Subject: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Murray MacLeod Date: 01 Mar 03 - 07:34 PM Just thought I would maintain the tradition of starting a new thread each year asking for St Patrick's Day songs . So, what songs will YOU be singing this coming St Patrick's Day.? Be prepared for LOADS of links to previous threads .... Murray |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: GUEST Date: 01 Mar 03 - 08:15 PM The usual: The Minstrel Boy, Black 47 Paddy Dear - Shamrock is Forbid Kevin Barry Sing of Ireland Danny Boy Beer, Beer, Beer Irish Free State Last Night I Had a Happy Dream Blood Red Roses Galway Bay My Wild Irish Rose Sing Irishman Sing Wild Colonial Boy |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: mg Date: 01 Mar 03 - 08:16 PM Whatever you do, don't sneer at the songs people want to hear. They want to hear them because they love them. If you don't love the particular genre of Irish-American songs, commonly hauled out on St. Patrick's Day, then find a group of people on that day that doesn't want to hear them. You (generic you) do not need to say that's not what they sing in Ireland, that there are far more respectable Irish (or Irish-American songs) to sing that are more socially acceptable, that many were written by German Americans or whatever, that they are derived from (gasp) music hall songs, that they are maudlin, mawkish, contribute to Irish stereotyping, and that you don't know the words to Irish Eyes if in fact you do. Here is my number: 360-665-4999. If you want to hear one of them and I happen to know it I will gladly sing it to you. Pass them on. It's part of a proud tradition that unfortunately got broken by nasty things like famines etc. so we don't have the old old songs with us passed down in our families. The only two songs my father ever sang were MacNamara's Band and Jim O'Shea. Make fun of them if you will. mg |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 01 Mar 03 - 08:20 PM Any of the good old rebel songs that set the scene by enumerating the nefarious deeds of the cowardly-moustach-twirling Englishmen against the Irish peasantry.
Sincerely, |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Hrothgar Date: 01 Mar 03 - 10:09 PM Isn't there a British military march called "St Patrick's Day?" |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 02 Mar 03 - 04:13 AM The Bantry Girl's Lament is lovely, and underperformed. Along with other patriots, Keith. |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: winterchild Date: 02 Mar 03 - 04:48 AM Are there any songs about _ST PATRICK_?? Even irreverant ones? If not, maybe someone should write it; like those infrequent new X-mas songs, it's sure to be a hit, year after year after year, if only one day a year! ;) WinterC |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: GUEST,WillyMcBoyne Date: 02 Mar 03 - 04:55 AM Come St Mick's Day I always sing 'I wear the orange sash that my grandfather wore.' There is also a lot of good marching songs celebrating the victory of King William at the Battle of the Boyne. |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: GUEST,WillyMcBoyne Date: 02 Mar 03 - 07:54 AM I can't remember the title, but me and my freinds use to sing this song on St Paddy's Day. "I saw this mick, He made me feel sick So I hit him with a brick Ahh, the poor f*****g mick." |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: leprechaun Date: 02 Mar 03 - 12:49 PM What mary garvey said. |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: mg Date: 02 Mar 03 - 02:03 PM I should add they don't just want to hear them..they want to sing them. And we have such a short unbroken tradition of songs that we as Americans, or Irish-Americans in particular on St. Patrick's Day, know and sing, that we shouldn't kill a single one of them as long as anyone wants to sing them. Naturally, this is because most immigrants to America did not speak English..so most songs of most cultures have either been lost entirely due to the vigorous and often abusive efforts to get people to speak English and also deny their heritages. Plus of course there was great intermarriage among groups. Lots of factors..world wars, radio, t.v....who knows. But we have a few common threads and we shouldn't lose them ..or lose them personally if we find them beneath our dignity, but we shouldn't impose our views on others as long as no one gets hurt by anything. How can a few choruses of My Father's Old Shilleleigh actually hurt anyone? mg |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: GUEST Date: 02 Mar 03 - 02:28 PM house of orange |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: GUEST,Patriotmissile Date: 02 Mar 03 - 03:08 PM What's wrong with singing American songs? They are better than Irish songs. |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Desert Dancer Date: 02 Mar 03 - 03:42 PM My mostly old-time band is performing at a festival associated with the local parade. There'll be two bands who play very Irish stuff and probably none of the chestnuts (except that one has a trained tenor who'll undoubtedly do Danny Boy), so we're doing just American Irish (and not quite Irish) stuff, for something different, including the stuff my parents (who weren't very Irish) loved: Molly Malone When Leaving Dear Old Ireland (The Three Leaved Shamrock) Old Lady & the Devil Acres of Clams Drill Ye Tarriers Black Jack Davey Sailor's Prayer (to cover the sea song and drinking song requirement in one) Last Winter Was a Hard One Green Grow the Lilacs Coleraine jig Sheebeg & Sheemore waltz Southwind waltz My great grandfather was Scotch-Irish from county Tyrone, but that doesn't mean I need to get nasty about national wear-green day. ~ Becky in Tucson |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: GUEST,Crazy Little Woman Date: 02 Mar 03 - 09:52 PM Banish Misfortune Battle of Aughrim The Basket of Turf Red-haired Boy The Green Mountain (Maid Behind the Bar) The Old Horned Sheep Kitty McGee The Wee Lass on the Brae The Kesh Jig Irish Washerwoman and for our American number, The Devil's Dream Catch our act at the St Regis fish fry in Raytown, Missouri, Friday (of course it's a Friday)March 14th. |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Genie Date: 03 Mar 03 - 12:19 AM Well, my paid St. Pat's gigs are in retirement communities in the US, so my list of possible songs to play includes a lot of the 'Irish songs they want to hear, e.g.: The Same Old Shillelagh The Wearin' O' The Green MacNamara's Band Danny Boy Galway Bay My Wild Irish Rose Cockles and Mussels Peg O' My Heart Mother Machree When Irish Eyes Are Smiling Harrigan A Little Bit Of Heaven Fell Peggy O'Neill The Rose of Tralee Sweet Rosie O'Grady The Kerry Dance Where The River Shannon Flows Who Threw The Overalls In Mistress Murphy's Chowder? It's A Great Day For The Irish How Are Things In Glocca Morra? I'll Take You Home Again, Kathleen Gilgarra Mountain Maggie Then I have my other list - songs that may be a little less known to my audiences but which I like to sing and from which I always throw in a few: The Mountains O' Mourne Come Back, Paddy Reilly Roddy McCorley Gilgarra Mountain Johnny Lad Star Of The County Down My Isle Of Innisfree No Irish Need Apply Black Velvet Band Mick McGuire Buttermilk Hill Finnegan's Wake If I Knock The "L" Out Of Kelly The Minstrel Boy, Molly Malone The Devil and the Farmer's Wife Blow The Candles Out I'll Tell Me Ma Bridget O'Malley Slievenamon Drill Ye Tarriers Black Jack Davey Hares On The Mountain Shool Aroon The Recruitin' Sergeant Mary Mack The Wild Rover In jam sessions in March, I usually sing songs from this latter list. |
Subject: Lyr Add: SAINT PATRICK WAS A GENTLEMAN From: GUEST,Donal Date: 03 Mar 03 - 12:22 AM As regards actual songs ABOUT St. Pat, there's this. Don. SAINT PATRICK WAS A GENTLEMAN
Saint Patrick was a gentleman and came of decent people
CHORUS: Success attend Saint Patrick's fist, for he's a decent saint O
The Wicklow hills are very high, and so's the hill of Howth O
No wonder that we Irish boys should be so gay and frisky,
Then should I be so fortunate as to go back to Munster, (1) My love, my treasure.
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Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Nigel Parsons Date: 03 Mar 03 - 04:41 AM Singing in British pubs this year, watch out for an invasion of cheap plastic bodhrani(Plural?). They are being given away by Guinness if you buy 5 pints in a participating outlet. There is no restriction about issuing them only to those with a sense of rhythm! Nigel |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Mark Cohen Date: 03 Mar 03 - 05:20 AM Well, my sort-of-becoming-an-Irish-band-despite-a-dearth-of-good-musicians Irish band will be playing at Kelley O'Neill's in Waikiki, and I have a question. And I don't feel quite so bad about asking it now, after reading Mary's post. Does anyone have a good set of guitar chords to "Danny Boy"? We're sure we're going to be asked to do it, and need to be prepared. I have an arrangement that's OK, but I think it could sound better, and I'm not a good enough musician (see above) to find the chords. One thing that's kind of interesting is that they throw in a VIb chord (i.e., in D it would be Bb) on the last note, before resolving to the tonic. I don't remember having heard that before, though it sounds like it would have been a common Tin Pan Alley trick. So, any suggestions? Aloha, Mark M. Cohan |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: GUEST,allen woodpecker Date: 03 Mar 03 - 08:12 AM Don't forget "Patrick's Arrival" by Christy Moore, I think. a.w. |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Declan Date: 03 Mar 03 - 10:06 AM Allen, You beat me to it. The lyrics are on this thread attributed to William Maginn. I was under the impression (based on the sleeve notes from the Prosperous album) that Christy had written the words himself. He certainly claims to have set the lyrics to the tune of "The night before Larry was stretched". I don't know what the album credits have to say about authorship. This is about the only song that I do around Paddy's Day that I don't normally sing at other times of the year. |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: JohnnyBeezer Date: 03 Mar 03 - 11:40 AM Hi Becky It's SCOTS-IRISH! Scotch is a very nice drink Best regards Johnny N |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: JohnnyBeezer Date: 03 Mar 03 - 11:48 AM Re-Hi Becky I've just read what I have written. Sorry to be a PEDANTIC TWAT!!! All the best Johnny N |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Desert Dancer Date: 03 Mar 03 - 12:02 PM Johnny N, On the pedantic front, I've read (p'raps in this here forum) that, once upon a time, it was Scots to be Scotch, and that the differentiation arose in the latter half of the last century. My 79-year-old mother has always spoken of her grandfather as Scotch-Irish... and herself as Heinz 57 (a mix, that is including "Pennsylvania Dutch", which has nothing to do with Holland, of course). After all, they drink whiskey in Scotland, not Scotch, right? :-) ~ Becky |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Declan Date: 03 Mar 03 - 12:05 PM Re my post above it was on "The Iron behind the Velvet" album by Christy Moore rather than "Prosperous" |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Declan Date: 03 Mar 03 - 12:09 PM Becky, To be even more pedantic they drink Whisky in Scotland. They drink Whiskey in Ireland. |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Desert Dancer Date: 03 Mar 03 - 12:17 PM Ha! I had a feeling I'd get in trouble with that. Must be because Jameson's is what I drink lately, when I'm drinking that sort of brew (which isn't often). ~ Becky |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar Date: 03 Mar 03 - 12:31 PM And of course, DD, it's not a brew but a distillate ;-) Any suggestions for a slow air to play on the pipes during a Patrick's Day Mass? In previous years I've done Easter Snows and Port na bPúcaí (cue thunderbolt from Heaven) and Loch na gCaor, for reasons either purely musical or so obscure that I won't bore you with them. Hrothgar, there is indeed a set dance tune called "St Patrick's Day" which is in jig time and was/is used by one of the Irish Regiments of the British Army. It's also used by whatever is left of the bands in the Irish Army. For the modern, combat-booted soldier marching on an asphalt or concrete surface, jigs are generally much better than quadruple-time marches: there's more of a swing to them, and they don't take themselves so seriously. |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: GUEST,Martin Ryan Date: 03 Mar 03 - 01:33 PM Mary You mention a song called "Jim O'Shea"? Don't think I've heard of it - any detials? Thanks Regards |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Desert Dancer Date: 03 Mar 03 - 02:38 PM An Pluiméir Ceolmhar - Aargh! Dangerous waters, these! ~ Becky |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: mg Date: 03 Mar 03 - 09:48 PM here is a url for Jim O'Shea..I knew a very abbreviated version. I don't sing it because I think it would be offensive today...probably was then too.. http://www.kinglaoghaire.com/ballads/ivegotri.html |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: GUEST,Martin Ryan Date: 04 Mar 03 - 06:15 AM Thanks for that, Mary. There's the ghost of another song with a similar theme rolling around my head - but I certainly haven't heard this one. Regards |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Hrothgar Date: 04 Mar 03 - 06:40 AM Crazy Little Woman, how did "Acres of Clams" get into the act? All the others have some reason for being in an Iish bracket, but that? Still a good song though. Too good for the Irish? :-) |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Desert Dancer Date: 04 Mar 03 - 01:52 PM Hrothgar - She may be Crazy, but I'm the one who listed Acres of Clams - it's to the tune of Rosin the Beau, which has American origins (at least according to printing records) but Irish associations, and perhaps Irish roots for the tune... We're doing the Old Settler's Song, not the Charlie King one, so it fits (without sitting on the suitcase too heavily) in with the Irish-American-immigration theme. Get it? ~ Becky |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Desert Dancer Date: 04 Mar 03 - 01:52 PM Plus, one of our players spent a long time in Seattle, before moving to the sunny south. ~ Becky |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Mark Cohen Date: 05 Mar 03 - 04:16 AM Guess nobody has chords to Danny Boy, then, huh? Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Teribus Date: 05 Mar 03 - 10:18 AM St Patrick's Day Songs: And no one has mentioned the most popular song in the world: "A Nation Once Again" by the Wolfe Tones - recently decommissioned Republican Band. |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Declan Date: 05 Mar 03 - 12:21 PM Unfortunately, they haven't gone away you know. In fact there's two of them now ! |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Cluin Date: 05 Mar 03 - 12:32 PM "It's Not Easy Being Green" |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Beccy Date: 05 Mar 03 - 01:21 PM I'll be singing The Night Pat Murphy Died The Old Black Rum Irish Paddy Excursion Around the Bay Lukey ...and others... Mark- If you have any luck with the stellar Danny Boy chords, please share... My only version comes from a "Wee Sing" music book that belongs to me kids. |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: GUEST,ClaireBear Date: 05 Mar 03 - 04:50 PM The other "Saint Patrick Was a Gentleman" (a toast): Saint Patrick was a gentleman who through strategy and stealth Drove all the snakes from Ireland -- here's a bumper to his health. But not too many bumpers, lest we lose ourselves and then Forget the good Saint Patrick and see the snakes again. |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Frankham Date: 05 Mar 03 - 05:34 PM Here in the States, St. Pat's day is generally celebrated by the singing of what has been called "Oirish" songs...that is songs of tin pan alley and not the traditional songs of Ireland. Usually St. Pat's day is complemented by green beer and plastic bowler hats and an excuse to tie one on. Some of these Tin Pan Alley songs in my view are pretty good. Danny Boy as Londonderry Aire recently renamed Derryaire (as in she had a London derryaire) is a venerable tune as is the Rose of Tralee and then the lovely Thomas Moore's songs which are not Tin Pan Alley but associated with American parlor music of the 1800's. A Little Bit of Heaven and I'll Take You Home Again, Kathleen are staples and reflect the repitiore of John MacCormick ( a fine tenor). Has Anyone Here Seen Kelly and the George M. Cohan songs are usually sung as listed above in other posts. I think that St. Pat's day might be a good opportunity to intersperse authentic and beautiful traditional Irish songs along with the Tin Pan Alley staples. Anyway, on a St. Paddy's gig, that's what we try to do. Frank Hamilton |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: GUEST,Crazy Little Woman Date: 05 Mar 03 - 08:33 PM 1. Who was it that asked for songs to play in church? How about St Columba (The king of love my shepherd is) or the tune borrowed for "Morning is Broken." I can't believe I cannot recall the real name of that tune! 2. As for Acres of Clams, we shall be surrounded by acres of fish. It's a Friday in Lent, you know. So we are making a sacrifice by having a big party. 3. I thought about putting the chords for Danny Boy on this page, but it's too complicated. Try searching for "The Londonderry Air." Same melody. |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: mg Date: 05 Mar 03 - 09:26 PM Surely you will have a dispensation on St. Patrick's Day to eat meat? We always got one. Better check that out. It is a feast day. mg (And I do not refer to the songs of my ancestors as Oirish. And I doubt any of them ever owned plastic hats). |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Mark Cohen Date: 06 Mar 03 - 12:42 AM Friday? I thought March 17 was on a Monday. Or is it different on the other side of the world? Aloha, Mark |
Subject: Lyr Add: DÓCHAS LINN NAOMH PÁDRAIG From: GUEST,Philippa Date: 06 Mar 03 - 08:39 AM specific mention of St Pat in The Dear Little Shamrock St Patrick's Day The Hat My Father Wore here's one in Irish DÓCHAS LINN NAOMH PÁDRAIG Dóchas linn Naomh Pádraig Aspal mór na hÉireann Ainm oiric glégeal Solas mór an tsaoil é 'S é a chloígh na draoithe Croithe dúra gan aon mhaith D'isligh dream an díomais Tré neart Dé ár dtréanfhlaith. Sléibhte, gleannta, máighe 'S bailte mór' na hÉireann Ghlan sé iad go deo dúinn. Míle ghlór dár naomh íl Iarraimid ort, a Phádraig, Guí orainne, Gaela, Dia linn lá 's oíc 'S Pádraig Aspal Éireann. the tune is published in Eithne and Brian Vallely, "Learn to Play the Fiddle with Armagh Piper's Club" |
Subject: Lyr Add: DÓCHAS LINN NAOMH PÁDRAIG From: GUEST,Philippa Date: 06 Mar 03 - 08:46 AM some letters are missing above, in "dhíl" and "oíche2, second verse Dóchas linn Naomh Pádraig Aspal mór na hÉireann Ainm oiric glégeal Solas mór an tsaoil é 'S é a chloígh na draoithe Croithe dúra gan aon mhaith D'isligh dream an díomais Tré neart Dé ár dtréanfhlaith. Sléibhte, gleannta, máighe 'S bailte mór' na hÉireann Ghlan sé iad go deo dúinn. Míle ghlór dár naomh dhíl Iarraimid ort, a Phádraig, Guí orainne, Gaela, Dia linn lá 's oíche 'S Pádraig Aspal Éireann. |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: MMario Date: 06 Mar 03 - 08:48 AM I have to dredge up one of my old tapes from Ren-faire; I love the "St. Pat's Day Polka" by Brian Leo |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: Declan Date: 06 Mar 03 - 12:35 PM CLW, The hymn with the air of "morning is broken" is very appropriate as the words are taken from a prayer called St Patrick's Breastplate which starts with the line "Christ be before me, Christ be beside me". I don't have the full words, but I bet someone around here does. |
Subject: RE: St Patrick's Day Songs ? From: MMario Date: 06 Mar 03 - 12:46 PM Breasplate thread |
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