Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: clansfolk
Date: 22 Jan 03 - 05:44 AM

Gordon Marsden MP - Blackpool South still hasn't signed - 3 faxes sent - today a proforma reply with the extract from Hansards attached (dated 17th Dec 2002) quoting the good Doctors assurances that he would look at the proposals and how they affect Religious bodies - nothing refering to comments I had made about traditional music and dance!

- Gordon won't get away that easy! new letter being drafted complimenting him on what's he's done so far but quoting Kim's Komments (sic) since that date and his admittance that most forms of traditional music and dance will be affected - and asking again for Mr Marsden to sign 331 - In Blackpool which I have seen change over the last 50+ years from a family resort - to a Pub Town - I feel that Tradition is being a sacrifice for 24hr drinking.

Morris on.................... The Barman

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Jan 03 - 06:26 AM

105 now.

We really must try and inform our MP's of the real implications contained in the detail of the Bill.

One way of doing this is to ask very specific questions on the effect aspects of the Bill and to make sure that your MP supplies you with a specific and satisfactory answer. And to keep on and on until they do.

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: Pied Piper
Date: 22 Jan 03 - 06:46 AM

There are 150 Labour MPs that cannot? (or will not) sign EDMs and vote against the government.
I don't no if this is a legal thing but somebody told me that if you get a "bag carrying" job in a Ministry (like my MP Ian Stewart) you get an extra 50 grand expenses.
PP

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Jan 03 - 02:23 PM

The EDM was started by the official opposition but signing it is not a vote against the government, but I see what you mean. It could and will be seen by some be seen as supporting the opposition.

But as nearly 50,000 of us voters have signed up to the wording and sentiments of this EDM, any MP who does not sign for the reasons that he may be unpopular with the 'whips' does rather risk being unpopular with those whose vote they may soon badly need.

The EDM is just a device to raise the profile of an issue but the E petition has rather done this. So it is less important to have the amount of MP's names as was on the last one, but it is vital that we keep on informing them, not only of our concerns for the Bill but also of the risk they face if they are not seen to be reflecting this popular concern. They will wish to be seen as being on the winning side.

I like to think that whatever happens now, that in the future we are not going to allow the things we hold dear to be treated as badly as we have been prepared to let them be treated in the past.

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Jan 03 - 02:28 PM

The signs are quite good, how many of us have written to their MP before?

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: The Shambles
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 01:52 AM

The MU's and the lawyers position and the full DCMS reply can be found via the following link to Graham Dixon's petition site.

http://pub22.bravenet.com/forum/fetch.php?id=9982048&usernum=1824620545

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Jan 03 - 06:50 PM

http://edm.ais.co.uk/weblink/html/motion.html/ref=465

The above link to EDM 465, one worded specifically for concerns for jazz, will show quite a different party grouping among its supporting 73 MPs.

Perhaps more of our spineless Labour MPs will be prepared to sign up this one?

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Jan 03 - 01:26 PM

111 MP's names on EDM 331.

56,978 voter's names on th E petition.

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: The Shambles
Date: 31 Jan 03 - 09:02 AM

126 MPs

62,662 voters on the petition.

http://edm.ais.co.uk/weblink/html/motion.html/ref=331

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: The Shambles
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 07:16 AM

136 MPs

Over 71,000 on the petition.

Time for some more letters to our MPs?

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: The Shambles
Date: 16 Feb 03 - 05:17 PM

The following from Hamish Birchall

Another website has downloadable copies of the Performer-Lawyer group analysis and rebuttal of the latest DCMS spin about the Licensing Bill (MS Word and PDF files):
http://www.adac-records.co.uk/licensing-bill/kim-howells/

This is the direct link for the Performer-Lawyer group's analysis in MS Word format:
http://www.adac-records.co.uk/licensing-bill/kim-howells/McLetPLG009.doc

Many backbench Labour MPs have uncritically accepted the latest soothing words from Howells and the DCMS. The Performer-Lawyer response is the antidote. It is essential reading for those who wish to maintain pressure on MPs.

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Feb 03 - 02:35 PM

142 MP's names.

75,614 signatures on the petition.

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: The Shambles
Date: 28 Feb 03 - 11:32 AM

For the answers to the 20 myths of Dr Howells, see the following thread.

MP's repies to your Emails

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: The Shambles
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 06:06 AM

151 MP's names. See if your MP's name is there yet.

http://edm.ais.co.uk/weblink/html/motion.html/ref=331

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: John J
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 01:09 PM

I'm delighted that my MP (Graham Brady, con) is supporting our cause.

He has written to me twice now, and is clearly not just paying lip service to this matter.

John

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: The Shambles
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 07:34 AM

153 MP's names now.

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Mar 03 - 06:01 AM

154 MPs have now signed, but like us all - they will probably have other things on their minds at the moment.

Sadly however, the Bill still marches on and today Monday 24 March will go to the House of Commons. We are only going to get this one chance, so despite the bad timing, we are going to have to go all-out and make the most of it.

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: The Shambles
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 05:53 AM

The full 24 March debate in Hansard, on the following site.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200203/cmhansrd/cm030324/debtext/30324-14.htm#30324-14_head0

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Mar 03 - 02:17 AM

I have written at length to all the committee MPs and the Joint Committe on Human Rights.

I don't know if it'll get put up on does4you.

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: Mr Happy
Date: 04 May 06 - 08:09 PM

Early Day Motions aren't actually debated in the chamber - they're simply a way for MPs to make written statements on any subject they feel to be significant. "Nothing comes of them, but they're an important barometer of what's going on in the country," says Bob [Russell: Lib Dem MP for Colchester, See here: http://www.thedonkey.org/Lines/MP_Colchester.html].

http://www.thedonkey.org/Lines/MP_Colchester.html].



"They draw the attention of our elected representatives to matters of interest and concern.


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So this means:

·        All our efforts in diverse ways were for naught?
·        There's NO DEMOCRACY! In our country?
·        We must continue to be OFFENDERS???

Subject: RE: Common's Early Day Motion 331 (new)(PEL)
From: Mr Happy
Date: 04 May 06 - 08:36 PM

"They draw the attention of our elected representatives to matters of interest and concern.

[& Then they instantly forget all about these matters? & aren쳌ft compelled to act ion these issues further?]

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