I've just buried my grandson

Subject: I've just buried my grandson
From: Mantid
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 02:49 PM

I have just buried my grandson who I never met. He was five months growing and both he and my daughter were seen by the midwife last weekend. The sonogram showed every thing to be just fine. But Wednesday morning my daughter just went into labor and he was born weiging 11 ounces and 10 inches long. He lived about 20 minutes. The hospital dressed him in doll clothes and wrapped him in a blanket and provided a beautiful Chinese-style basket/box so they could bring him home. He is buried on a hill overlooking the Shenadoah mountains. He was my first grandchild. This being Valentines Day, Please have fun with your children and grandchildren. Give them some extra hugs and a bunch of juicy kisses. I will be giving my prayers and tears to little Hadrian Daniel.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 02:53 PM

My heart goes out to you and yours this Valentine's Day. There's nothing more I can say or do, but know that my thoughts are with you.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Alice
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 02:58 PM

Mantid, I am very sorry to hear your loss. I have twin daughters in a grave together because they were premature. My sympathy to you, the parents, and all your family.

Alice

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: jeffp
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 02:59 PM

My sympathies as well.

jeffp

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 03:00 PM

No words will be enough.......We are so sorry. Know that our thoughts are with you. We know the tough times that all of your family must be experiencing. Hold your daughter close and dear; she needs you now more than ever.

Pat & Karen

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 03:02 PM

My sympathies to each of you. Somehow we survive that kind of loss but it isn't easy. Take care of yourselves.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: InOBU
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 03:13 PM

There is really nothing to say, but know that the whole Mudcat family are holding you and yours in our hearts. Larry

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 03:15 PM

So sorry to hear of your loss. It was touch and go with my daughter's twins who were also born early. Makes one realise just how precious we all are. Please know we send our deepest sympathies. May you find solace in the love of one another.

kat & Rog

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Sonnet
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 03:26 PM

Love,light and hugs.

Jay McS

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Kim C
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 03:29 PM

I am so sorry. I wish you peace and hugs.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: TIA
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 03:49 PM

Hadrian-

May the blessing of the Earth be on you...
may it rest so lightly over you
that your soul may be off from under it quickly
and up and off, and on its way to God

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Sophie
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 03:50 PM

My thoughts and love are with you all.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Deda
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 03:51 PM

I also send hugs and my deep condolences. I am so sorry your family had such a loss. Praying for comfort and healing for you.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: open mike
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 04:04 PM

no parent or grandparent should have to endure the loss of a child or grandchild...i lost both parents this year, but thier lives were long and full I and I can only imagine how devastating it must be to lose a young one...blessings to all, and the angels have gained a pure spirit to add to their choir! I will send good thoughts to you all as I walk the labyrinth.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 04:08 PM

My wife and I lost a grandson in just the same way. Our thoughts and prayers go out to you and his parents. Burl

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Tinker
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 04:18 PM

Blessings and Light to aid the dark tiem on your road. Hold each other closely... Kathy

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 04:18 PM

Hadrian Daniel - those are great names.

I hope some day you'll be able to tell his little brother or sister about the brother who's looking out for them.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Jimmy C
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 04:30 PM

Mantid, I am so terribly sorry to hear about the little one, my heartfelt sympathy to you and yours. My thoughts are with you today.

God bless

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: CarolC
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 04:36 PM

Our deepest condolences to you and your family on your loss, Mantid.

Carol and Jack the Sailor

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 04:37 PM

I'm terribly sorry.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 04:41 PM

My deepest, deepest sympathy to you and all the family.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: GUEST,maire-aine
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 04:48 PM

I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. Love and prayers to you and your family.

Maryanne

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Mantid
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 04:49 PM

Thank everyone for your kind words and warm thoughts. I am going to print this thread and give it to my daughter and son-in-law this weekend. I'm sure it will be a comfort to them.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 04:52 PM

I am sorry.Keep his parents close. They need you now.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: rock chick
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 05:05 PM

Mantid such a loss is so deep, now you need to be so strong for little Hadrian Daniel parents, may you find the strength in each other, my heart felt thoughts go out to you all.

shelagh

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Wesley S
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 06:00 PM

I've been there too. About two years ago my wife and I lost one of our twins when he was 6 days old. We were very lucky to have a wonderful support system that included many of the good people here at the Mudcat. I'll be keeping you and Hadrians parents in my thoughts and prayers. The next few months and years will be tough but it will get better.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: DougR
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 06:56 PM

Sorry for your loss Mantid.

DougR

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Brakn
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 07:41 PM

My thoughts are with you.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: smallpiper
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 07:50 PM

I'm sorry for your loss and will remember you all in my prayers
John

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: GUEST,jaze
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 07:51 PM

I'm so very sorry. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 07:54 PM

I am so sorry to hear of your family's loss. I have just now said a prayer for you, your grandchild and the parents. God has a special place in Heaven this child.

Bobert

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: GUEST,darkriver
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 08:02 PM

Mantid,

So sorry about this news. My thoughts are with you and with Hadrian Daniel's parents.

darkriver

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Mudlark
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 08:46 PM

Very sorry to hear this news. My deepest sympathy to you all.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: GUEST,DancingMom
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 09:29 PM

I'm sorry.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Morticia
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 09:46 PM

Holding you and your family in the light....may you have the strength to come through this.....much love,

Terri

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 10:02 PM

My condolences to all.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 14 Feb 03 - 11:49 PM

My heart-felt sympathy to you and your family, Mantid.
Love, Rustic

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Gypsy
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 12:07 AM

((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))) to one and all. Am so very sorry to hear of your families loss

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Art Thieme
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 12:23 AM

Mantid,

Just terrible. So sad. No words really. All I can think of tonight is the fact that---just today---I mailed off a birthday gift for our granddaughter who will be two years old the 28th of this month. My daughter-in-law also had a miscarriage. It simply devastated us all. Then, a year later, the light of my life, Chloe Moon Thieme was born helthy, happy and with a smile like the rainbow and the pot of gold combined.

All the best----now and in the future.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: BlueJay
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 01:52 AM

Dear Mantid- So sorry. I can't even pretend to know you and your family's grief. My grandson was premature, and it was pretty touchy, but he is OK today. My family's thoughts are with you. Sadly, a lady at work just had to go out of town because her daughter's child was stillborn.
Thanks for the reminder, Mantid. I'll hug my grandson tomorrow. My other kids as well. You did a good thing by sharing this. A lot of kids are gonna get a lot of hugs tomorrow. Thanks, BlueJay

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: mouldy
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 03:07 AM

My heartfelt sympathy and warm loving wishes to all of you. I cannot even begin to imagine your pain at the moment. But by sharing it, you are helping yourself and your family.

My neighbour had to have her second child, a daughter, aborted at 5 months due to an extremely severe heart deformation, which meant that she was unlikely to survive even gestation, let alone labour. (The defect was picked up on a merely routine scan, when she had gone there on her own; she was told to go home and talk it over with her husband and make the hardest decision of her life). After the birth the hospital held a form of Baptism for the baby, and her name is in a beautiful book of remembrance in York Infirmary chapel: one which is kept specifically for babies. She is buried in a churchyard in the village where her grandparents live (as her parents were in rented accommodation and still house-hunting at the time). Since then my friend has had her third child, but has never excluded Lucy from the family number. Both children knew all along they have a sister "with God", and each Christmas she has her candle at the candlelit services in our village church. She would have been about 12 years old now. When Heather moved to our village it was only a few months after the event. She was always open about it, even then, and we have cried together over our respective kitchen tables!

There is a difficult road immediately in front of you, but it will get better, I'm sure, because of the love and support you have for each other. It will just take as long as it takes, like any road, and you must go at your own pace.

Andrea

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Genie
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 04:53 AM

So very sorry to hear of this great loss to you and your family, Mantid. My deep sympathy and concern go out to all of you at this saddest of times.

Genie

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Pushkin
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 04:57 AM

Our thoughts are with you at this time Mantid.

Pushkin and StevetheORC

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Escamillo
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 05:12 AM

I'm very sorry, Mantid, you don't know me, I have been silent for months because I've lost my dear wife after a long fight against cancer, on December 6. Your grandson and family will share my prayers for her and for our first grandson who is now coming.

Un abrazo
Andrés (in Buenos Aires, Argentina)

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Jeanie
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 06:00 AM

Sending Love to you Mantid, your daughter, her husband and all your family. May you find every strength and courage to see you through this sad time.

Like others who have posted here, I too lost my first little one, who I called Patrick. Although he never set foot on this earth, it gives me great comfort now, sixteen years on, to know that his brief visit left as much of a positive, life-changing, lasting influence for good as if he had been here three score years and ten.

With Love to your family and to Hadrian Daniel,

- jeanie

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: gnu
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 06:31 AM

Thoughts and prayers.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 06:38 AM

Love and prayers. The fact that you never held your grandson doesn't diminish the anguish. Know that you are being held in light and love.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Cllr
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 07:25 AM

Difficult to add to the thoughts expressed here, so just to say my prayers are with you and your family. Cllr

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: fat B****rd
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 04:02 PM

I feel so bad for you and your family. Please accept my kind thoughts and best regards.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Carly
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 05:26 PM

My heart-felt sympathy.Hold on to those who you
care about and who care for you;
love is the best response I know of to tragedy.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: weerover
Date: 15 Feb 03 - 05:39 PM

My wife and I had the same experience. My daughter lost her own (perfectly healthy) daughter through a complication just a day before she should have been born. I never knew that mental anguish could be such a physical pain. I had had a faith of sorts which took a major blow that is still reverberating. My heart goes out to you and anyone else who has ever been in this position.

We now have a grandson a few months old who lights up our lives every time we see him.

wr

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Tig
Date: 16 Feb 03 - 05:29 PM

Mantid, my heart goes out to you.

I couldn't post when I first read this thread as it brought back the heartache when our second daughter (Firecat's little sister) was still born. She would have been severely handicapped if she had lived but we didn't know this until the delivery.

You will never forget him and he will always have a special place in your heart.

Lots of love and hugs,
Chris xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Socorro
Date: 16 Feb 03 - 08:29 PM

Dear Mantid,
Your post touched me very deeply. I can only add my prayers.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: M.Ted
Date: 16 Feb 03 - 11:27 PM

From our own experience, I know that this is a different kind of pain than any other--all the best thoughts for you and your family.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 16 Feb 03 - 11:43 PM

He wasn't into the third tri-mester.

Most mudcatting pro-abortionists would feel no grief - since there was "no passing" of a "human being."

I, on the other hand, understand your pain, and commiserate with your loss....life begins at conception.

Sincerest condolances,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Bugsy
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 12:10 AM

We too have lost a grandson, though we were lucky enough to have him with us for 3 months.

Our thoughts and prayers are with you, your daughter and all your family.

I do believe they look down on us from some higher place.


Bugsy

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: aussiebloke
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 11:04 AM

Mantid

I used to be a delivery suite midwife, and saw plenty of the human side of these type of tragic events. I was the guy who would speak to grandparents (such as your good selves) over the phone, and (with the permission from the parents) deliver the devastating line which begins "I regret to inform you...."

It hurts everyone really bad, parents and grandparents alike. Over time you hurt less and less, but you never forget. I am sorry for your loss, please accept my condolences...

aussiebloke

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 11:55 AM

Yes, we've been there too. A long time ago now, but Sue lost (we think) abut four altogether; two stopped growing at three months and had to be removed (not a nice word for it, but just not nice at all), and the others were a little earlier and went by themselves. We have two wonderful grown-up kids whom we're very proud of, so maybe it's just not time for your daughter just yet. We sahll think about you all.

Steve & Sue

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: GUEST,Codfish
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 01:58 PM

It's so hard to understand why these things have to happen. It happened to our daughter but fortunately she went on to have three healthy sons. I hope and pray that the same holds true in your family.
May the Good Lord bless all of you during this difficult time.

Codfish

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: GUEST,Dumbfounded
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 04:01 PM

Reading the genuine sympathy and feeling of the postings to this thread emboldens me to ask
What do I say to my friend Jim whose beautiful young student grand-daughter lost her life , tragically, at the week-end. I know that I must speak to him soon but the fear of adding more grief to what must be by now an overwhelming burden makes me hesitate.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Jack The Lad
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 04:15 PM

My thoughts and prayers go with you Mantid, and with the parents. May Hadrian enjoy everlasting peace.
Jack The Lad

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Jim Colbert
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 04:15 PM

Nothing's going to make it better, but know that you have our sympathy, empathy and prayers. Everything I would have said has already been said here.

Be well, and be there for your family. And know that people you don't even know, or wouldn't know if you fell over, feel your sorrow and loss.

jpc

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 11:26 PM

SAY NOTHING - just listen....bite your tongue, even if it bleeds.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Feb 03 - 05:30 PM

I was not able to post when I read your thread, I wanted to call my wife so that she could read it too. I had to go and get her and point to the screen as I was too close to tears to talk. We sat together and cried.
Today is our son's 11th birthday, when he blew out his candles I remembered you and the tears welled up again so I just had to find this thread again and say something - but what can I say that may help? nothing other than there are strangers out there hurting with you even thow we don't know anything about you other than your name.
Be strong in the knowledge that there is support out there.
Send another thread in a years time & another a year after.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: bfolkemer
Date: 18 Feb 03 - 07:52 PM

Mantid,

As tears well up, I want to add my post to the others. Hadrian will always be part of your family, just as my elder brother is. Prayers and love for you and your whole family.

Beth

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 02:55 AM

Mantid, my sincerest condolences to you and your family on this loss.

Seamus

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 03:06 AM

Condolances to you and yours for your troubles. Not much else I can say except I'm sending my best wishes. These things are unfair, but remember he'll always be with you and around you.

Regards

Ella

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: GUEST,Sandy Paton
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 04:20 AM

Your heartbreak makes me cherish my own grandchildren even more. God! I can't imagine the pain of losing one of them. My wife and I offer our deepest sympathy to you and your family.
    Sandy

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: GUEST,JohnL
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 04:35 AM

So sorry to read of your loss.

My daughter (who is a midwife) had our first grand child, a beautiful baby girl, 2 1/2 months premature weighing in at 2lb 7 oz last November. After several weeks in intensive care and many ups and downs including blood transfusions, infections etc. she is now at home at last and putting on the weight.

We know how lucky we have been but your message still hits home to me.

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: JennyO
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 11:21 AM

I am expecting my first grandchild in about 4 months and, thinking about how I would feel, my heart goes out to you and your daughter. You will get through this, and there will be happy times in the future! Sending love from Australia.

Jenny

Subject: RE: I've just buried my grandson
From: Beccy
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 01:40 PM

Mantid- My little sister lost 2 babies this year, (her first two pregnancies) as well. The grief is not any less than had she birthed them at full term. I'm terribly sorry and I send my condolences to you and your daughter. Hadrian Daniel will be among the angels.
May God Bless and keep you,
Beccy