Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafesj

Post to this Thread - Sort Descending - Printer Friendly - Home


BS: A Question for the Irish

GUEST,Gern 04 Jan 03 - 03:42 PM
McGrath of Harlow 04 Jan 03 - 03:46 PM
belfast 04 Jan 03 - 03:54 PM
GUEST 04 Jan 03 - 04:11 PM
McGrath of Harlow 04 Jan 03 - 05:45 PM
Tyghress 04 Jan 03 - 06:22 PM
boglion 04 Jan 03 - 07:09 PM
GUEST 04 Jan 03 - 07:47 PM
GUEST,sorefingers 04 Jan 03 - 10:44 PM
JennyO 04 Jan 03 - 11:40 PM
Hillheader 05 Jan 03 - 04:27 AM
Fiolar 05 Jan 03 - 05:53 AM
GUEST,paddymac 05 Jan 03 - 10:26 AM
GUEST,Gern 05 Jan 03 - 11:06 AM
DougR 05 Jan 03 - 05:34 PM
maire-aine 05 Jan 03 - 05:45 PM
McGrath of Harlow 05 Jan 03 - 05:53 PM
Cluin 05 Jan 03 - 06:46 PM
Strupag 05 Jan 03 - 07:32 PM
Bev and Jerry 05 Jan 03 - 08:23 PM
McGrath of Harlow 05 Jan 03 - 08:38 PM
Cluin 05 Jan 03 - 08:39 PM
DougR 06 Jan 03 - 12:20 AM
Warsaw Ed 06 Jan 03 - 01:08 AM
alison 06 Jan 03 - 01:20 AM
Songsmith 06 Jan 03 - 01:46 AM
greg stephens 06 Jan 03 - 05:33 AM
Declan 06 Jan 03 - 05:36 AM
DougR 06 Jan 03 - 12:28 PM
GUEST,Gern 06 Jan 03 - 01:22 PM
Big Tim 06 Jan 03 - 03:28 PM
Cluin 06 Jan 03 - 03:35 PM
An Pluiméir Ceolmhar 06 Jan 03 - 03:35 PM
GUEST 06 Jan 03 - 04:05 PM
GUEST,sorefingers 06 Jan 03 - 06:43 PM
McGrath of Harlow 06 Jan 03 - 07:29 PM
GUEST,autopilot 06 Jan 03 - 07:33 PM
Cluin 06 Jan 03 - 07:37 PM
GUEST,Gern 07 Jan 03 - 12:12 PM

Share Thread
more
Lyrics & Knowledge Search [Advanced]
DT  Forum
Sort (Forum) by:relevance date
DT Lyrics:







Subject: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: GUEST,Gern
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 03:42 PM

I live in Florida and will only have one chance to visit Ireland, next winter. As tacky and touristy as this sounds, I'm looking for suggestions. What parts of your culture and country do you enjoy sharing with visitors? What other destinations attract far more tourists than is warranted? We have rather predictable interests, as you might imagine: music, pubs, seascapes and so on. Any suggestions, warnings or other input?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 03:46 PM

Maybe it gets a bit too crowded in Killarney at times.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: belfast
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 03:54 PM

At the risk of sounding chauvinstic, there isn't a single bit of the island that I wouldn't recommend. (Well, I wouldn't recommend Dublin's Temple Bar unless you enjoy the company of foulmouthed drunken adolescents but thaat might be a generation thing.)

Mind you, I could equally recommend the little island on the other side of the Irish Sea. It also has its delights.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 04:11 PM

Gern, when will you be going? It is easier to offer suggestions if we know the dates. My niece will be travelling over there in February, and I'm currently sending her a lot of information.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 05:45 PM

But, if you aren't going to take in a side trip to England, it'd be good if you could write to the English Tourist Board and say you're going to Ireland instead because you want to get some music in without worrying about the restrictions in England. Every little helps.

This is a page with lots of links to find out what's happening where and when in Ireland. But if you just follow your nose and ask you'll find good music most places.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: Tyghress
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 06:22 PM

I've found some wonderful music from Clare up to Sligo, and the west is beautiful! Drop me a note (Tyghress@aol.com) and I'll talk about my last trips and where we found music. This coming trip we're planning for Milltown Malbay for three sessions...I mean nights... then back up to Sligo and music there and in Roscommon.

Up in Donegal in May there is a festival...Bord Failt'e will give info on that and the other festivals like Willie Week.

We avoid the tourist bus stops in general, but find plenty in the way of megaliths, tombs, round towers and cosy pubs just by driving around and taking the most likely roads.

Enjoy, have fun, and don't plan too much!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: boglion
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 07:09 PM

I always bang on about my little corner of County Kerry - the Dingle Peninsula...I live in London but get over there as often as I can. It's the most westerly point in Europe and is blissful. Check out www.dodingle.com and don't miss the two small villages to the north of Dingle - Cloghane and Brandon. They are unspoilt "Real" Ireland. A mate of mine runs a guesthouse in Cloghane - www.cloghane.com.

All of the West coast is great fun.

Have a great time.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 07:47 PM

Don't go to Belfast at Easter because the place shuts down.

And if you were going to England don't go to Blackpool at New year because that also shuts down.

However go to Dublin it's a great place open at Easter, a bit exspenive but good.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 10:44 PM

Every one says it, but not loud enough; if it's the music you are looking for then the winter is the best time to go, since all the farm work slacks off and folks are indoors a lot of the time.

Second about the sea I know absolutely zero, but as one poster already
hinted you'd get a great combination of both music and sea in the Dingle area; morover here you are very close to the Sliabh Luchra tradition which is much praised by Irish musicians.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: JennyO
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 11:40 PM

I visited Ireland last year with some members of my choir, and my pick of the places, which has music, pubs and seascapes, is Doolin. Georgeous little town! The three pubs all had sessions going when we were there in July. We stayed at an excellent B&B, called Pairc Lodge, which is just up the road, and you can also get a ferry to the Aran Islands, and it's a short drive to the Cliffs of Moher, also not to be missed. In general, we found the small towns much nicer than the big cities.

A few years ago, I was in Dublin and I hired a car and drove up Wicklow mountain. There are some magical places up there too, like Glendalough. It was winter at the time, all misty and rugged as you got to the top. As I stood at Glenmalure waterfall, I got an overwhelming sense of history - I think the ghosts of many battles had been there. Maybe even my ancestors - well I am an O'Reilly!

Jenny


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: Hillheader
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 04:27 AM

New Grange is a must-see. Built before the pyramids for God knows what!!!

Also the Dublin Tour buses are a help as you can hop on and off all day at your leisure. Trinity College hold the Book of Kells, but the college tour give some interesting background.

There will be so much information you will decide to stay for a year and still not cram it in!

Enjoy the trip.

Davebhoy


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: Fiolar
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 05:53 AM

If you are not too bothered about seeing the overhyped tourist sites, hire a car and get off the main roads. Just wander off the beaten track and avoid the major towns and cities. Then you will see the real Ireland.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: GUEST,paddymac
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 10:26 AM

If you're into sea scapes and such, "One Man Pass" in Donegal will truly take your breath away. It's definitely not on touristy routes. Located a bit west of Killybegs, then south a wee bit on a lovelaye lane, then up to a postage stamp sized car park, then on foot for the last few hundred yards. If you like the occasional knot in your stomach and tightly puckered orifice, it's just the place. It is the highest sea cliff in western Europe. Named for a tiny ledge that runs around its face, at about 1900 feet above the water. I have heard several stories of legendary characters inching their way around the cliff. I put them in the category of "stories meant to be enjoyed irrespective of literal truth." No "facilities" of any sort.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: GUEST,Gern
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 11:06 AM

A solid crop of suggestions -- just what I hoped for. GUEST, I will be going in February also, and would appreciate any information you find useful for your niece. E-mail me (fhill2@tampabay.rr.com) if that is convenient. Look forward to "doing Dingle"


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: DougR
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 05:34 PM

My SO and I plan to spend a few days (probably 3) in London then go to Ireland for a week in mid September. My SO has a timeshare here in the states and she plans to exchange for a week at a property in Connemara, Galway, Ireland. We will use that as a base and see the sights and listen to music via rental car. Anyone know this area? The property is "Renvyle Strand" in Connemara.

I'd appreciate suggestions for both London and Ireland for good music places.

DougR


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: maire-aine
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 05:45 PM

The place that impressed me most was the Cliffs of Moher. I was overwhelmed by the force of the elements as the wind and sea slammed into the coast. Imagine-- winds that blew all the way across the Atlantic, with nothing to break their force. It was Nature as you rarely get a chance to see it. If you can be there when the sun is out, don't miss it. And you'd be near the Burren, so go there, too.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 05:53 PM

It might be easier to get a short list of places in Ireland which aren't worth going to. Well, it'd be a loptbshorer than doing it the other way round.

London now, that's a different matter, when you are talking about good live music. And with the law in the pipeline it might be worse by September. Have to think about that one.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: Cluin
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 06:46 PM

I gotta throw a vote in for Doolin, The Cliffs, and the whole Burren area of West Clare. But anywhere in Ireland is definitely worth seeing/experiencing. A good suggestion above is to rent a car and get off the main drags, but beware... in west C. Clare, the roads on the maps and the roads in reality are not the same thing. Expect an adventure.

Another observation. In Northern Ireland, all roads seem to lead to Rathfriland, while in the south, it seems to be Mullingar. ;)


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: Strupag
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 07:32 PM

I'd suggest that you get a ferry over here to the Isle of Skye!

Seriously though, my favourite place over there was Westport where the mad wonderful Walsh family live.
Galway is also one of the most jumping towns I've seen. Wherever you go you will enjoy yourself and the scenery is only a part of it - It's the people that make it.

Mind you, you would also love Skye

Slainte


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: Bev and Jerry
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 08:23 PM

" in west C. Clare, the roads on the maps and the roads in reality are not the same thing"? This is true everywhere in Ireland and in Northern Ireland as well. We think their maps were originally drawn by "Monet and Co." They give you an impression of where things are but they do not let reality get in the way of a beautiful composition. We were there in May and were lost every day.

On the other hand, getting lost was the best part of the trip.

Tip #1: When asking for directions in Ireland, always ask how to get to some town and do not mention route numbers. They have heard of route numbers but they do not know what they actually are. :>)

Tip#2: If you make a reservation at a B&B or somewhere else to spend the night, you will actually have to find it. If you don't make a reservation, you can just stop when you're ready wherever you are even if you don't know where that is.

We had a great time and the Irish are the friendliest people in the world. Plan less and have more fun!

Bev and Jerry


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 08:38 PM

They have heard of route numbers but they do not know what they actually are.

Well there's one road that might not be true of - the N17, thanks to the Saw Doctors song about it:

Well I didn't see much future
When I left the Christian brothers school
So I waved it goodbye with a wistful smile
And I left the girls of Tuam
Sometimes when I'm reminiscing
I see the prefabs and my old friends
And I know that they'll be changed or gone
By the time I get home again.
And I wish I was on the n17
Stone walls and the grass is greener
Travelling with just my thoughts and dreams

Well the ould fella left me to Shannon
Was the last time I traveled that road
And ass we turned left at claregalway
I could feel a lump in my throat
As I pictured the thousands of times
That I traveled that well worn track
And I know that things will be different
If I ever decide to go back
Now as I tumble down highways
Or on filthy overcrowded trains
There's no one to talk to in transit
So I sit there and daydream in vain
Behind all those muddled up problems
Of living on a foreign soil
I can still see the twists and the turns on the road
From the square to the town of the tribes.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: Cluin
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 08:39 PM

We only found the maps a problem in the west, Bev&Jerry. But maybe they're twisting or removing signposts, still trying to confuse invaders? Should have had an Amergin along with us...


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: DougR
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 12:20 AM

Strupag: I'd love to visit the Isle of Skye. One of my best friends is a native of the Hebredes and he never tires of talking about the times when he was a wee boy.

DougR


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: Warsaw Ed
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 01:08 AM

My Grandparents were born in County Mayo - My brother & I visited there in August 2001 - Bangor Erris - Belmullet - Ballina -
Castlebar [Welcome Inn for good entertainment] - Westport - Bed and Breakfasts are all nice as are the pubs.   Advice Bring Your Longjohns! If you want to see leprechauns, visit the moors [day or night] along the coast. Ed


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: alison
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 01:20 AM

In the North, top right hand corner......Antrim Coast Road.... especially the top bit.....torr Head, Giant's Causeway, Carrick-a-rede rope bridge, Kenbane Castle....

failing that, anywhere in Donegal...... or down the West Coast is gorgeous.......

for something unforgettable (if you are down around Kerry).... bet the boat out to Greater Skellig (Skellig Michael)..... I've been to some wonderful early sites.... but that one has to be among the best....


slainte

alison


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: Songsmith
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 01:46 AM

Hello,

I had the pleasure of spending three weeks in Ireland in 97. A week in April and two weeks in July. The only place I felt was over the top tourism wise was Dublin. All the places mentioned such as Doolin and the Clifs are a must. The music wasn't hard to find on any night in any place.

Even though Dublin is now a mix of old and new you should still spend some time there. The history you touch is worth it. Also plan a lot more time to get from one place to another. The country roads aren't designed for making time but the scenery sure makes up for it.

Brilliant place!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: greg stephens
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 05:33 AM

There is a cafe in Cashel whose name I cant remember where I once had an unsatisfactory breakfast. Other than that I think you will find everywhere perfectly great. Especially Dingle, and Charlie's Bar on Union Quay in Cork.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: Declan
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 05:36 AM

Most parts of the country are worth a visit. The coasts are generally more interesting than the midlands. The West coast is particularly good for the types of things you seem to be interested in. Parts of Kerry, Clare, Galway, Mayo, Sligo and Donegal are all well known for their music. Try to ask around and find authentic traditional music rather than stuff that is specifically laid on for tourists. Given that you are coming at a quiet time of the year for tourism, you'll probably find that even the well known tourist attractions are relatively quiet. There's never any shortage of Pubs anywhere in Ireland.

Doolin uesd to be one of my favourite places, although it has become quite comercialised, but still worth a visit particularly in the off season when its not too crowded. Feb should be good. Ennis is the largest town in Co Clare and is a good place to base yourself when in Clare. Most of the rest of the county is relatively close to Ennis (I was going to say within easy reach, but the roads aren't always the best). Its a good centre for Traditional Music as well.

Galway is a lovely City and again a good place to base yourself as Connemara, North Clare and Mayo are all within relatively short driving distances. There are great session to be found in Galway City as well. North West Clare is worth a visit Kinvara, Ballyvaughan, Kilfenora, Corrofin are lovely villages and the Burren is well worth seeing.

Also try East Clare, the area around Lough Derg Kilaloe/Ballina, (a fairly short drive from Shannon Airport/Limerick City) is beautiful and well worth seeing.

Overall good advice has been given above. Don't be too rigid with your plans, be prepared to "go with the flow" and the chances are you'll have a good time. Don't try to cram too much in either- the pace of life tends to be a little slower in the west of Ireland so get in tune with that and relax, and enjoy it.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: DougR
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 12:28 PM

GUEST Gern: thanks for the use of the thread. I don't know about you, but I've received some excellent advice, I think, and sure look forward to the visit. Thanks Declan, Greg, Alison, Songsmith, Kevin, and all the rest of ye!

DougR


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: GUEST,Gern
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 01:22 PM

I agree, and appreciate the enthsiastic welcome we've been offered. The suggestions of several not to overplan travel preparations seems valid to me, and since February isn't rush hour over there, we should be able to indulge in more impulse shopping. Sorry I can't make it to Isle of Skye (or Islay, for that matter; see other thread) this time around. I'm an enthusiastic sea kayaker with a fine Welsh Nigel Dennis craft, built specifically to navigate the various Hebrides, but not this time. It's gonna be hard waiting til next year to see all this.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: Big Tim
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 03:28 PM

The stuff about the maps is a bit of a joke, a red herring. There are hundreds to choose from, in quality as good as in US or the rest of Europe . For general use I recommend:

Michelin Motoring Map: Ireland. Scale: 1:400,000 or 6.3 inches to a mile.

For more specialist use the 1:50,000 Ordnance Survey maps, north and south -separate authorities, are little short of brilliant.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: Cluin
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 03:35 PM

I was using the Ordnance Survey maps. Well, in Kilkenny anyway. And they were bang on. Except when we went wandering through the woods near Castlecomer looking for an old castle the map said was there. Only found mud and cowshit though. It was fun.

It was a motorist's map we were using in the west that was pretty chancy.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 03:35 PM

Trust you're totally confused now, Gern, about where to visit.

So I won't add to the confusion, but instead suggest a few books to get you in the mood

1. "The truth about the (O)Irish by Terry Eagleton, a hilarious account of modern Ireland, and

2. A book of which I've only read a few outstanding extracts on Amazon: "Last night's fun" by C Carson, about the culture of "the session" and lots more beside.

Enjoy your trip.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 04:05 PM

I wholeheartedly endorse the Ordnance Survey maps for anything outside the cities and towns.

Can't endorse "Last Night's Fun". Found it to be boorishly egocentric (as I find Carson's poetry, as well), chauvinist, and totally at odds with my personal experience of ITM (which happens to include women, something strangely missing from Carson's world of ITM).

Guest Gern, I'm happy to share info with you. Do you have any interest in the historic sites? In visual arts? In contemporary and/or historic literature? In science, the environment, or ?

There is plenty to see and do in contemporary Ireland. One of my favorite recommendations for tourists, for instance, are visits to some of the Industrial Heritage sites, like the Waterways Visitors' Centre, Dublin.

Also, I make recommendations to people based on how long they intend to be in specific locations (ie, where are you entering/leaving the country, how long do you intend to stay in which locations, etc). For instance, depending upon a person's interest, I would recommend visiting Newgrange while staying in Dublin, and make it a half day visit, rather than take a whole day out of precious sightseeing time. I also usually recommend Dublin bus tours to see the highlights of historic Dublin. You can get on and off the bus at each stop, and stay as long or leave as soon as you like, catching the next tourist bus to come along. Also, if you plan to visit more than one or two National Heritage sites, you will want to purchase the tourist pass, which gets you in free to all the sites once purchased.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 06:43 PM

Re: Dingle etc, I have very little local stuff to offer since most of my pals locate in the middle part of the Island, but I do know that most of the 'great' reels - IHMO came out of that locality.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 07:29 PM

Following on Greg's point - the last time I tried to use the public loo in Cahir it was locked, so I had to use one in a bar instead, and felt I ought to buy a drink while I was in there.

And there was a bus from Cashel that failed to turn up, so I had to hitch a ride in a car instead.

Yes, there are some imperfections.

County Tipperary is a great place to go, and not so many tourists - not as much music as you get in soem places out west, so you have to ask around for it. But you are more likely to have a chance of getting in a song or a tune yourself. They can be terribly high powered young musicians in some places in Kerry.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: GUEST,autopilot
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 07:33 PM

Spent a month in Ireland on a bicycle in '98. The west, tho beautiful was a little commercial for my taste. Preferred Wexford, Arklow, and the Wicklow Mtns. area. Westport is very nice as others have noted and the music in the pubs is amazing. Try renting the Chieftains' 'Water From The Well' for a first rate documentary on the music. 'Waking Ned Devine' and 'The Closer You Get', also. WND was filmed elsewhere, but captures the 'feel' of Ireland. Most of all enjoy every minute and take raingear!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: Cluin
Date: 06 Jan 03 - 07:37 PM

Dingle reels, Dingle reels, Dingle all the way...


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: BS: A Question for the Irish
From: GUEST,Gern
Date: 07 Jan 03 - 12:12 PM

As far as I can see, every square inch of the island has been recommended so far. A bit proud of our homeland, are we? Thanks all. Since I'm not sure how long we're staying or how much we can afford, I can only sift thru all this rubble for now and pick out the best. For others looking for travel ideas to ireland, someone has suggested www.hidden-ireland.ie.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate


 


This Thread Is Closed.


Mudcat time: 26 October 4:02 AM EDT

[ Home ]

All original material is copyright © 1998 by the Mudcat Café Music Foundation, Inc. All photos, music, images, etc. are copyright © by their rightful owners. Every effort is taken to attribute appropriate copyright to images, content, music, etc. We are not a copyright resource.