BS: Tyranny?

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: Troll
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 11:03 PM

Lurker, they are allowed to be heard. After all, they are strident and shrill and, above all, not very believable
So they are allowed to spread their message. The masses (us) read it and laugh over the absurdity of their allegations. This way, if any meaningful info ever got out by mistake, we'ed be primed to think that it was just more of the same old "chicken little".
You will notice that nearly all of these posts can be readily explained if we look at the sources ourselves and don't slavishly accept the senders interpretation of the facts. The rest are non-falsifyable statements of the "I was abducted by elvis clone" type.
If you try to point out any falacy, you are told that your mind has been clouded and you cannot be expected to see the truth.
You've been brainwashed,
The last time they washed MY brain, I think they left me on the "spin cycle" too long.

troll

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: Troll
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 10:59 PM

Lurker, now there you go again. Introducing logical thought into a thread. I'd have thought that your stay at the Neal Young Ctr, would have cured you of such nonsense.

troll

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: GUEST,Forum Lurker
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 09:45 PM

If you guys really believe what you're saying about the destruction of human rights, WHY THE HELL are you still posting on an easily traceable Internet forum and making yourselves obvious targets?!?
Honestly, people, you can't be taken seriously in a forum like this for the simple reason that if you were right, you'd never be heard.

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 07:27 PM

Another link to some info on black helicopters, but there is a ton of them out there by searching, anyway here is one-totse/conspiracy/black helicopters
Peace,Rustic

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 07:07 PM

This article talks about what our Gov. has exposed people to.
deep black lies
Peace, Rustic

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: Kim C
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 05:53 PM

According to Reuters, January 7, 2003:

"The military said it has no plans to produce the truck any time soon, although Bran Ferren, a designer of SmarTruck II, said that if an order came through it could be put in production in a year."

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 05:52 PM

You too. Let those trucks have the right-of-way.

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: Kim C
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 05:48 PM

Yeah, okay, whatever. Have a nice weekend.

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 05:12 PM

It's no prototype. They only show it to you today because you'll see thousands tomorrow. Then they can say 'what's the problem, we TOLD you about it.' Our government sprayed us with Sarin nerve gas. Story a couple months ago. The U.S. govt. sprayed us with Sarin years ago, just like that 'evil doer' Saddam did to his people. So if our govt admitted they sprayed us, it's because they're setting PRECEDENT. When the next attack of airbornes comes, they'll say 'what's the problem, we TOLD you about it.'

Well, if the 'prototype' was unveiled with a brass band, there is a fleet of them ready to roll. And we don't need these things cruising the streets of America. Period. Unless there is some NEED for them we don't know about. What do our leaders have in mind for us that is so terrible they need to build concentration camps and roll over us with Robotrucks? The sky HAS fallen, but some people just don't want to admit it.

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: Kim C
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 04:51 PM

Right now, the truck is nothing but a prototype.

Excuse me if I don't think the sky is falling just yet.

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 04:33 PM

Geez Doug...you see flamers everywhere. The SmarTruck is a crowd control device. It's not a hardened military vehicle...it's a multi-purpose vehicle for domestic use. It'll move through your neighborhood, monitor this and that and shoot rubber bullets at crowds of 'possible al Qeada' congregated at the local McDonalds. In case it has escaped your attention, we are living in a tyranny in the U.S. 'There are none so enslaved as those who believe themselves to be free'. Our cops are being militarized, and the Homeland Security Act just created a Gestapo, a national police. Rumsfeld has just given licenses to kill to American military...kill 'other terrorists', which is you and me. Carte blanche license to kill. And now, the general who held the NORAD interceptor jets on the ground Sept. 11 has been promoted to supreme commander of NORTHCOM. The U.S. military now claims all of North America. Well I don't want all of North America. I just want us to get back to sane foreign policy. Pay a fair market price for oil and skip the wars. Let the poverty-stricken fundamentalists build schools to educate their way out of their cycle of poverty while we in the U.S. keep on as we were. But you seem to have bought into this 'need for perpetual war'. Get the soap suds out of your head.

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: DougR
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 04:16 PM

Flamer feeding time!

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: Amos
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 02:52 PM

Short brief, LH:

"SmarTruck II"
• Modified platform of Chevrolet Silverado pickup
• V-8 engine, 350 horsepower
• Instead of truck bed, stainless steel interchangeable boxes that can contain anything from small missile and launcher system or communication and surveillance systems.
• Vehicle could also carry unmanned dronelike aircraft.
• Cab houses 3-D mapping system and communication system dubbed 'hacker in a box' that could monitor e-mail in area, send e-mail or destroy enemy communication system.
• Prototype cost: Between $500,000 and $1 million.

Source: Reuters

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 02:45 PM

I cannot reach the page with the truck for some reason.

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: Amos
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 02:16 PM

The truck fires whatever the current module and munitions load is -- the whole point of the truck, which is a one-off prototype, is that it is modular.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: Kim C
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 02:10 PM

All helicopters look like black dots in the sky when they're far away.

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 02:07 PM

Check out some of the videos here:

www.infowars.com

Videos of the 'black helicopters'. You've been conditioned (if you are joking about this) to think black helicopters don't exist. Ten years of media debunking 'black helicopter kooks'. Well, there is video of raids which took place in Texas...Alice, Texas...other places. The Feds rent some old factory building and do an 'assault drill' on the place in the dead of night. They don't tell the locals, so in addition to getting the practice hours under their belts, they get the added boon of terrorizing the locals. So if you're joking about black helicopters, do some research. If you can afford a computer, you can afford filmed evidence of black helicopter exercises.

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: Kim C
Date: 10 Jan 03 - 01:48 PM

Yep. There's a pack of black helicopters flying over me right now.

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 07:55 PM

And the truck fires rubber bullets. It ain't for combat.

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 07:53 PM

This is what the movie 'Eyes Wide Shut' deals with. The people planning to kill your family don't even have to hide their intentions. It is too heinous for you to believe. The proof is everywhere you look, but you don't even see it.

In that movie, by the way, the female lead was tortured as a child, in a program called MKUltra. Traumatized to the point of personality fragmentation, where the new personality created is then programmed to carry out missions. Like in 'The Manchurian Candidate'. In the real world of G. Bush Sr's CIA, the tortured children are used as prostitutes, drug runners, killers. The personality Kidman tries to suppress in the movie is her 'prostitute' personality, which people who know the triggers are able to activate.

But if you can't believe Federal courts SAYING you have no rights, you certainly couldn't believe in the U.S. government's continuation of Joseph Mengele's experimentation. Eyes wide shut.

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 07:21 PM

Please note the followinig alterations:

1. The "Concentration Camp" story is about FEMA preparations for housing emergencvy victimns in large numbers in the event of an attack.

2. The Super Dangerous Truck is a military vehicle, not in production.

3. The Terrorist On American Soil was a lone Army guy who was a bit of a nutball and placed a half-stick of dynamite charge under a power substation tower; not so nutso that he didn't realize he could get hurt playing with that shit, and threw the battery away.

I stopped checking references after three strikes.

Mental capabilities suffering from field distortion??

A

Subject: RE: BS: Tyranny?
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 07:14 PM

> Nora F. Crow
> Department of English
> Smith College
>
> 'Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the land,
> not a critic was stirring, for stirring was banned.
> A thousand brown prisoners, snug in their cells,
> all held without charges or tinsel or bells;
> and mamma was wrapped in the national flag,
> while we sang "Where there's never a boast or a brag."
>
> When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter,
> I sprang from my bed to see what was the matter.
> Away to the TV I flew like a flash;
> I then watched "Survivor" and reruns of "Mash."
> The fireworks, exploding above the new snow,
> gave a luster of objects to people below.
> When what saw my wondering eyes in the flashes:
> a miniature George Bush and eight tiny fascists!
> Their jerseys were blue and said "WORLD DOMINATION";
> I knew right away this was not just claymation.
> More rapid than eagles the warlords they came,
> as the little Bush whistled and called them by name:
> "Now, Daschle! now, Ashcroft! Now Strom, don't relent!
> On, Poindexter, Rumsfeld! on Henry and Trent!
> To the top of the globe, while the crowd's at the mall,
> now bomb away, bomb away, bomb away all!"
> His sack had a war game for each girl and boy;
> his pocket, four billion from just Illinois.
> Far up on his high seat the driver did mount,
> with more massive weapons than Kofi could count.
>
> And then, I heard sounds from away off somewhere,
> the booming of bombs that were bursting in air.
> As I drew in my head, and was turning around,
> down the chimney old Dick Cheney came with a bound.
> He said not a word, nor disclosed his location;
> he wiretapped my house in the name of the nation.
> Then holding the strings of his little Bush puppet,
> he went to the chimney and quickly rose up it.
> The sleigh was still running, but Dick didn't hurry;
> gas guzzlers, it seemed, were no longer a worry.
> He popped the champagne and exclaimed as he served it,
> "The world is now ours, and GOD DAMN, we deserve it!"

The Smar5tTruck link given above should go to http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/07/army.truck.reut/index.html

A
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Subject: BS: Is This Tyranny?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 06:46 PM

NO MORE RIGHTS

A federal appeals court ruled Wednesday that the government can hold U.S. citizens as enemy combatants during wartime without the constitutional protections afforded Americans in criminal prosecutions....

YOU ARE NEXT

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld announced yesterday he has given new power to the nation's covert warriors to KILL and capture al Qaeda operatives and OTHER TERRORISTS...

DOCUMENTED U.S. GOVERNMENT TERRORISM ON AMERICAN SOIL

Jacksonville, Fla., police arrested a soldier Saturday after finding him armed, wearing black clothes and leaving a power plant where he allegedly left an explosive....

VEHICLE TO BE USED AGAINST YOU

"Once this vehicle comes on the scene, we want everyone to know that we mean business," Germaine Fuller, the director of the project that created it, told Reuters at a news conference featuring a marching color guard and a military band playing patriotic songs such as "God Bless America."

CONCENTRATION CAMPS WAITING FOR YOU

FEMA, the federal agency charged with disaster preparedness, is engaged in a crash effort to prepare for multiple mass destruction attacks on U.S. cities - including the creation of sprawling temporary cities to handle millions of displaced persons, NewsMax has learned. ...

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(It's all over but the crying, people. The legal framework to imprison you for ANYTHING is in place. The camps are built, the licenses to kill have been issued. There will be another government-sponsored 'terrorist' attack, and you will be expected to submit to the foreign troops brought in to 'help' us. Buy guns.)