Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song

Subject: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: GUEST,zakley
Date: 09 Mar 03 - 12:47 AM

Hey all. I was told that if this song actually exists, y'all will know where to find more info on it. It's an old Irish song my grandfather used to sing. All I know of it is it starts out something like, "hello mrs Flynn, would you care to let me in...and then something about throwin down a key?

Thanks in advance,

ZAK

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: GUEST,Les the thread jumper
Date: 09 Mar 03 - 09:20 AM

Sounds a bit like those Doo me amma songs, 'and she dropped down the key and she let me come in......'

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: GUEST,zakley
Date: 09 Mar 03 - 06:15 PM

Umm what is that?

ZAK

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: Snuffy
Date: 09 Mar 03 - 07:36 PM

Zak

DUMIAMA DINGIAMA DUMIAMA DAY in the Digital Tradition. Key in #416 in the Lyrics & Knowledge Search box for other versions

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 09 Mar 03 - 08:16 PM

It sounds more like American vaudeville "Cod Irish", but you never know. I haven't found anything useful, I'm afraid.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Mar 03 - 09:22 PM

"Irish" is as "Irish" does.........I didn't find anything either.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: Night Owl
Date: 09 Mar 03 - 09:24 PM

Malcolm....what is "Cod Irish"???

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 09 Mar 03 - 09:41 PM

Fake Irish songs, often written for the American nostalgia market; If You're Irish Come into the Parlour and the like. Also called "Stage Irish", "Oirish" and so on. Popular, but bogus.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: GUEST,ZAKLEY
Date: 09 Mar 03 - 10:14 PM

Yeah...I suppose it could be Cod Irish considering there a'int nuttin on this song as far as anyone can see. Any suggestions on how to find out more? I'd ask my grandfather, but alas I cannot.

ZAK

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Mar 03 - 12:07 AM

Until the last decade with a resurgence of Celtic popularity, "Cod Irish" was pretty much all that was available and is still what many people refer to when talking twith me about my performing trad Irish/Celtic.

pax yall

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 10 Mar 03 - 01:05 AM

I'd put the general commercial availability of genuine Irish material ("Celtic" is a term so ambiguous and misused as to be best avoided most of the time, I think) thirty or more years earlier than "the last decade" (disregarding for the moment all the instrumental recordings of the 1920s and '30s), but perhaps things were different in the US.

Anyway, all that is rather beside the point. Assuming that we're looking for a commercial composition, perhaps early 20th century and made in America (by no means certain, but still, I think, likely), does anyone have any further ideas?

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: Blackcatter
Date: 10 Mar 03 - 02:16 AM

Zakley -

I haven't found anything - can you give us a bit more of the lyrics? Can you recall the plot of the song (what happens - who is Mrs. Flynn? Is it a funny song? A love song? Is Mrs. Flynn in the IRA? etc.) Was your Grandfather Irish? Did he typically sing other Irish songs?

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Malcolm -

I tend to use the term Celtic, rather than Irish, because I don't just sing Irish songs, I sing Scots, Welsh, English, Breton, Australian, Canadian, and U.S. songs. Most of the songs are in the genre of "Celtic" in that the writers come from Celtic traditions or are writing in a tradiotional "Celtic" style (as opposed to bluegrass, klezmer, etc. True, it may not accurately describe anything, but people in the U.S. are familiar with the term and typically understand what I'm talking about when I use it.

And yes, Irish, etc. music goes back further than the past decade, but trust me, at least in Florida, it was almost impossible to find even Chieftains albums pre 1990. A few big movies - especially "Far and Away" - as well as the popularity of Riverdance caused a new popularity. All of a sudden, CD stores began adding traditional Irish music to their "World Music" section (typically populated with Reggae, and Latin albums). By the mid 1990s, Larger stores put in their own Irish (and many times Celtic) sections with ten to twenty different artists. Irish groups began getting national coverage, Clannad's music was in adverts, the Chieftains performed on the David Letterman show, etc.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: GUEST,ZAKLEY
Date: 10 Mar 03 - 10:47 AM

My grandfather was not Irish. He raised my mom in brooklyn and probably brought the song home after being in WW2. He also used to sing k-k-k-Katy, and some others that I don't remember. More about the song..well, it seemed a bit silly and love like to me. I don't think it's to do with the IRA at all, although who knows. The tune I remember is sort of jaunty.

Da da da nrs flynn,
Would you care to let me in
da da da da da da dee


Not like that helps at all i'm sure.

ZAK

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: pattyClink
Date: 10 Mar 03 - 02:56 PM

Sorry we haven't been able to track it down, I tried a few sites I thought might have it.

Does anyone remember the fellow who posted a link months ago to a site where he had keyed in his dad's vast collection of Irish songs? I didn't find it too useful because there were no melodies, but it sounds like it might have this song in it.

Anybody book mark that place?

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: Declan
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 04:42 AM

Could be a version of Little Bridget Flynn by Percy French? The lyrics don't match what you've posted but the air seems to match your da da da da dees.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 05:08 AM

I'm not having any luck with this one either.

Regards

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: GUEST,ZAKLEY
Date: 11 Mar 03 - 01:04 PM

I may have to just walk into every Irish pub I see and ask the old timers there. ;)

ZAK

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: David Ingerson
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 01:10 PM

I don't have access to my library right now but I do have several books that might have a song like that. I'll see what I can find.

DAvid

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 01:27 PM

Probably little help, but I remember a recording of a vaudeville routine. One dance and patter man would ask a question of Mr. (or Mrs.) Flynn, get an answer, then both would dance and sing a verse. The procedure was then repeated through several verses.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: pattyClink
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 02:03 PM

ah-hah, now we're getting somewhere! Like the Mr. Interlocutor in the minstrel show, a question and answer song.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 03:13 PM

this isn't it but it's fun

Subject: Lyr Add: SEVEN OLD LADIES
From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 03:14 PM

I meant this:

SEVEN OLD LADIES

CHORUS: Oh dear, what can the matter be?
Seven old ladies stuck in the lavat'ry.
They were there from Sunday to Saturday,
And nobody knew they were there.

The first to go in was old Mrs. Flynn.
She prided herself on being so thin,
But when she sat down, she fell right in,
And nobody knew she was there.

The next to go in was old Mrs. Humphrey.
When she sat down, she got cosy and comfy,
But when she stood up, she couldn't get her bum free,
And nobody knew she was there.

The next to go in was old Mrs. Dickel,
Who hurdled the door 'cause she hadn't a nickel.
She got her foot caught. Oh, what a pickle!
And nobody knew she was there.

The next to go in was old Mrs. Slaughter.
She was the Duke of Effington's daughter.
She went to pass some superfluous water,
And nobody knew she was there.

The next to go in was old Mrs. Brewster,
Who couldn't see as good as she used to.
When she sat down, she swore somebody goosed her,
And nobody knew she was there.

The next to go in was old Mrs. Fender,
Who went in to fix a broken suspender.
It snapped and injured her feminine gender
And nobody knew she was there.

The next to go in was old Mrs. Draper,
Who couldn't find the toilet paper.
All she could find was a rusty paint scraper,
And nobody knew she was there.

The next to go in was old Mrs. Murray,
Who had to go in a hell of a hurry.
When she got there, there was no need to worry,
And nobody knew she was there.

The last to go in was old Mrs. Mason.
There wasn't a place, so she went in the basin,
And that's the one that I washed my face in,
And nobody knew she was there.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for an old irish song
From: GUEST,ZAKLEY
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 03:44 PM

Cute song.

ZAK