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Broonzy's 'horses singing' proven true!!

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Subject: http://laacz.lv/f/swf/hestekor.swf
From: Art Thieme
Date: 28 Dec 02 - 10:05 PM

HER IS REAL PROOF!!!

To hear Big Bill Broonzy's "horses singin'" click below:

http://laacz.lv/f/swf/hestekor.swf

I do hope I made the blue clicky correctly.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: http://laacz.lv/f/swf/hestekor.swf
From: Art Thieme
Date: 28 Dec 02 - 10:07 PM

Well, I screwed up. Sorry. Try it anyway.

Art


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Subject: RE: http://laacz.lv/f/swf/hestekor.swf
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Dec 02 - 12:30 PM

Art,

Here is your link

I have pop up ads blocked on my computer so I only see these characters blinking at me. Some files won't load unless I turn off the ad (Java script) blocker. Or does the music take a while to load? Perhaps I'm too impatient.

SRS


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Subject: RE: http://laacz.lv/f/swf/hestekor.swf
From: Musicman
Date: 29 Dec 02 - 12:33 PM

that's great Art!!!   lol

(gotta click on the horses to make em sing!)


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Subject: RE: http://laacz.lv/f/swf/hestekor.swf
From: Allan C.
Date: 29 Dec 02 - 12:57 PM

Thanks, Musicman! I woulda sat here for quite a while waiting for the music to load while watching a bunch of horses blink at one another had you not said something.

Thanks, Art.


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Subject: RE: http://laacz.lv/f/swf/hestekor.swf
From: Ed.
Date: 29 Dec 02 - 01:15 PM

Took me a minute to work out what to do, too.

Could Joe or a clone change the thread title, please. It's not exactly obvious...

And thanks Art, I enjoyed it.


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Subject: RE: http://laacz.lv/f/swf/hestekor.swf
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Dec 02 - 01:21 PM

Lovely. I was hoping the others would join in and sing harmony.

Some horses are better singers than the people who ride them.


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Subject: RE: http://laacz.lv/f/swf/hestekor.swf
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 04:48 AM

The three on the right do a nice harmony. I'm not too sure about the rythm from the one on the left. It sort of changes the whole character of the thing when you flip him off.

John


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Subject: RE: http://laacz.lv/f/swf/hestekor.swf
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 06:08 AM

It seems that each horse re-starts if you click him off and back on. So any harmony depends on where (in their individual parts) each horse is.

Nigel


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: CapriUni
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 08:06 AM

So, Nigel, what order do you consider best for bringing the horses in on their parts, say, numbering them 1 through 4, left to right?

And who's Broonzy? And what was his claim about horses singin'?


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: Noreen
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 09:20 AM

Wonderful, Art!
Managed to get the horses before the mudcat went down yesterday, and used the down time to work out several new compositions.
Now looking for boookings....

N
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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 12:10 PM

Here's a little background on Broonzy, but Art will have to come tell you about the horses singing, CU.*bg*

kat


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: CapriUni
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 12:45 PM

Thanks, Kat! Wonderful page!


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: Amos
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 02:18 PM

Man. those horses oughta go public!! LOL!!

A


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: Abby Sale
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 03:01 PM

Lovely. I feel it's important to fully research these things and appreciate great trouble Art must have gone to to capture these live images on tape.

John: Why would anyone flip off a horse? I don't think that's very polite.


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 03:08 PM

well!! LOLOLOL...at least is was not a recognizable 'folk' song they were doing! That leaves a purple cow as about the only thing I have haven't seen yet....oh....wait.....look, coming over the horizon! pretty scary! now if IT sings....


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 03:10 PM

well...I guess we are safe...purple cows only dance


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 03:26 PM

It's catching on, though, Bill. Check it out: sheep, kiwis, and dolphins dance down under!


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: open mike
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 04:04 PM

where so you think those horses are from?
iceland? finland? here is the message i got
when i tried to find the source...
Tev nav tiesību piekļūt tam, kam tu vēlies piekļūt.
somethin like you are forbidden to go there...


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: Noreen
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 04:48 PM

Latvia, Laurel.


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: Noreen
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 04:54 PM

:0)
I just thought that sounded good....

I could let on that I knew the lv. designation was for Latvia, but I only learned that by going far enough back to get to the english language version of the base page:
http://laacz.lv/eng/


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: Noreen
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 05:00 PM

On reading his English language page explaining himself and his site, I think I'll write to him & tell him about Mudcat- looks like he'd fit right in here!

Art, where did you get the link from originally?


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 07:36 PM

Hi folks,

It was BIG BILL BROONZY who was the original source for the oft misquoted and mis-attributed line about all songs being folksongs because, "Hell, I ain't never heard no horses singing !!"

The man himself, BIG BILL BROONZY, was very important to us in Chicago. I only heard him one time though. After recording behind many, many, many blues singers to "fill out" their recorded sound, his guitar wizardry was recognized as, simply, the best. His blues were unique and perfect. His chords were created on the spot by him and truly did smack of jazz in their harmonic complexity. When he got into the emerging folk scene in Chicago, Bill explored that new way to augment his income by adding songs like "The Crawdad Song", "John Henry", "The Glory Of Love", "Frog Went a-Courting" and others. Bill wound up living his last years in Chicago where he worked as a janitor for (I think) The Chicago Public Schools. Check out Bill's "Mopper's Blues" which was about his daily chores. Bill Broonzy was very much appreciated by the early folkies like Win Stracke, Frank Hamilton, Dawn and Nate Greening and Gert Soltker --- all founders of the Old Town School Of FOLK MUSIC. Studs Terkel made him a part of his early TV show called Studs Place, and the two of them (Studs and Bill) made several albums from interview shows hosted by Mr. Terkel on his daily radio programs broadcast over WFMT-FM in Chicago. Several LPs of those shows were issued on Folkways Records. VERVE RECORDS issued a SEVEN album boxed set of Bill and Studs talking and drinking (and Bill singing). Later, these were issued as single albums without the talk---just Bill's songs.

Studs and Frank Hamilton are still going.

That's why all this about "horses singing". Now we have proof of some sort. As Pete used to say, "There're lies, damned lies and statistics. That's what makes "HORSE" races !"

Always seems to come back to them horses, don't it ???

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 07:47 PM

Oh, you wanted to know where I found this site. I can't say really but... I think it was either from Mark Ross or Ron Miles or Bob Bovee or Warren Leming or Bruce Brackney or Tom Paley----good union men all. Could be wrong though.

Art


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 30 Dec 02 - 07:56 PM

I guess no one has heard a stallion when a ready mare is within smelling distance. Horse language and action guaranteed!


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 31 Dec 02 - 03:36 PM

The 3 on the right really can do great harmony. The left one can almost do it right. Tonight they will be singing Old Lange Syne !!! A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL!!!!!!!

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: CapriUni
Date: 31 Dec 02 - 06:13 PM

I guess no one has heard a stallion when a ready mare is within smelling distance.

Rightio! And how many blues (and folk) singers compose songs about the good love of a hard woman, and the hard love of a good woman, and not getting love from the woman you want....

Am I remembering this or making it up on the spot:

Did someone once say that all songs are love songs?


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 31 Dec 02 - 06:21 PM

Now if somebody wants to dedicate a sie to Horse Songs, we can bury this.


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 31 Dec 02 - 06:22 PM

Art, That's a hoot!!


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 31 Dec 02 - 07:35 PM

Horses can write as well as sing! Read the remarkable "A Horse's Letter to Ex-Police Constable 365 John Pegg- to be posted soon, especially for Dick Greenhaus.


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's "horses singin'" proven true!!
From: Richie
Date: 01 Jan 03 - 09:27 AM

Funny, I always call the song "A Horse with No Name"--"Mister Ed"

-Richie


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Subject: RE: Purple Cow
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 01 Jan 03 - 03:51 PM

Just for the sake of cross-referencing:

Gelett Burgess: American Humorist 1866-1951

THE PURPLE COW

I never saw a Purple Cow,
I never hope to see one;
But I can tell you, anyhow,
I'd rather see than be one.


SEQUEL TO THE PURPLE COW

Ah, Yes! I wrote the 'Purple Cow'—
I'm Sorry, now, I wrote it!
But I can Tell you Anyhow,
I'll Kill you if you Quote it.


Nigel


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's 'horses singing' proven true!!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 09 Sep 03 - 05:49 PM

refish


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's 'horses singing' proven true!!
From: Forsh
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 05:48 AM

I CANT GET SOUND! HELP!


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's 'horses singing' proven true!!
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 11:21 AM

you have to click on each horse individually for sound....left to right is best


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's 'horses singing' proven true!!
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 11:30 AM

Q! Did you ever post "A Horse's Letter to Ex-Police Constable 365 John Pegg"?


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's 'horses singing' proven true!!
From: Forsh
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 12:08 PM

IT's no good, (sob) I click and I click and them damn horses just move their mouths at me, they're driving me mad, I tell you MAD!


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's 'horses singing' proven true!!
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 12:20 PM

forsh - is your sound turned on?


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's 'horses singing' proven true!!
From: Forsh
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 12:30 PM

Yes, I have sound, at least I have just played an MP3! Maby there's a tech tip? am I missing something? (careful now! :o) )


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's 'horses singing' proven true!!
From: Chief Chaos
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 04:44 PM

Well now at least I know who George Harrison was referring to on the "Its all Right" track from Cloud Nine. Never did understand before and hadn't bothered to look it up.


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's 'horses singing' proven true!!
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 05:30 PM

Tsk, Forsh... .swf is a "Shockwave Flash" file, it may depend on you having the latest version of that installed, or on having javascript turned on...I just mess around until things work. (I seem to remember having to tweak something to get it working)


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's 'horses singing' proven true!!
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 05:38 PM

I searched a bit and found lots of technical mumbo-jumbo about Flash animations... this may be the clearest I read.

http://www.lynn3686.freeserve.co.uk/swfvivo.html

I'll confess, all I do is check to see if things work, and if not, I reinstall what they tell me.


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Subject: RE: Broonzy's 'horses singing' proven true!!
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 05:52 PM

Forsh...it is just barely possible that your browser has not been told the proper file association it should call to run swf files.

Somewhere in the menus at the top there should be a long list of "file types" and one should say "application x-shockwave-flash" with extension .swf...and there should be a way to read & edit what program should run it. That's the only guess I have....


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