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So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?

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Subject: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 01:11 PM

There has recently been a spate of "country" music specials on TV that haven't been on PBS. IMNSHO, you can take Faith Hill and Tim McGraw and ____________ (fill in the blank with your preferred act of violence).

But the Dixie Chicks last night were (again, IMNSHO) great (and I don't just mean great lookin'). I was suitably impressed, this having been the only time I've seen them perform live, with their musical chops, and the fact that the back-up orchestra (yes, orchestra) songs worked really well. Usually such endeavors are awful.

Anyone else catch them? And what did you think? And does anyone know if it is it true that the controversy surrounding their song about killing Earl was banned from some radio stations?


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Kim C
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 01:20 PM

I did not see them, but I like them fairly well. They are very good at what they do.

Goodbye Earl was eschewed by several radio stations because some people felt that it promoted violence... although, there was never any hoopla about Garth Brooks' Mama's in the Graveyard, Papa's in the Pen, in which Papa drives his 18-wheeler smack into the hotel and kills Mama and her lover. Personally, I didn't think Goodbye Earl was really that great of a song to begin with.

I do like their version of Landslide, though.


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 01:24 PM

You know, that version of Landslide must be reaching the status of a classic. Everyone I talk to says they like/love it.

As to Goodbye Earl, you are dead right about the male/female double standard. A very good (male) friend of mine claims Goodbye Earl isn't about violence, it's a song about celebrating the power of the sisterhood to end it!


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 01:26 PM

Was that the DC show where they had James Taylor as guest for a bit??

If so, I caught one little bit of it, and it was pretty cool...


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Kim C
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 01:26 PM

Well, I mean, Goodbye Earl is really Fried Green Tomatoes condensed to 3.5 minutes...


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Raptor
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 01:28 PM

I saw them with James Taylor one night and on thier own the next night and was BLOWN AWAY! they are harmonicaly perfect and quie good on thier respective instraments WOW.

Not to mention thier band!

I'm not a country fan but they are great!

Raptor


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 01:40 PM

Here is a preview for it, and some interesting background on their new CD it is promoting, called "Home":

http://www.post-gazette.com/tv/20021209dixie1209fnp5.asp


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 01:47 PM

If you want to go back further than Fried Green Tomatoes, Earl is basically the plot of the ballad Lord Thomas & Lady Margaret.


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Kim C
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 01:59 PM

Haha! The Folk Process at Work!!!!!

Is Lord Thomas the one who got laid on the green? Aw heck, you know what I mean!


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 02:03 PM

Well, the Dixie Chicks like promoting themselves as "anti-Nashville pop-country". They have their roots in rock and country, with a heavier emphasis musically on the bluegrass side, and presentation/style wise on the rock side. I also like them because they wear clothes, and ain't shakin' their booties at us in their videos.


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 02:14 PM

I saw the special with James Taylor, and only wish they'd done a CD from it. I think that the group is enormously gifted, and they fit with James Taylor like they'd been singing together for years. Pretty straightforward folks, too, with a good sense of who they are and what they want to do with their music. Usually, cover songs can't match the original, but I think their recording of Landslide
it even better than the original.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: pattyClink
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 02:15 PM

I love the Chicks but I wish they'da left Landslide alone. Some things are not improved by a whanging banjo.


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Sorcha
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 02:32 PM

Maybe they have changed since I saw them years ago in Winfield. I did NOT like them then,and you could hardly call what they wore "clothes". Mini skirts that didn't cover their bums and fishnet hose..............I'll have to give them another chance, I guess.


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 02:35 PM

No offense intended pattyClink, as you are possibly a Stevie Nicks fan (I'm not). But the reason I love the Landslide version of the Chicks is because it seems like a totally different song to me. I remember the original by Stevie Nicks as being maudlin and mediocre pop. To my ears, that whanging banjo was a tremendous improvement to what had been for me a long forgotten, forgettable song.


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Raptor
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 02:37 PM

The James Taylor show was called Crossroads. And they mix Players. The night before they had Travis Tritt And Ray Charles it was very Good too!

Raptor


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 02:42 PM

Sorcha, now I think we need to define "clothes" here. :) By saying they wear clothes, I'm not saying they don't wear sexy clothes. They do. I just consider it to be an improvement to performing in the undies, as say...Christina and Britney and Mariah and JLo and any number of Hip Hop Ho Divas do these days.

Personally, I think their fashion style is great--kinda hippie white trash hoochie mama kinda style.


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 02:47 PM

"Mini skirts that didn't cover their bums and fishnet hose"

Cool!

That's the best!

Hot chicks making killer cool music! It just doesn't get any better than that...

I remember one of the DC (The 'front' chick? What's her name???) being on an episode of Trading Spaces not too long ago... Man oh man, what -I'd- like to do with her in her bedroom!

LOL

What is it that folkies have against sexy?!?!?!

I suspect it's "The Green Monster"


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Matt_R
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 03:23 PM

I'd rather catch an STD.


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 03:27 PM

Except that'd mean you'd have to have sex Matt R...

And what are the odds of that eh?


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 03:32 PM

So, the title of last night's NBC special was "An Evening With the Dixie Chicks" and, according to this Columbia Records website:

http://www.columbiarecords.com/dixiechicks/flyaways/

"Look for the DVD release of "An Evening With The Dixie Chicks" in stores on Tuesday February 2nd, 2003! The DVD features seven additional songs not aired on the original NBC special!"

The above website has an email list to get on for notification of pre-sale of the DVD. I'd say it is definitely worth it. The production values of the program were top notch (I remember at one point thinking to myself I even was enjoying the lighting design), and the performance was too.

Do I understand this right--MattR would like to contract a STD from the Dixie Chicks?


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 03:34 PM

That's doub'ly less likely, isn't it Guest!?!

LOL


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Wesley S
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 03:52 PM

Did anyone else hear Emmylou Harris's prerecorded voice at the end of one of the songs ? So it wasn't entirely live. Overall it was a good show - it makes me wonder why they had to play around with pre-recorded parts.


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 03:55 PM

Lots of "live" performances now use pre-recorded tracks. Even some non-luddite folkies do it!


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: beadie
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 03:59 PM

Kim:
      You're partly right, it IS "Fried Green Tomatoes," but without the barbeque.


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 04:08 PM

Secret's in the sauce!


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Kim C
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 04:12 PM

Yep. It's hog-boilin' time.


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Morticia
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 04:14 PM

The Earl of Murray was laid upon the green....perhaps he also caught a nasty dose of Dixie Chicks? Actually, I like them and I'm not a big country fan or even a country fan but they are slick and professional at least.


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 04:21 PM

Yes, they are slick and professional, but I think they would also be great to see in an unplugged sort of setting. Wouldn't it be great if they would play some folk festival type gigs?


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: YOR
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 05:27 PM

I caught most of the Dixie Chicks concert on TV last night and I really liked it. True musicians!

The belly button special pop artists are OK, just turn the sound off and put Bob Seger or Pink Floyd in the CD player.

Enjoy, Roy


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 06:21 PM

the point is, the 'act' is about 3 cute girls...not the music. They play pretty well, if you are into pop/country, and if I was blind, I might be able to give an unbiased opinion. But they base their appeal on being sexy ladies, and only secondarily on the music, and that would always be a problem.

(I can find girls just as good looking, wearing less clothes, and NOT distracting me with banjos on the WWW anytime!*grin*_


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 06:38 PM

BillD, I think your preconceived notions and personal prejudices may be standing in the way of you enjoying these musicians. They are musicians first, not a packaged set of bimbos. It is, IMO, a pretty sexist interpretation to be dismissive of these musicians because they are "sexy ladies".

They are professional performers, and on stage, they dress like female professional performers of their era. As performers, they aren't doing anything that Emmylou or June Tabor or Allison Kraus or Eliza Carthy or Sharon Shannon or any other female performer wouldn't do, yet we don't see people dismissing because them because "well they are pretty sexy, but can they play/sing?" The Dixie Chicks phenomenon isn't about the looks of these girls. They just know that their looks are part of the bargain of the business they are in.

These three women have worked very hard to come up the ranks. They are accomplished musicians. And what I think the Dixie Chicks phenomenon is about is the uplifting and transcendant spirit to their music that is rare in any genre of music, by musicians of any age. Part of that spirit is the edginess and sassiness, but some of it goes much deeper than that. They are musically fresh, infectious, and compelling.

Some female performers, just like some male performers, do deserve to be dismissed as pretty packages. But the Dixie Chicks, IMO, don't fall even close to the line of being in that category.


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 06:55 PM

At least we agree on something, Bill.

--Matt


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: GUEST,Phil Cooper, not able to reset cookie at mom
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 11:36 PM

KimC, The version of Lord Thomas and Lady Margaret that we do has Lord T chasing lady m through the woods with his hounds. Years later, she gives him poison wine and reminds him of what a jerk he was, but that she was going to bury him after he died.


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: John Hardly
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 11:38 PM

I thought it was a truly enjoyable evening of well played music. I do think the Chicks themselves show fine musicianship and the added bonus treat that I didn't see anyone making note of...

Man! That was Adam Steffey and Brian Sutton tearing up on mando and guitar (respectively).

In my estimation Adam plays with the finest tone of any mando player recording today. He was with Union Station for about five CDs and it is his wonderful intro to "I've Got That Old Feeling" that makes it such a charming recording.

Sutton is the young gun introduced a few years back as the guitarist-on-fire in Kentucky Thunder -- Ricky Skaggs' bluegrass band. He has since gone on to be the guitar in the new Dolly Parton bluegrass CDs as well as guesting on CD gems such as those by Aubrey Haynie and touring with the Bela Fleck's "Bluegrass Sessions" band when Tony Rice fell ill.


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Subject: RE: So who caught the Dixie Chicks on TV?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 11:49 PM

"the 'act' is about 3 cute girls"

I think yer missing the point...


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