to town
Flyin' on down to Vicksburg Town
To lay my banjo down.

I went up to see my gal
See my one in all,
She jumped up beside me?
And we went to the ball?

Flyin' on down town
Flyin' on down to town
Flyin' on down to Vicksburg Town
To lay my banjo down.

(Fiddle break)

I never saw?
He's already left this town
? to see him
He already coming down?

Flyin' on down town
Flyin' on down to town
Flyin' on down to Vicksburg
To lay my banjo down.

(Fiddle break)

Flyin' on down town
Flyin' on down to town
Flyin' on down to Vicksburg Town
To lay my banjo down.

Raccoon up the Simmon tree
Possum on the ground
Possum said to the raccoon
Shake some simmons down.

Flyin' on down town
Flyin' on down to town
Flyin' on down to Vicksburg Town
To lay my banjo down.

(Fiddle break)

Raccoon on the main line
Possum on the swing
The rabbit ain't no railroad man?
       son of a gun?   

Flyin' on down town
Flyin' on down to town
Flyin' on down to Vicksburg Town
To lay my banjo down.

(Fiddle break)

Flyin' on down town
Flyin' on down to town
Flyin' on down to Vicksburg Town
To lay my banjo down.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Lyr. Cor: OLD HAT
From: Richie
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 12:11 AM

Found this on the web:

First verse goes:

"When you hear your cow a lowin',
You'll know it's milkin' time
So back your leg old Jersey
And let your milk come down."

Chorus:

Gwine on down town
Gwine on down to town
I'm going on down to Vicksburg town
To make my banjo sound.

Richie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Lyr. req: OLD HAT
From: Richie
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 10:35 PM

I guess nobody can understand what they are singing either!

-Richie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Lyr. req: OLD HAT
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Dec 02 - 01:18 AM

Hi, Richie - just because you haven't received any response, don't think people aren't paying attention. You did a great job of transcription, and picked the words out a lot better than I could.
This is good stuff.
-Joe Offer-


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: OLD HAT
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 02:28 PM

Sorry to respond to this thread years later but I've been focusing on gathering verese for this one lately & found this discussion via google.
I really like this Leake Co Revelers take on Goin Down to Town/Lynchburg with its interesting collection of charming floater verses, gorgeous rolling fiddle style & lovely fingerpicked banjo. But where in the world is the "old hat" of the title?

The melody's quite similar to Lynchburg Town as well as the southern coastal plain favorite, Shear'em/Sharem (parts of which later morphed into into Walkin in My Sleep &Take Me Back to Tulsa).

I'm putting together my assemblage of verses from the Leake Co. Revelers & substituted ones I've heard around here. The chorus, at least around here, is generally about tobacco trading. The Mississippi one was probably about tobacco as well.

GWINE on down town, gwine on down to town
I'm gwine on down to Vicksburg town( & in these parts they'll put in various tobacco towns-Joe Thompson sings "Reidsville" & others sing" Lynchburg")
For to take my TOBACCO (or 'BACCA) down.

And I like these verses (in no particular order):

I went down to shoo fly's house,
shoo fly wasn't at home
Ate up all of shoo fly's meat
And gave his dog the bone.

You have got the cow one right--& it's too wonderful to leave out:

When you hear that old cow lowin
You know it's milking time
Throw back your leg ol jersey
And let your milk come down.

Then there are the coon & possum & train verses:

Raccoon up a simmon tree
Possum on the ground
Raccoon says you son of a gun
Better throw some simmons down.

Raccoon on the main line
And possum on the swing
Raccoon said there ain't no railroad man
(LEAKE CO REVELERS SINGER MUFFS WORDS to the last line)
To tell me anything (is what we sing).

Gail
Chapel Hill


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Hat (Leake County Revelers)
From: maeve
Date: 01 Sep 09 - 02:26 PM

Your raccoon up a persimmon tree verse is very close to part of "Bushy Tail".

maeve


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Hat (Leake County Revelers)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 02 Sep 09 - 10:33 PM

I've been listening to this song at Honking Duck. It sure is a tough one. Here's what I think I can hear. The time in brackets indicates the point where each verse (or the chorus) begins. I have not bothered to show repetitions of the chorus.


OLD HAT
As sung by the Leake County Revelers

1. [0:15] When you hear your cow a-lowing,
You know it's milkin' time.
... ol' Jersey.
Let your milk come down.

CHORUS 1: [0:23] Gwine on down to town,
Gwine on down to town,
I'm goin'* on down to Vicksburg [or Lynchburg?] town
For to use my banjo sound.

2. [0:58] I went up to the ... house.
The ... wasn't at home.
I ain't gonna ... find me,
... bone.

3. [1:26] ... stole a punkin.
He tolled it away to town.
An' he couldn't ...
An' he throwed his punkin down.

4. [2:08] Raccoon up the 'simmon tree,
Possum on the ground,
And the possum said to the raccoon:
Will you shake some 'simmons down?

5. [2:36] Raccoon on the main line,
Possum on the swing;
The rabbit ain't no railroad man
But a runnin' son of a gun.

[*In some repetitions of the chorus, he uses "gwine" in place of "goin'".]


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Hat (Leake County Revelers)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 02 Sep 09 - 11:07 PM

Perhaps I should explain why I used the word "tolled" in verse 3.

To "toll" an animal means to lead it by tempting it with something it wants. You can toll a cat into the house by dragging a string along the ground. You can toll a horse or cow into the barn by offering it something it wants to eat.

That's a usage I learned from my mother, but I haven't heard it in years.

Some examples from Google Books:

"Borrowed a calf from me to toll a cow home" (1910)

"as you may toll a pig into a butcher's shop with one ear of corn" (1900)

"will we have some kind of feed in there to toll the cow?" (1903)

"'...and tell Ferdinand to toll the horses here as fast as he can.' Ferdinand
coaxingly approached the refractory steeds, shaking the pail...." (1871)


Now, I know tolling a pumpkin doesn't quite make sense, but it sure sounds like "tolled".


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Hat (Leake County Revelers)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Sep 09 - 02:16 AM

I learned from Tom Paley a Lynchburg version, which he called Goin'·Down·Town, whose first verse was 'I went Down to town To get me a bottle of wine. They hitched me to the whipping-post And give me 49. Goin' down town [2] I'm goin' down to Lynchburg Town, Gonna carry my tobacky down.' Second verse: 'I went back to town To get me a drink of gin. They hitched me back to the whipping-post And give me hell agin'. Then any of the usual this·sort·of·song floaters, incl old hat, possum/racoon, girl-on-shelf, needle&thread/up the road &c; concluding 'Times is gettin' hard boys, Money's gettin' scarce. Just pay me for my tobacky boys, I'm a-goin' to leave this place'. The first two, 'whipping-post' verses bring the version in with a swing, & do not appear to be quoted in any of the versions noted above on this thread.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Hat (Leake County Revelers)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Sep 09 - 02:21 AM

In fact, I find by searching, a similar version, Lomax Ky 1937, appears on DT as Lynchburg Town, with the 'whipping post' verses at the end.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Old Hat (Leake County Revelers)
From: Peter M
Date: 06 Sep 09 - 08:44 PM

Yes, this is a hard one! Here's my current interpretation:

The Old Hat
as recorded by the Leake County Revelers

When you hear your cow a-lowing
You know it's milking time
Move back your leg old Jersey
And let your milk come down

        (Chorus)
        Gwine on down to town
        Gwine on down to town
        I'm goin' on down to Vicksburg town
        To make my banjo sound

I went up to Shoofly's house
Shoofly wasn't at home
I ate all of Shoofly's meat
And I left Shoofly the bone

The Devil stole a pumpkin
And he rolled it away to town
And the Good Lord happened to see him
And he throwed his pumpkin down

Raccoon up a simmon tree
Possum on the ground
And the possum said to the raccoon
You should shake some simmons down

Raccoon on the mainline
Possum on the switch
But the rabbit ain't no railroad man
But he's a running son of a gun


Peter


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate
  Share Thread:
More...

Reply to Thread
Subject:  Help
From:
Preview   Automatic Linebreaks   Make a link ("blue clicky")


Mudcat time: 20 April 2:55 PM EDT

[ Home ]

All original material is copyright © 1998 by the Mudcat Café Music Foundation, Inc. All photos, music, images, etc. are copyright © by their rightful owners. Every effort is taken to attribute appropriate copyright to images, content, music, etc. We are not a copyright resource.