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Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 12 Mar 03 - 03:41 AM
BanjoRay 12 Mar 03 - 05:33 AM
GUEST 12 Mar 03 - 05:55 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 12 Mar 03 - 06:22 AM
Nemesis 13 Mar 03 - 05:15 AM
JudeL 13 Mar 03 - 05:26 AM
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Subject: PEL debate on BBC TV Now.
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 03:41 AM

The new licensing bill is been discussed on BBC Parliament now.

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Subject: RE: PEL debate on BBC TV Now.
From: BanjoRay
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 05:33 AM

Check out the story in the Guardian:Peers amend PEL.

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Subject: RE: PEL debate on BBC TV Now.
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 05:55 AM

That Lord Mackintosh sounds like a nutter....

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Subject: RE: PEL debate on BBC TV Now.
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 06:22 AM

I reckon you are right GUEST. For the benefit of anyone that was unable to see/hear the debate,=Baroness Buscombe proposed an ammemndment [number 13), which would allow live music to be played in venues,providing that certain conditions were met ie all music should cease to be played at 11.30PM, that the venue should seat a maximum of 250 people.This would enable small venues such as folk, blues and jazz clubs to operate without additional problems re licensing, also it would enable restaraunts such as Pizza Express and similar establishments to provide live background music for customers without needing a special entertainments licence.As the bill currently stands it would be illegal for a restaraunt to provide a musician such as a guitarist or violinist to entertain diners during their meal.
Lord McKintosh argued against the ammendment because he reckoned it would encourage children to watch porn movies!

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Subject: RE: PEL debate on BBC TV Now.
From: Nemesis
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 05:15 AM

Lord McKintintosh needs to apply his arguments to the Licensing board that agrees such movies for release and video/outlets that rent them out...

Hille ..
... horrified that her (EX) childminder put on NIghtmare on Elm Street to entertain a bunch of 5 year olds and then followed it up with soft porn ... and currently boycotting the newsagents at the end of the road who have developed a customer-base for porn magazines such that the local beat Police are appalled .. yet can do nothing abouts complaints of the hardcore front covers because they are legal... (and complaints about the Dirty Mac brigade who come from far and wide and peruse the nubile schoolgirl customers as well as the Mags)

However, as the newsagents shows so little respect for customers sensibilities it is ironic that the schoolkids now show him so little respect in return that he has had to ban kids from the shop.

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Subject: RE: PEL debate on BBC TV Now.
From: JudeL
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 05:26 AM

Childhood is the time when we learn our unconscious value base. Although as an adult you can consciously choose things and after a very long time these choices become habits of thought, they never quite achieve the same instant gut reaction as the stuff we learn in childhood. When you interrupt or shorten or pervert that process it tends to have long lasting effects. This is the old "give me a child till he is 7 and I will show you the man" type stuff. The shopkeeper is reaping what he sowed. (sorry for the thread drift)

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