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Death of PR Cassette

McGrath of Harlow 23 Jan 03 - 10:31 AM
clansfolk 23 Jan 03 - 03:51 PM
clansfolk 23 Jan 03 - 04:27 PM
Jim Colbert 24 Jan 03 - 12:01 PM
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Subject: RE: Death of PR Cassette
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 10:31 AM

It is as easy to set up to record onto PC as it would be to record on a stand alone CD recorder

Not in a pub it isn't (well, I suppose if you had some pricey laptop, maybe). And my PC at home hums too loud.

Of course cassette tapes are a menace at times, especially when the tape gets wound round the spindles and that. Sometime I'll afford a mini-disc recorder, and I look forward to that. But I won't be junking my cassette recorder for a good long while, and probably never.


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Subject: RE: Death of PR Cassette
From: clansfolk
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 03:51 PM

McGrath - the quote was refering to recording back-ups of Records and Caassettes not to Live recordings ;-)

However - recording in pubs - must be something there re PRS/PEL!

Most of the time when I record "on Location" I use a minidisc or portable hard disc recorder - the last minidisc I got was from our local "catalogue" shop 4x play built in radio mike input - line and optical inputs all £65 - a lot less than we paid for our reel to reel tape deck back in the 50's!

cheers

Pete


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Subject: RE: Death of PR Cassette
From: clansfolk
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 04:27 PM

Jim

......but is there an inexpensive, authentic-sounding plug in or program that allows you to do that on the PC? (That's not looking for an argument, just a question!)

argument???? where sound is concerned - everyone is right! - a very personal thing - what say you??

Authentic-sounding - "to whom" tends to be my answer - I can tell the difference - but sound is "what I do" - and I would guess that 90%+ of the music listening public certainly wouldn't notice other than saying they preferred the sound when applied to the right kind of music (I sure you know what I'm referring to without listings!) - I use the sound forge plug-in (with a lot of tweaking) - not what I would call "cheap" (in either sense of the word) and not for the occasional user - but I have had some very pleasing results both for myself and the artists concerned - only problem being the compression added by our friends at the broadcasting studio's - buggers up the sound no end!!


Having monitors, portable players, budget range hi-fi's plus and expensive system in the listening suite at the studio - our recordings get a wide range of listening prior to final mix-down - and unfortunately the final mix is aimed firmly at the best sound for the middle of the range - to give an acceptable sound for the majority of the buying public. sad but life....

Sound tends to be a bit like photography - Gran loves those old 110 photo's of her grand children - a profession photographer would view them with a different eye - but he won't change Grans mind - quite rightly - too often do I find myself listening to "problems" on a recording and not what the artist wanted me to - the music - my loss.

cheers Pete


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Subject: RE: Death of PR Cassette
From: Jim Colbert
Date: 24 Jan 03 - 12:01 PM

Hey, great analogy, sound and photography! Kind of like an audience or soundboard tape of a concert you were at- the quality isn't going to be the same as the official live release you bought, but just like a bad photo remembering a certain time in your life or memory you cherish, it is cool cause you were there!

And great point about having to mix for the masses and listening on a variety of sources. "authentic-sounding" was probably the wrong choice of words- what I meant was, was there a plug in that added warmth without sounding cheesy, you know some of those shared or dirt cheap bottom-feeder things (from what I've heard) are kinda fake sounding. Probably fine mixing a huge-bottom dance thing with a lot of layers, but nastier sounding when used in starker acoustic formats.

Cheers!

Jim


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