BS: Why I support disarming Iraq

Subject: RE: BS: Why I support disarming Iraq
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 12:58 PM

the only reason inspectors are in Iraq right now is because
of the threat of war from the US.
its one thing to march for peace, but where were the peace marches
when Saddam killed a 100,000 Kurds, or the thousands of innocent Iraqis.
Even the outgoing Czech President Vaclav Havel, when asked about the
current situation in Iraq, said that the world has changed drastically over the last decade or so - you now have rogue state
developing weapons of mass destruction, and terrorists willing to use them. If something isnt done - one day there will be
a nuke going off in a US or western city, (or it may be a nerve gas
attack, or bio, or perhaps a dozen airliners will be shot down in one day with stinger missiles - what will happen then to the airline industry and the western economies)
the simple fact is that terrorists require support of rogue states,
or lawless regions to operate from, and if the trend continues we should be prepared for the consequences.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I support disarming Iraq
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 12:55 PM

Looks like Mr. Krauthammer forgot to mention these bits of US history:

U.S. Connection in Weapons of Mass Destruction

By Robert Novak

Senator Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., a master at hectoring executive branch witnesses, asked Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld a provocative question earlier this month: Did the United States help Saddam Hussein produce weapons of biological warfare? Rumsfeld brushed off the Senate's 84-year old President pro tem like a Pentagon reporter. But a paper trail indicates Rumsfeld should have answered YES. An 8-year-old Senate report confirms that disease-producing and poisonous materials were exported, under U.S. government license, to Iraq from 1985 to 1988 during the Iran-Iraqs war. Furthermore, the report adds, the American-exported materials were identical to microorganisms destroyed by United Nations inspectors after the Persian Gulf War. The shipments were approved despite allegations that Hussein used biological weapons against Kurdish rebels and (according to the current official U.S. position) initiated war with Iran.

San Francisco Chronicle, September 27, 2002

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Subject: RE: BS: Why I support disarming Iraq
From: Frankham
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 12:35 PM

Krauthammer is a well-known hawk. However:
I think Iraq should be disarmed and would be OK with that if the US would disarm as well. The military solution in Bosnia and Serbia is a band aid on a large cultural sore and is by no means solved. It just isn't getting the press right now. Also, geopolitically, the Bosnia/Serbia issue and the Iraq situation is apples and oranges. What applies in one case doesn't always work in another. 22 Arab countries have met in Cairo to announce their solidarity to protect Iraq's borders. This didn't happen in Bosnia/Serbia. As I recall, that was a UN operation not a unilateral decision on Clinton's part. Besides, the inspections are working. If Saddam is cheating and hiding his weapons, it is now known world-wide. He is not Hitler, though. He's too cagey to attack without provocation because it's obviously not in his best interest to do so. Remember that with the rise of the Putsch and the Third Reich, Hitler was convinced that he could dominate the world. Saddam isn't interested in upsetting his dictatorial status-quo. But if the US attacks Iraq, it will give him the "moral" ammunition in the eyes of the Arab world to do damage. He is playing the Bush Administration for a fool by saying to his neighbors, look the US is just another imperial power who wants to boss you. You want that to happen to you? I think that the world would be surprised at his "allies". The way out of the quagmire is to let the UN inspectors do their necessary work and take time to get it right. Cowboy tactics will solve nothing but bringing American youth back in body bags and offering "freedom" to innocent Iraqi women and children by bombing them and calling it "collateral damage". Simplistic answers that the US should do what was applied in WWII make no sense.

Frank Hamilton

Subject: RE: BS: Why I support disarming Iraq
From: DougR
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 12:21 PM

Bagpuss: sounds to me as though those historians all went to the same University, and had the same history teacher. Interesting reading though.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Why I support disarming Iraq
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 12:06 PM

Charles Krauthammer is a warrior and he thinks like a warrior. Maybe that's the kind of thinking you want to listen to. But Mr. Krauthammer, like many warriors, is a one trick pony. Fighting is the only approach he knows for addressing problems.

I think it would be good for us to remember that disarming Iraq does not necessarily mean waging a first strike war against it.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I support disarming Iraq
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 11:28 AM

Those sound alot like real reasons... but with all due respect, they look poorly researched to me. I support disarming Bush, because he is just about the worst president in the history of this country. ttr

Subject: RE: BS: Why I support disarming Iraq
From: Bagpuss
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 11:27 AM

Louie Roy - heres a link to some opinions from historians on comparing Saddam to Hitler vs Nasser.

Blast from the Past

Subject: RE: BS: Why I support disarming Iraq
From: GUEST,Casual Observer
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 11:19 AM

One of the arguments against a war has been that it will destabilize the Middle East. If Saddam Hussein is allowed to continue doing what he's been doing, won't that destabilize the Middle East as well? (say, does anyone remember Kuwait?)

Because President Clinton didn't take this situation seriously, President Bush is now left with the cleanup, and Clinton supporters are complaining about it.

If your man had paid more attention to international affairs than to his Little Hobbit, we might not be having this conversation now.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I support disarming Iraq
From: GUEST,Louie Roy
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 11:10 AM

Everyone are entitled to their own opinion and I will state mine since this thread has been posted.We should learn from past history that we can't just stand idle and hope that the situation corrects itself.In 1936 Billie Mitchell made the statement (that if we don't quit shipping all of our scrap iron to Japan they will be sending it back to us in bombs)and for this statement he was court martialed but in 1941 his statement proved to be true and many lives were lost in WW2.Hitler also was building up his supreme power and taking over all the little countries in Europe and butchering all they Jewish people and the USA stood by and let this happen until he finally decided to take us on.It took 4 years and many lives to correct our ignorants.The same thing is taking place in Iraq today and if we don't take care of the problem and disarm him WW2 will look like a boy scouts meeting.The time is now not tomorrow to disarm Iraq.Louie Roy

Subject: RE: BS: Why I support disarming Iraq
From: GUEST,Old guy
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 11:05 AM

I agree with this except that I want to give Clinton credit for Bosnia and Serbia/Kosovo.

Those two military actions were successful and they are proof that the antiwar protesters are misguided.

Other than that I think Clinton was a lousy president. Somalia, aspirin factory bombings and some others were disasters.

I did not vote for him. I voted for old man Bush and George Bush.

Old Guy

Subject: BS: Why I support disarming Iraq
From: GUEST,Norton1
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 10:41 AM

Bracing for the Apocalypse

Charles Krauthammer
February 13, 2003

WASHINGTON--The domestic terror alert jumps to 9/11 levels. Heathrow Airport is ringed by tanks. Duct tape and plastic sheeting disappear from Washington store shelves. Osama resurfaces. North Korea reopens its plutonium processing plant and threatens pre-emptive attack. The Second Gulf War is about to begin. This is not the Apocalypse. But it is excellent preparation for it.

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