BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)

Subject: BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 17 Dec 02 - 05:02 PM

This (click) says it all for me.

Subject: RE: BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 17 Dec 02 - 05:14 PM

I don't really see how the 'difficulties' they are having now are any different from the day to day norm that has been going on since America started...

Seems to me the well oiled machine that is The United States Of America is chugging along just as it always has...

Subject: RE: BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)
From: Amos
Date: 17 Dec 02 - 05:17 PM

I think that link is hilarious -- I got it by email last week. Clinton, the cognitive dissonance is explicitly pointed out in the clip. You're just being obstreperous, right??

A

Subject: RE: BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Dec 02 - 05:27 PM

Cognitive dissonance? Isn't that democracy?

Subject: RE: BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 17 Dec 02 - 05:28 PM

obstreperous?? Me???? Often ya, absolutely...

but not in this case...

Subject: RE: BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)
From: Cluin
Date: 17 Dec 02 - 05:35 PM

*reaching for Mr. Webster*

Co.. cog.. cognitive... hmm. bzzzz.. bzzz... wait, cognition: awareness... lalalala.. okay.

now, dis... diss... dissonance, ah here it is.. discordant, harsh... bzzz bzzz... yeah

Okay, ob.. obs... obst... obstinate, obstreperous!... noisy, clamorous... pshew!

Shit! Ain't "Obstreperous" your middle name, Clint?

Subject: RE: BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 17 Dec 02 - 05:42 PM

Heh... it was gonna be, but they couldn't fit it on the birth certificate

Now it's sorta more like a nick name...

Obstreperous Hammond... God Emperor Of Geeks...

Rolls right off the tongue doesn't it....

,-)

Subject: RE: BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)
From: Cluin
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 12:28 AM

Yeh, like vomit. *grin*

What IS that up there? An Odin smiley?

Subject: RE: BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)
From: michaelr
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 02:14 AM

Well, that little movie is sort of funny, in a serious way.

MoveOn.org, however, and the folks behind it, are dead serious. They are committed activists who are ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING about the things most of us here just fret about.

If any of you have asked yourselves recently : "Dang, sure looks screwy the way things are going in my country... but what can I do about it?" -- these guys have an answer to yor question.

Check it out!

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 03:55 AM

I agree, Michael! Thanks, Animaterra. I hadn't seen this one! Excellent!

Subject: RE: BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 05:47 PM

"Well, that little movie is sort of funny,"...wouldn't know, I see nothing!...but clicking "view source" shows me that they use MacroMedia Shockwave, and make NO effort to tell people what happens of why.

I DO NOT LIKE Shockwave, or sites that require it...especially when they don't bother to explain that the link is useless without it..

Subject: RE: BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 06:02 PM

Ya... I know, bill... I wish the whole internet was hand tailored to me, my exact sytem specs, and my preferences as well...

Subject: RE: BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)
From: Cluin
Date: 18 Dec 02 - 08:10 PM

Ah, c'mon, man. He's just expressing an opinion.

Like I don't happen to like pop-up ads and having to close two or three extra windows with every webpage I surf to, or have to be careful where I click in case a pop-up appears below my pointer an instant before and I end up in some sort of disreputable commercial back alley of the Net. Or having to keep on telling sites that NO! I don't want to install Gator or Xupiter or any other spyware or change my default homepage on my browser just because I happen to surf to a particular webpage while looking for some piece of information.

But I've got no problems with Shockwave. In fact I think it's great and adds a lot to the Internet. The presentations look great (providing your processor is fast enough) and file sizes are usually pretty manageable. I only wish I could afford Macromedia Director so I could make some of my own.

Speaking of which... seen this site yet? stonetrek.com

*warning... needs Flash*

Subject: RE: BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Dec 02 - 10:20 AM

Cluin, try a freeware pop-up killer, they work pretty well.

For people with an interest in organizations like MoveOn.org, The Nation website has a brief synopsis of several organizations' mission, their plans/tactics, and contact information, including clickable links here:

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030106&s=interns

Then, the page link below at The Nation has clickable links to all of their No War With Iraq articles, and the most exhaustive list of clickable links to anti-war organizations I've seen on the web so far:

http://www.thenation.com/directory/view.mhtml?t=040307

Subject: RE: BS: Technical Difficulties (with USA)
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Dec 02 - 11:53 AM

there are many forms of solutions to the javascript/pop-up/cookie problem....one of which is to use a browser with built in help. One of these is Phoenix Browser, an offshoot of the Mozilla project. (Of course, you have to USE the settings and read a bit to tailor it to your needs!)

(It is fine if you "prefer" to have Shockwave installed & working...my complaint is with those who just assume that everyone will blindly accept whatever is installed/suggested, and thus offer no explanation of why the page you click on does nothing!)
....Microsoft's "Active-X" is another case...they get lots of people to write for it, but sort of sidestep the issue that it ONLY works with Internet Explorer. This is simply one more link in their push to herd all the sheep into THEIR corral and control all the product, access, security, privacy aspects of the WWW/internet.

If you think I am being paranoid and excessively critical, you should see me trying to work out the switch to broadband access! I was looking at Comcast cable and doing searches on stuff ...and came upon several comments that say that Comcast requires you to use Outlook Express for email!!! Right!..and if I had signed up without knowing this, what would I do with my Eudora program? Or Pegasus?.....

anyway, I shall be contacting Comcast to double-check this and looking at DSL and other possibilities before I dig myself into a hole I can't climb out of.