BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 11:51 PM

Actually, "belief" is just an opinion (informed or not informed). I don't count too heavily on stuff I merely believe...it's stuff I KNOW that I count heavily on. The stuff I merely believe in is interesting, but it remains somewhat speculative, although some beliefs are admittedly a lot firmer than others.

(For instance, I believe Hitler died in 1945. I don't know it for absolute certain, but I think the evidence that he did is pretty strong. I also believe Neil Armstrong was on the moon. Again, the evidence seems pretty convincing. I KNOW who I am and I KNOW I am alive and I KNOW life is valuable. I know I don't wish to kill anyone...although I'm not incapable of doing so. That's knowledge. I believe Bush is a misguided man on a disastrous course. That's opinion.)

The stuff other people believe in is interesting too, partly cos it tells you a lot about them...partly because it can open up new possibilities which one may not have considered before at all.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 11:38 PM

OK, OK, I don't "belive" yet, but I have found a bunch of links I am checking out..........Bohemian Grove does exist, still looking for proof of the Moloch/sacrifice connection.........

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 11:11 PM

How did you access the videos, Amos? I must be doing something wrong or my computer is lacking some software or something.

Forum Lurker - Spectacularly apt point about Jehovah!!! Right smack on the money with that one, I'd say. Watch out for people whose religion is full of blood, vengeance and the justification of slaughter in "God's name". The Nazis were heavy dabblers in both regular conventional Christianity (for the common masses and the ordinary soldiers), mixed with Nordic mythology, and then some really weird occult stuff for the leaders in the innermost circles of power.

It wouldn't surprise me too much if corporate America were doing something similar. Very rich people tend to get drawn into very peculiar stuff...too much power and too much money can do that to some people, maybe most people. That's what the movie "Eyes Wide Shut" was about.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 11:11 PM

Excuse me, but WHAT videos???

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 11:04 PM

No, you better prove to me.............you're the one who brought it up. Sounds suspiciously like the Anti Semitsm crap. I don't like the Bush Bunch, but I am NOT ready to believe this........YOU prove it,beyond a shadow of a doubt.............

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 10:56 PM

make that 'greed-whores'

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 10:54 PM

Not used to...still does. They practice it at Bohemian Grove. The Bushes practice it. I suspect some of you have done some searches on this new topic by now, and you CAN'T discount it. Prove me wrong, people. I don't WANT to believe the Bushes practice human sacrifice, but all indicators show they do, and they're gearing up for a really big one. I could deal with pig-blooded green-whores running our government...but worshippers of the Owl God? How do we deal with that? Or maybe it's not an issue. Prove me wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 10:54 PM

The Moloch scenes in those two vidos are extremely weird indeed. But the mellerdrammer being added by the narrator is even more so -- although I do admire anyone who can hit the streets with a megaphone calling the Residnet "A Luciferian Twit!".

Wow. Wacky shit!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: GUEST,Forum Lurker
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 10:12 PM

So Bush might be worshiping a god whose cult used to entail child sacrifice. Compare that to the worship of a god who frequently commanded his followers to commit mass genocide, often on tribes whose only crime was to inhabit the promised land and not worship him. Moloch and Jehovah both had some pretty nasty stuff to their names, 3000 YEARS AGO! I'd be a lot more convinced if you didn't constantly equate Bush being a bad person with Bush worshiping the wrong entity.

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 09:42 PM

this 'guest' made one serious mistake...the first two words, "I think....

trolling has become quite an art, hmmm?

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 09:41 PM

You folks like to ridicule and discount, so convince me I'm wrong about this. Look at the video, look at some of the URLs and the current events, and convince me I'm completely off-base on this. CONVINCE me I'm posting from 'the twilight zone', I'm watching the X-files, and all those other pat ways you have of blocking out the unpleasant. These monsters are ancient and as dead serious as you can get. Your PRESIDENT is about to sacrifice Americans to an ancient Canaanite deity. I want to be wrong on this, so convince me I am, and back it up with references.

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 08:51 PM

I think it'll be a nuclear bonfire. I think our CIA will nuke our congregation of troops massed in Pakistan. 50,000 in one ball of flame.

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 08:49 PM

Probably what GW calls the thing. But it's 'Moloch', and his old man appears to be pretty serious in his service of it. He and Cheney are sending lots of combustible troops over there for the bonfire.

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 08:49 PM

In one of those Mudcat synchronicit things, in another thread I've just been drawing a parallel between the impending war and Rome's genocidal Third Punic War against the defeated Carthage - the one that led the Roman historian to say "They made a desert and they called it peace".

And Carthage had been where the Moloch sacrifices was said to have taken place. Mind, a lot more children were killed by the Romans.

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 08:48 PM

ah! confused this time of nicht- its me age y'no-
i meant molluscs! 8-)

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: Cluin
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 08:33 PM

Sorry, that should be H.G. Wells' "morlocks".

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 08:32 PM

Moloch has appeared here and there in both fiction and non-fiction. Demons, like Archangels, appear to have lengthy lifespans, and a tendency to keep returning to Earth to make "guest" appearances when conditions are right.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: Cluin
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 08:32 PM

Nope.

The God Moloch, later a demon.

H.G. Wells' molochs.

Different but related, sort of.

Subject: RE: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 08:25 PM

isn't 'Moloch' a fictional deity featured in 'The Time Machine'by H.G.Wells?

Subject: BS: Sacrifice to Moloch?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jan 03 - 08:14 PM

The Bushes belong to Bohemian Club. The club has meeting places around the world, but one of the favorites is in northern California. There, once a year, a couple thousand men meet for the 'Cremation of Care' ceremony, in which a sacrifice is made to a 40-foot stone owl deity. You can see streaming video of the ceremony at the URL below:

http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html

The owl god is Moloch, an ancient Canaanite god. The following is a description of the Canaanite ceremony:

...The Canaanites actually constructed a huge copper likeness of the deity, complete with a complicated mechanical ability to raise an arm and open it's mouth. This 30 to 40 ft. tall idol had a large belly that would be filled with firewood and stoked until the belly glowed orange. The children to be sacrificed would be made so that they could not move. How they did this is a mystery, but one can imagine that a sharp blow to the head or a combination of readily available drugs could render a person listless....

http://www.dunmoloch.com/moloch.html

And now you have the Bushes sending our children to that part of the world to end up "...bulldozed into mass graves and burned to save the lives of surviving troops, under an option being considered by the Pentagon..."

http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/01/1565691.php

The Bushes are apparently preparing a huge sacrifice to Moloch in the Middle East.