Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: The oldest living Heather Date: 03 Aug 98 - 04:28 PM To: Bill in Alabama Thanks much for the poem. God, it's more depressing than I remembered! Her voice made it soothing. |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: BSeed Date: 03 Aug 98 - 02:17 AM By the way, the second line of the second verse of "Turn Around" is "Little dirndls and petticoats, where have you gone." That's how Malvina wrote it. Kodak may have changed it because more people know what ponytails are than dirndls. --seed p.s.: I met Malvina Reynbolds at a now long defunct folk music club in Berkeley (she lived in Berkeley most of her life)--the club was called the Jabberwock. |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: BSeed Date: 03 Aug 98 - 02:10 AM "Turn Around" was written by Malvina Reynolds, who also wrote "Little Boxes" and hundreds of other songs. She died in the 1970's. --seed |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Ferrara Date: 03 Aug 98 - 01:40 AM Bill in Alabama, Is there any hope of your remembering more verses of "Will the Circle ..." the way your family sang it? That's a wonderful verse. |
Subject: Lyr Add: TURN AROUND (Malvina Reynolds) From: JB3 Date: 03 Aug 98 - 01:17 AM Where are you going, my little one, little one Where are you going, my baby, my own Turn around and you're two, turn around and you're four Turn around and you're a young girl going out of the door Turn around, turn around, Turn around and you're a young girl going out of the door
Where are you going, my little one, little one That's my recollection of the song. Didn't I learn it from a Kodak commercial when I was a kid? No idea who wrote it. It's similar in theme to "Sunrise, Sunset" from Fiddler on the Roof, also popular at weddings. Cheers June |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Laura Date: 03 Aug 98 - 12:34 AM Growing up, my mom used to sing TURN AROUND to my sister and I. Talk about a tear-jerker. Anyway, I can't find any form of the words now, and I'm to play it at a friend's wedding in a couple of months. Can anyone help? |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Philip Hudson Date: 01 Aug 98 - 05:14 PM Bill in Alabama To a Texan, the Sand Mountain area of Alabama and Lookout Mountain in Tennessee look like real mountains. But I agree that East Tennessee has them bigger and better. A lot of my ancestors came to Texas to escape Reconstruction. They left Mississippi as Teachers, Lawyers and Doctors and landed in Texas walking behind a mule 14 hours a day to make ends meet. Their children got no education at all and their grandchildren scant. Only in my generation (I am 61) did we finally get back to where we were. Now we have doctors, lawyers, engineers, teachers and bankers in the family again. The South did rise again. Now tell me the words to a song that starts "There's an OLD SPINNING WHEEL in the parlor". I know snatches of hundreds of songs but hardly know any of then through and have no sources. - Philip Hudson |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: BSeed Date: 30 Jul 98 - 11:13 PM There is a tearjerker, mother related, that I remember only as a poem my mother used to recite when we were on long car trips. I don't know if it had ever been set to music. It was called "LITTLE BLOSSOM" and in it a mother sends her daughter to the bar to bring home her father, who--in a drunken rage--strikes her and kills her. The poem ends with lines to the effect that although the father was punished, the real villain was honored and rewarded "because he was licensed to sell." Anyone ever run across that one (it's mother-related because my mother used to recite it, just as "The Cremation of Sam McGee" is father related: it was his contribution on the long trips. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE LAST ROSE OF SUMMER^^^ From: Bill in Alabama Date: 30 Jul 98 - 03:13 PM Hey, Heather; good to hear from you-- It's an Irish song, one of Thomas Moore's poems set to music. THE LAST ROSE OF SUMMER Thomas Moore 'Tis the last rose of summer left blooming alone, All her lovely companions are faded and gone. No flow'r of her kindred, no rosebud is nigh. . . to reflect back her blushes, or give sigh for sigh!
I'll not leave thee, lone one, to pine on the stem:
Too soon may I follow, when friendships decay, Hope you enjoy it... Bill Foster |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: The oldest living Heather Date: 30 Jul 98 - 02:17 PM I'm looking for the lyric to a Scottish (I think) my mother used to sing to me. She is from England. She now lives with me and at 88 I'ld like to learn this for her. It's called "THE LAST ROSE OF SUMMER" |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Bill in Alabama Date: 30 Jul 98 - 10:41 AM Philip: I'm in Alabama now, but I'm originally from East Tennessee. That's where you'll fine the mountains I'm talking about. As I recall, Tennesseeans played a fairly signigicant role in Texas settlement also. The joke around home used to be that all the Tennesseeans who could read went to Texas early on, and left the state to the rest of us. |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Philip Hudson Date: 30 Jul 98 - 10:16 AM Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety To: Bill in Alabama Bill, all we lack of the Mountains of Alabama here in Texas are the mountains themselves. Everybody I know is an Alabama boy/girl or a Mississippi girl/boy. We are cut out of the same cloth. All my ancestors came through Alabama on the way to Texas. It took them two centuries to get from Virginia to here and a lot of the old folks wish they hadn't come this far, especially in this heat and drought that we are having. Thanks for the Supper Time words. - Philip Hudson in Texas |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Whippoorwill Date: 28 Jul 98 - 03:38 PM This is more a "friend" song than a "mother" song, but my mother used to sing it when I was a tadpole and we'd both cry. I only remember a few words of the chorus; maybe somebody can help. I didn't find it in the database: I'm tying the leaves so they won't come down, As I recall, it was about a little girl who fell ill in the summer, and the doctor said she would die when the leaves fell. Her sister/friend tied the leaves to the tree so they couldn't fall. Anyone remember the rest? |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Bill in Alabama Date: 28 Jul 98 - 11:46 AM sorry about double-posting. I thought I had outgrown that. |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Bill in Alabama Date: 28 Jul 98 - 11:33 AM My folks sang a totally different, more general, almost hymn-like version, and the chorus was definitely WILL the Circle etc. I have often wondered if it was the source for the mother version. The tune and the chorus are the same; the first verse is-- There are loved ones in the Glory whose dear forms we often miss--/ When we've told our earthly story, will we join them in their bliss?/ Will the circle be unbroken...etc. |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Barbara Shaw Date: 28 Jul 98 - 08:52 AM The other verse I've heard in "Will the Circle Be Unbroken" which I can't remember the source for:
We sang the songs of childhood |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: CarterNut Date: 28 Jul 98 - 12:26 AM With "Will the Circle...", when the Carter Family recorded it in 1935 it was under the title "Can the Circle...". On the database there is an extra verse which I never knew. I just learned the main four that everyone has heard. |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: dick greenhaus Date: 27 Jul 98 - 10:05 PM Ferrara- I just got through entering the whole song for the next DT edition. If I can get this @#$%$$##@ Windows to cut and paste from a DOS program, I'll post the rest. |
Subject: Lyr Add: I DIDN'T RAISE MY BOY TO BE A SOLDIER^^^ From: Ferrara Date: 27 Jul 98 - 09:21 PM Just have one verse & chorus of this:
Ten million soldiers to the wars have gone
CHORUS: I DIDN'T RAISE MY BOY TO BE A SOLDIER, |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Barbara Date: 27 Jul 98 - 12:16 PM Ah, my friend, the secret is brackets: [ ] If you put the words inbetween 'em the WHOLE thing is searched, whereas if you DON'T use 'em, DT searches for individual words. And, as far as a computer is concerned "can" is nothing like "will". It gives you all and only what you ask for. Blessings, BArbara |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: BSeed Date: 27 Jul 98 - 01:56 AM Amazing! I ask for Will the Circle Be Unbroken, get a message there are no hits, and it's listed under Can the Circle Be Unbroken? How come sometimes when I try to find a song, I get a list of songs with one word from the title --and that word, like or not, is THE. |
Subject: Lyr Add: EVERY BUSH AND TREE (Otis Pierce)^^ From: Jack mostly folk Date: 27 Jul 98 - 01:47 AM Great Mother Tear jerky stuff, my alltime favorite is an Otis Pierce song covered by Jim Ringer called "Every Bush and Tree" EVERY BUSH AND TREE (Otis Pierce) I hear the soft wings a blowin in every bush and tree I know my mothers a' waiting in her heavenly home for me. I was born in old Missouri my family was poor My mother's name was Laura and my daddy's name was Joe Momma , she called me to her bedside saying Son I've got to go We'll go and meet again up yonder Where the parting will be no more (repeat 1st) Now Daddy went back home to North Fork And he left us here all alone The sheriff came by one evening And he took us to an orphan's home So come all you orphan children Who stays down here below We'll go and meet again up yonder Where the parting will be no more(repeat 1st) If you need the music or example on tape, write me... Jack the mostly folk guy. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE DYING MOTHER^^ From: CarterNut Date: 26 Jul 98 - 11:03 PM The Dying Mother Performed by the Carter Family and recorded For ARC in Chicago, Ill. in 1940. On a cold winter's eve as the snowflakes were falling, In a low humble cottage a poor mother lay; Although wrecked with pain as she layed there contented, With her Savior, her Friend and peace with Him made. Ch. We will all meet again on that great Judgement morning, The books will be open, the roll will be called; Oh how sad it will be if forever we're parted, While some rise to Glory while others stand the Fall. Oh that mother of yours has gone o'er the river, And you promised you'd meet her while knelt by her bed; As the death sweat rolled off and fell down on her pillow, Oh, her mem'ry still lives although she is dead. You remember the kiss and the last words she uttered, Oh the arms that embraced you are with you no more; As you stand by her grave teardrops fall on her casket, And you vowed there to meet her on that happy shore. Enjoy. More to come later. John |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Dale Rose Date: 26 Jul 98 - 07:55 PM Earlier today, I posted (in a thread of its own) another Chas. K. Harris song, FOR SALE, A BABY, 1903. It is certainly right there at the top of the tear-jerker category. |
Subject: Lyr Add: A MOTHER'S LOVE IS A BLESSING (Keenan)^^ From: Brack& Date: 24 Jul 98 - 04:30 AM A Mother's Love's A Blessing (T. P. Keenan)
An Irish boy was leaving,
And as the years go onwards, Chorus A song my mother taught me. Regards Mick Bracken ^^ Click to play |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Barbara Date: 24 Jul 98 - 01:52 AM Yep, computers are amazing, what they do and what they don't. They only give you what you ask for. I searched for just 'unbroken' and discovered that the song in the database is called 'CAN the Circle Be Unbroken'. Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: Lyr Add: CAN THE CIRCLE BE UNBROKEN?^^^ From: BSEEDKRATZ@aol.com Date: 24 Jul 98 - 01:17 AM i'm amazed that this isn't on the database: Will the Circle Be Unbroken G G7 C GChorus (same tune) Will the circle be unbroken, by and by, Lord, by and by? There's a better home a-waitin' in the sky, Lord, in the sky. Oh, I told the undertaker, "Undertaker, please drive slow 'Cause that body you are haulin', Lord, I hate to see her go. Well, I followed close behind her, tried to hold up and be brave, But I could not hide my sorrow as they laid her in her grave. I went back home, my home was lonesome, since my mother, she was gone. All my brothers and sisters crying, what a home so sad and lorn. |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: BSEEDKRATZ@aol.com Date: 24 Jul 98 - 12:57 AM /songster bob--doc watson sings "When the Work's All Done This Fall" on Doc Watson on Stage (with Merle Watson). A fine album: Brown's Ferry Blues, Don't Let Your Deal Go Down, Life Gets Teejus, Don't It?" and so on. |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Bill D Date: 23 Jul 98 - 07:27 PM "I DIDN'T RAISE MY BOY TO BE A SOLDIER"../seems to me it fits, though from Mom's point of view... |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: CarterNut Date: 23 Jul 98 - 12:10 PM The "Faded Coat of Blue" mentioned above is one of my favorites. I learned it from the Carter Family Victor 78 distibuted by Montgomery Ward. It is such a stirring song. |
Subject: Lyr Add: SUPPER TIME^^ From: Bill in Alabama Date: 23 Jul 98 - 06:49 AM Phillip: I certainly didn't mean to imply that we in the mountains had a monopoly on anything--except hard-headedness and distrust any form of government. As musicians, our family was an eclectic bunch, and anything that we heard which appealed to us or touched us entered our repertoire. Here are the words as I recall them: Many years ago in days of childhood, I used to play 'til evening shadows come; Then winding down that old familiar pathway, I'd hear my mother call at setting sun: CHORUS: Come home, come home, it's suppertime; The sun is sinking fast. Come home, come, it's suppertime; We're going home at last. Years later, I was standing by her bedside, And angel wings were winnowing the air. She heard the call for suppertime in heaven, And now I know she's waiting for me there. CHORUS In memory, I can see her standing yonder, And her familiar voice I hear once more; The supper table's ready up in Heaven-- It's suppertime upon the golden shore. CHORUS |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Philip Hudson Date: 22 Jul 98 - 05:35 PM Bill in Alabama: You didn't have to be in the mountains to sing "Supper Time". I had it in a song book but I lent it to one of my many brothers and I can't remember which one. - Philip Hudson in Texas |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Bill in Alabama Date: 21 Jul 98 - 12:53 PM Nathan's entry reminded me of a great old hymn which we used to sing in the mountains: "SUPPER TIME." Before Dick gives me hell about not posting the words immediately, let me say that I'll get to as quickly as I can. |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Barbara Shaw Date: 21 Jul 98 - 12:39 PM On the DT: "FADED COAT OF BLUE" |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Philip Hudson Date: 21 Jul 98 - 10:41 AM RE: message from KristBenj@aol.com Date: 06-Jul-98 - 10:36 PM
"My tear-jerker favorite is Ernest Tubb's "Soldier's Last Letter". I have been singing it for over 15 years, and it still chokes me up every time I do!" |
Subject: Lyr Add: TELL MOTHER I'LL BE THERE^^ From: Nathan Sarvis (nsarvis@iglobal.net) Date: 20 Jul 98 - 11:34 PM Old hymnals are a great source of Mother songs, often having a section in the topical index dedicated to Mother. One that is still in print and has at least 7 mother songs is Heavenly Highway Hymns (Stamps-Baxter Music, P.O. Box 4007, Dallas, TX 75208). Here is one of my favorites. I may post more later.
TELL MOTHER I'LL BE THERE
When I was but a little child how well I recollect
Chorus:
Tho I was often wayward, she was always kind and good;
When I became a prodigal, and left the old rooftree
One day a message came to me, it bade me quickly come |
Subject: Lyr Add: MOTHER WOULD COMFORT ME^^ From: rich r Date: 20 Jul 98 - 10:50 PM From the Civil War come several of these songs. George Root's "JUST BEFORE THE BATTLE MOTHER" is in the database along with a 20th century humorous parody. The following song by C.C. Sawyer is less well known. It is supposedly based on an incident wherein a Yankee soldier from New York was wounded and captured. He was taken to a hospital where the attendant told him there was nothing more that could be done and that he must die. Purportedly his last words were the title of the song. MOTHER WOULD COMFORT ME [by C.C. Sawyer (186?)] Wounded and sorrowful, far from my home, Sick among strangers, uncared for, unknown Even the birds that used sweetly to sing Are silent and swiftly have taken the wing No one but Mother can cheer me today No one for me could so fervently pray; None to console me, no kind friend is near, Mother would comfort me if she were here.
CH:
If she were with me, I soon would forget CH
Cheerfully, faithfully, Mother would stay CH
Excuse me while I go get tissue. rich r |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Songster Bob Date: 20 Jul 98 - 03:22 PM Great! I drop in for the first time in weeks and get an extra verse to one of my favorite songs ("Lightning Express"). Talk about timing! The list of mother-in-tear-jerking songs should include "WHEN THE WORK'S ALL DONE THIS FALL," where it's the wandering son who dies before he can get back to his home in Dixie. I don't know if it's in Digitrad or Cowpie, but it likely is. If not, maybe someone who knows it can get it included. I'll see if I can come up with others. Songster Bob |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Barbara Date: 20 Jul 98 - 02:42 PM Thanks, Bill! Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: Lyr Add: PLEASE MISTER CONDUCTOR^^ From: Bill in Alabama Date: 20 Jul 98 - 06:42 AM The Lightning Express (as sung by Garland Foster [1877-1960] to his grandson [me]) The Lightning Express from the Depot so grand was just pulling out on its way; All of the people that were on board seemed to be happy and gay; Except for a lad in a seat by himself, holding a letter he had-- 'Twas plain to be seen by the tears in his eyes that the contents of it made him sad. The stern old conductor came through the car, taking tickets from everyone there; When he came to the young boy's side, he gruffly demanded his fare. 'I have no ticket,' the boy replied, ' but I'll pay you back someday.' 'I'll have to put you off at the next station,' he said,' but he stopped when he heard the boy say: CHORUS (see below) 'My mother was ailing before I left home, and needed a doctor's care; I came to the city, employment to seek, but I could not find any work there. Today a letter from Sister arrived, 'come home mother's dying' did say. That's why I must make this ride, sir, though I haven't the money to pay.' A little girl in a seat close by said, 'To put that boy off is a shame!' And taking his hat a collection she made that soon paid his way on the train. 'I'm obliged to you miss, for your kindness to me..' 'You're welcome,' she said, 'Never fear." Each time the conductor came through the car, these words seemed to ring in his ear: CHORUS: Please, mister conductor, don't put me off of your train-- The best friend I have in the whole wide world is waiting for me in pain. Expected to die any moment, and may not live through the day-- I want to bid mother good-bye, sir, before God takes her away. |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Barbara Date: 17 Jul 98 - 08:29 PM Puh-leeze Mister Conductor, Don't put me offa this train The very best friend that a boy ever had Is waiting for me in vain, Ex-pected to die any moment She may not live through the day I've got to bid Mother goodbye, sir Before God takes her away.
There. That's the chorus, which is all I know, so, Bill, how about some verses?? I looked in DT and didn't find it, and I agree, it's a classic. |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Bill in Alabama Date: 17 Jul 98 - 03:38 PM The song which I learned as The Lightning Express when I was learning songs from Grandpaw back in East Tennessee is available in the Levy Sheet Music collection under the title Please Mr. Conductor Don't Put Me Off. In my humble opinion, The Blue Sky Boys' rendition of this song is one of the best tear-jerkers I have ever heard. |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: DWDitty Date: 17 Jul 98 - 01:38 PM Although some may say it is the antithesis of a Mother Song, MOTHERLESS CHILDREN has always been a favorite of mine. I particularly like Dave Van Ronk's rendition. |
Subject: Lyr Add: HELLO, CENTRAL, GIVE ME HEAVEN^^ From: Greg F. Date: 16 Jul 98 - 09:14 PM Thanks to all who contributed to this- really appreciated! Since I started this lot off, thought I should make a contribution- however over-sentimental and maudlin, it does capture the turn-of-the {last} century pretty well. Cheers!! Greg
HELLO CENTRAL, GIVE ME HEAVEN
Papa, I'm so sad and lonely, sobbed a tearful, little child. Chorus:
When the girl received this message coming o'er the telephone
|
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Martin Ryan. Date: 12 Jul 98 - 06:27 PM The old Oirish standard "MOTHER MACHREE" would surely qualify! It used be almost compulsory at the maudlin end of pub-sessions in Ireland years ago. Then it died out - or so I thought! At a well-known Irish Music Summer School last week I heard it belted out in a fine "bass-barreltone voice" (As Joyce, I think, said).
Mentioning the Willie Clancy Summer School: Lots of instrumental sessions around but one of the pubs in the town was effectively a "singers only" session - from about 11 in the morning till after midnight! You could wander in, hear a huge range of songs and singers, at any time of the day. Great!
Regards |
Subject: Lyr Add: HOLD FAST TO THE RIGHT^^ From: Barbara Shaw Date: 12 Jul 98 - 03:27 PM Hold Fast to the Right (Robert & Bill Brumley)
(Chorus) Hold fast to the right, hold fast to the right Wherever your footsteps may roam Oh, forsake not the way of salvation, my boy That you learned from your mother at home. You leave us to seek your employment, my boy By the world you have yet to be tried But in the temptations and trials you meet May your heart to the Saviour confide. I gave you to God in your cradle, my boy And I've taught you the best that I knew And as long as His mercies permit me to live I shall never cease praying for you. You will find in your satchel, a bible, my boy It's the book of all others the best It will help you to live and prepare you to die And will lead to the gates of the blest. |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Anne Date: 10 Jul 98 - 03:20 AM SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE A MOTHERLESS CHILD especially by Billie Holliday or Etta James. |
Subject: Lyr Add: WHISPER YOUR MOTHER'S NAME^^ From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au Date: 10 Jul 98 - 12:54 AM Ok Dick, calm down! Get Art to give you a double Laphraoig ;^} Here are the lyrics to Jimmie Rodgers' "Whisper Your Mother's Name" as I hear them on Rounder C-1058.
Whisper Your Mother's Name I was seated one day in a gilded cafe It was my sister's sad face, I had left home to trace CHO "If you should see your sister There were tears on her face as she passed by the place CHO Murray |
Subject: RE: 'Mother Songs' of the tear-jerker variety From: Barbara Shaw Date: 09 Jul 98 - 08:48 PM There's the tear-jerker mother/child song on the DT called "PUT MY LITTLE SHOES AWAY." |
Subject: Lyr Add: MOTHER'S PARTING WORDS TO HER DAUGHTER^^ From: Chet W. Date: 08 Jul 98 - 05:20 PM Barbara and all, Still can't find my Washington Philips album, but here's a version from the Critton Hollow Stringband from their album "By and By", Flying Fish records, 1985. A MOTHER'S PARTING WORDS TO HER DAUGHTER (W. Phillips) CHORUS By and By, I'm going to see the king
A mother called her daughter to her dyin' bed |
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