BS: US & British war plans blocked

Subject: RE: BS: US & British war plans blocked
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 02:23 PM

Well, danged, hope Junior don't stick 'em on his "Axis of Evil" list when he goes to the U.N. next week.

Man, talk about a ratings dive. Whew. That would do it for the poor boy.

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: US & British war plans blocked
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 02:20 PM

The shrub's approval rating continues to spiral downward.

Subject: RE: BS: US & British war plans blocked
From: CarolC
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 02:15 PM

I'll admit to having a degree of what may be irrational paranoia when it comes to this sort of thing. But when I see things calming down in this way, I feel myself bracing for some sort of manufactured "terrorist" attack designed specifically to convince us of the need for an attack on Iraq. I hope it's just irrational paranoia I'm feeling.

Subject: RE: BS: US & British war plans blocked
From: GUEST,Sunny Day
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 02:14 PM

Well, I wouldn't say forgiveness. I'd say that the Bush/Blair War Project will simply yell bombs away, and not concern themselves with who will line up behind them after the smoke clears. Right now, most of the new eastern European NATO members are backing the Bush/Blair War Project, not the French, Germans, Russians, and Chinese leading the charge in the opposite direction.

What will be interesting is to see how countries like Turkey and Saudi Arabia line up when the bombing begins. Which I think it will, no matter what anyone does. The Man Behind the Curtain won't be stopped, no matter who opposes the Great and Powerful Imperial Oz, that much is clear.

Subject: RE: BS: US & British war plans blocked
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 02:10 PM

Definitely good news, but then again NATO has alwyas been split to some degree. Someone once quipped that NATO stood for Not Able To Organize.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: US & British war plans blocked
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 02:09 PM

If we get past the State of the Union address January 28th without an active war announcement embedded in it, maybe it will mean that Bush and his cohorts have been forced to slow down their headlong rush to war. I'm just afraid that he has already decided that it is easier to achieve forgiveness than to obtain permission.

Subject: RE: BS: US & British war plans blocked
From: GUEST,Sunny Day
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 01:43 PM

The slowing down of the march to war is astoundingly good news. What concerns me (hence the mention of it) is the fact that the arrogance of Blair/Bush is resulting is what may be a split in NATO and the UN Security Council over the US & British insistence that they have a sovereign right to unilaterally wage war, unprovoked, upon a third nation.

Those are some serious divisions along predictably divisive lines (ie the British and Americans against everyone else) in NATO and the UN Security Council. Both those bodies were formed to prevent just this sort of chest beating unilateralist imperialism by these two particularly powerful empires.

Not to mention the historic meaning it has for British and American meddling over trying to control the oil rich resources of the Middle East for the better part of the last century.

Subject: RE: BS: US & British war plans blocked
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 01:07 PM

I heard this as GOOD news, today. I was esp. heartened to hear some of our own Congresspeople finally speaking out for more time for the weapons inspectors and also in favour of no-war, esp. without the UN. I believe the tide is turning and we will see a better, safer day. We must continue speaking out.

Subject: BS: US & British war plans blocked
From: GUEST,Sunny Day
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 12:57 PM

This week, NATO members France & Germany, along with several other western European members, effectively blocked NATO from participating in the US & British war against Iraq. Today, China and Russia announced they will join France & Germany to block consensus on proceeding to war against Iraq in the UN Security Council.

It also appears that both the US and Britain are arrogantly hardening their resolve to find a few token "partners" to go along with their war plans, which could of course lead to a very dangerous split within NATO and the Security Council. Sad isn't it, that the two Anglo dominant empires are willing to take the world, especially Europe, to the brink like this?