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Richie 23 Feb 03 - 09:45 PM
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Nigel Parsons 24 Feb 03 - 08:22 AM
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Subject: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: Richie
Date: 23 Feb 03 - 09:45 PM

My bluegrass band plays Jacob's Vision, a song we got off Ricky Skaggs and Kentucky Thunder Soldier of the Cross- with guest vocals from Ralph Stanley and George Shuffler (two-thirds of the trio on the original Stanley Brothers record).

Where did the Stanley Brothers get this old song? I guess it's a traditional fast waltz.

Thanks,

Richie


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Subject: RE: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: Richie
Date: 23 Feb 03 - 09:50 PM

Here's the chorus:

*Halleluyer to Jesus who died on the tree,
To raise up this ladder of mercy for me.
Press onward, climb upward, the top is in view,
There's a crown of bright glory waitin' for you.

*Hallejulah

This is related somehow to Jacob's Ladder songs.

-Richie


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Subject: RE: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Feb 03 - 10:51 PM

Hi, Richie - I don't think that one has been posted here. Can you post it?
Thanks.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: ADD: Jacob's Vision
From: Richie
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 07:54 AM

JACOB'S VISION

Chorus: *Hallelujah to Jesus who died on the tree,
To raise up this ladder of mercy for me.
Press onward, climb upward, the top is in view,
There's a crown of bright glory waitin' for you.

As Jacob was traveling was weary one day,
While at night on a stone for a pillow did lay
A vision appeared of a ladder so high,
It stood on the earth while the top reached the sky.

Chorus

This ladder is tall and yet so well made,
Stood thousands of years and never decayed,
High winds from the heavens they reel and they rock,
But the angels they guard it from botton to top.

Chorus

*Halleluyer

Notes: Recorded by Stanley Brothers; Ricky Skaggs Kentucky Thunder Soldier of the Cross- "Jacob's Vision" adds to the luster with guest vocals from Ralph Stanley and George Shuffler (two-thirds of the trio on the original Stanley Brothers record). Related to Jacob's Ladder.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 08:22 AM

Slightly longer version of Jacob's Ladder with four part hymn tune (Click on both thumbnails at foot of page as tune is split over two pages)

Nigel


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Subject: Lyr Add: Jacob's Ladder
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 08:25 AM

In keeping with the usual requests. I paste it here:

JACOB'S LADDER
Words: Traditional
Music: Traditional
Henry Ramsden Bramley and John Stainer, Christmas Carols New and Old
(London: Novello, Ewer & Co., ca 1871)

1. As Jacob with travel was weary one day,
At night on a stone for a pillow he lay,
He saw in a vision a ladder so high,
That its foot was on earth, and its top in the sky.

Chorus
Hallelujah to Jesus, who died on the Tree
And hath rais'd up a ladder of mercy for me,
And hath rais'd up a ladder of mercy for me.

2. This ladder is long, it is strong and well-made,
Has stood hundreds of years and is not yet decayed;
Many millions have climbed it and reached Sion's hill,
And thousands by faith are climbing it still· Chorus

3- Come let us ascend: alt may climb it who will;
For the Angels of Jacob are guarding it still:
And remember each step, that by faith we pass o'er,
Some Prophet or Martyr hath trod it before, Chorus

4. And when we arrive at the haven of rest
We shall hear the glad words, "Come up hither., ye blest,
Here are regions of light, here are mansions of bliss:"
O, who would not climb such a ladder as this? Chorus


NP


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Subject: RE: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: Richie
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 08:44 AM

Nigel,

Thanks so much,

It's interesting that it is listed a Christmas carol. I knew it was related to the Jacob's Ladder songs.

-Richie


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Subject: RE: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: masato sakurai
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 09:21 AM

Christmas Carols New and Old by the Rev. H. R. Bramley and Dr. John Stainer (1871) can be seen online (Click here).

XXXV. Jacob's Ladder (P. Hundley) (Click on PAGE to go to the next page).

Other editions (with different tunes) from American Memory:

Jacob's ladder; Christmas carol / by H. P. Danks (New York: Gordon, S. T., 1884)

Jacob's ladder / by Geo. Wm. Warren (Pond & Co., Wm. A., 1878)

~Masato


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Subject: RE: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: masato sakurai
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 09:23 AM

The link again: Jacob's ladder; Christmas carol / by H. P. Danks (New York: Gordon, S. T., 1884)


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Subject: RE: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: masato sakurai
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 09:44 AM

From Gary B. Reid's notes to The Stanley Brothers: The Early Years 1958-1961 (Stardy/King KBSCD-7000):
Of the song "Jacob's Vision," Ralph Stanley stated that we "learned (that) from Enoch Rose, he was a Free Will Baptist preacher from Caney Ridge, Virginia."
~Masato


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Subject: RE: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: Burke
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 10:11 AM

There's a version of this in the Episcopal Hymnal. I don't have it in front of me, but I think it may not have the chorus. IIRC it's listed as an English Folk tune.

There's also a 1959 arrangement of the Bramley/Stainer tune in the Sacred Harp 1991 ed. (Red Book) It's a great favorite. Jacob's Vision p. 551.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: masato sakurai
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 10:39 AM

Thanks, Burke, for referring to the Sacred Harp version. It's interesting.

The Hymnal 1982 version of "Jacob's Ladder" (No. 453: "Jesus Christ our Lord") has the refrain ("Alleluia to Jesus, who died on the tree...). It is also in The Oxford Book of Carols (1929, No. 58; NOT in The New Oxford Book), with a note: "This is apparently a carol to which new words were fitted under the influence of the Methodist revival. It is printed here with its traditional melody, which Stainer made familiar in 1871." Erik Routly (in The English Carol, p. 129) says it is "a carol genuinely of the Evangelical Revival."

~Masato


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Subject: Lyr Add: JACOB'S VISION
From: masato sakurai
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 07:41 PM

From The Sacred Harp (1991 Edition), pp. 551-52:

          JACOB'S VISION
(Hymns, Evangelical Association, 1850; Arr.-Margeret Wright, 1959)

1. As Jacob with travel was weary one day,
    And at night on a stone for a pillow he lay,
    There he saw a vision a ladder so high,
    That itsfoot was on earth and its top reached the sky.

    Chorus:
    Alleluia to Jesus who died on the tree,
    And hath raised up a ladder of mercy for me,

2. The ladder is long, it is strong and well-made,
    It stood thousands of years, and is not yet decayed;
    Many millions have climbed it and reached Zion's hill,
    And the thousands by faith are now climbing it still.

3. Come, let us ascend! All may climb it who will,
    For the angels of Jacob are guarding it still.
    There are regions of light, there are mansions of bliss,
    Oh, then, who would not climb such a ladder as this?


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Subject: RE: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: Richie
Date: 24 Feb 03 - 11:03 PM

The Stanley/Skaggs version is in 3/4 time while the origin tune posted by Nigel and Masato is in 2/4 time and the melody is different.

Is the Sacred Harp version in any other editions? Is it in 3/4 time?

-Richie


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Subject: RE: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: masato sakurai
Date: 25 Feb 03 - 07:20 AM

As Burke says, the Sacred Harp version is an arrangement of Bramley & Stainer's melody (written in 4/4, though). It is probably only in that 1991 edition (not in the Revised Cooper Edition nor in the 1860 edition).

One correction in my post above (Date: 24 Feb 03 - 09:21 AM): P. Hundley is the illustrator.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: Burke
Date: 25 Feb 03 - 10:05 AM

I'm not sure of all the dates but it would have been in the Denson revisions of the Sacred Harp after 1959. I think there was one around 1960 or 61 that added a fair number of new tunes. My first Denson Sacred Harp had a 1970's date, but looking at the Chronological index
I see it had no tunes dated after 1966, when 4 tunes were added.

All the tunes with later dates were added in the 1991 edition.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: Burke
Date: 26 Feb 03 - 06:18 PM

Richie, I think it most likely that one of the Stanley brothers actually wrote the tune. It's not any of the published versions linked to.

The notes to The Early Years set, that Masato quotes above, lists Ruby Rakes, as the source where in other places it says Traditional. Lots of the tracks on the CD's list Ruby Rakes as the source. "Curiously, Carter used the pen name Ruby Rakes, his half sister on his mother's side of the family, to identify contribution to the song [a different one]. The name Ruby Rakes appeared on nearly all of Carter and Ralph's compositions during their first few years at King." p.2 of notes.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: Richie
Date: 27 Feb 03 - 11:34 AM

Burke,

Masato posted above: Ralph Stanley stated that we "learned (that) from Enoch Rose, he was a Free Will Baptist preacher from Caney Ridge, Virginia.

I guess this is Stanley's version that he learned from Enoch Rose.

Thanks for your help,

-Richie


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Subject: RE: Origin: Jacob's Vision
From: GUEST,kim
Date: 04 Aug 10 - 04:39 AM

I just ran across this while searching for the lyrics to Jacobs Ladder. I think its pretty awesome that its on here because I am from dickenson co. Va where Ralph Stanley is from and Enoch Rose is my ancestor. This song is very powerful and brings back great memories. My dad used to sing and play this song all the time. Larry Sparks does a wonderful job on this song in my opinion his is much better than all other versions.. if u haven't heard it check it out.


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