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Subject: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: GUEST,JudyR
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:14 AM

Just saw these today on another board -- where they're using the statements as an excuse to support their patriotism. I like the line I heard James Carville used today on "Crossfire" about the "Patriot Thought Police."
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Singer Travis Tritt Says Celebs Should Support Troops

Tuesday, March 18, 2003

HIRAM, Ga.; Singer Travis Tritt blasted fellow country singers the Dixie Chicks for criticizing President Bush, and said it's time for celebrities to start supporting the military troops in Iraq.

"The bottom line is ... what's going to happen is going to happen. To be a good American — regardless of which side you're on — you have to get behind President Bush. More important, you have to get behind the troops," the singer said recently.

Tritt also had some stern words for Dixie Chicks leader Natalie Maines, who during a recent concert in London said, "Just so you know, we're ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas."

"I think the comments were made primarily because it was in front of an audience that agreed with them," Tritt told Fox News on Tuesday. "But I think if you make those statements over there versus over here it is sort of cowardly and I think it was a cheap shot."

The Grammy-winning Dixie Chicks have repeatedly apologized for the statement, but Tritt said he has another idea for how they could make up for the anti-Bush statement.

"If the Dixie Chicks really wanted to do something to prove just how sorry they are about those statements, they would volunteer to go and perform at some military base," suggested Tritt.

Several radio stations in the nation have decided to boycott the Chicks, whose album Home recently won a Grammy.

After more than 250 listeners called Friday to complain about Maines' comments, WTDR-FM in Talladega, Ala., dropped the Dixie Chicks.

"We've had a huge listener reaction and movement against the statements," said Paul Williams of KPLX-FM in Dallas-Fort Worth, the nation's fifth-largest radio market.

Many celebrities, such as Martin Sheen and Susan Sarandon, have spoken out against the impending war with Iraq. Tritt says hearing celebs criticize military action hurts soldiers' morale when they are putting their lives on the line for the United States

"The last thing in the world that those people need to hear is every time they turn on the television or every time they turn on the radio is some half-cocked entertainer coming off and making statements against the actions that they're over doing under the direction of our commander-in-chief," Tritt said.

As for people who have strong feelings about a celebrity's remarks, Tritt has a suggestion for how Americans can make their voices heard.

"The best way to get an entertainer's attention is to hit them in their pocketbooks," he said.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


NEWS - Toby Keith Says Maines 'Has A Big Mouth'
03/17/2003

(3/17/03, 4 p.m. ET) -- Toby Keith told a room full of reporters before his Oklahoma City concert on Friday night (March 14) that Dixie Chick Natalie Maines has "got a big mouth."

Keith, who was responding to a question about Maines's recent negative comments about President Bush in London, said, "She's come after me before. She's got a big mouth."

Maines did make some negative comments about Keith shortly after the release of his song "Courtesy Of The Red, White & Blue," which was Number One on Billboard's Hot Country Singles & Tracks chart for several weeks.

"Don't get me started," Maines told the Los Angeles Daily News back in August 2002 about Keith's song. "I hate it. It's ignorant and it makes country music sound ignorant. It targets an entire culture--and not just the bad people who did bad things. You've got to have some tact. Anybody can write, 'We'll put a boot in your ass.' But a lot of people agree with it."

The Chicks' latest single, "Travelin' Soldier," sits at Number One this week on Billboard's Hot Country Singles & Tracks chart.

-- Nancy Brooks, Nashville

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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: GUEST,JudyR
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:16 AM

I'm not a guest. Guess I better re-register. Everytime I clean out my Temp. Files, this happens.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: JudyR
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 03:25 AM

How do I get this moved to the BS Forum???


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 03:31 AM

You can support your troops without supporting the war or the president (or in my case the prime minister). And how is that celebrities are less entitled to the same democratic rights as everyone else? Those who put them down for making political statements in the media are doing exactly the same thing, but believe they are entitled when others are not.

Who said "I don't agree with a word you say, but i'll defend to the death your right to say it"? I de believe it was a Fernchman!

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Bagpuss
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 05:08 AM

Just for fun....

From Specious Report:

Apology from Natalie Maines of Dixie Chicks


As a concerned American citizen, I apologize to President Bush because my remark was disrespectful. I now realize that whoever holds that office should be treated with the utmost respect.


I hope everyone understands, I'm just a young girl who grew up in Texas. As far back as I can remember, I heard people say they were ashamed of President Clinton. I saw bumper stickers calling him everything from a pothead to a murderer. I heard people on the radio and tv like Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson, Newt Gingrich and Trent Lott bad mouthing the President and ridiculing his wife and daughter at every opportunity.

I heard LOTS of people disrespecting the President. So I guess I just assumed it was acceptable behavior.


But now, thanks to the thousands of angry people who want radio stations to boycott our music because criticizing the President is unpatriotic, I realize it's wrong to have a liberal opinion if you're a country music artist. I guess I should have thought about that before deciding to play music that attracts hypocritical red necks.


I also realize now that I'm supposed to just sing and look cute so our fans won't have anything to upset them while they're cheating on their wives or getting in drunken bar fights or driving around in their pickup trucks shooting highway signs and small animals.


And most important of all, I realize that it's wrong for a celebrity to voice a political opinion, unless they're Charlie Daniels, Clint Black, Merle Haggard, Barbara Mandrell, Loretta Lynn, Ricky Skaggs, Travis Tritt, Hank Williams Jr, Amy Grant, Larry Gatlin, Crystal Gayle, Reba McEntire, Lee Greenwood, Lorrie Morgan, Anita Bryant, Mike Oldfield, Ted Nugent, Wayne Newton, Dick Clark, Jay Leno, Drew Carey, Dixie Carter, Victoria Jackson, Charleton Heston, Fred Thompson, Ben Stein, Bruce Willis, Kevin Costner, Arnold Schwartzenegger, Bo Derek, Rick Schroeder, George Will, Pat Buchanan, Bill O'Reilly, Joe Rogan, Delta Burke, Robert Conrad or Jesse Ventura.


God Bless America,


Natalie


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 05:24 AM

Well, that's what I said!

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: allanwill
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 08:25 AM

I think I like Natalie Maines.

Allan


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: JedMarum
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 08:33 AM

Did she really say this?


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Jeri
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 08:40 AM

Jed, it's from a site called "Specious Report."
Bagpuss, do you have a URL?

Yeah. It seems to me it's OK to rag on a president as long as you don't like him. It's only a matter of "being disrespectful to the office of" if he's not your guy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Bagpuss
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 08:42 AM

It's a spoof - I dont have the address for the site, as the text was sent to me in an email, but it should be easy to find.

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Greg F.
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 09:05 AM

Unfortunately, its not true. But it certainly is appropriate.br>
CLICK HERE

But you have to love the right-wing cry-babies (cry-bubbas?) who trashed Clinton, his entire family, and anyone he came in contact with for eight years and now whine, piss and moan about this. They're just not smart enough to see that they're canting hypocrites.

Best, Greg


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Kim C
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 09:50 AM

Steve, I believe that was Voltaire.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Pseudolus
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 09:59 AM

Steve,
   The difference between a celebrity making the statement and let's say ME making a statement is that the celebrity has direct access to the media. Nobody cares what I say, nor will they hear it. However, I do agree that they have the right to state their opinion. If it were me, I'd have to think it through to see what effect it might have on our troops before I said it.....but that's me.....

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 10:03 AM

AND - this being a free society we have the right to speak what we believe in response to what anyone else says. And we vote with our dollars. Just my opinion but I believe that the support faction in the USA has just outvoted the peace at any price groups. By a significant margin -

Must be the Bubba NASCAR folks again - and what the hell do they know. Idiots. All they've ever done is fight for their country in large numbers. Stupid unschooled jerks - how dare they oppose those who know better -


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Beccy
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 10:23 AM

Greg- The main (forgive the pun) difference between "trashing" the President when it was Clinton and "trashing" the President now is pretty obvious.

Clinton was being trashed for immoral personal behavior in a time of relative peace.

Maine trashed Bush from an overseas location during a time of global unrest. She did not have the courage to make her statement from, oh- say, Lubbock or Nashville...

Had she the spine and courage of her convictions to make a pronouncement like the one she did Stateside, I'd be much less irritated with her than I am now.

For now, I think Natalie Maine is a wuss or a dunderhead or both.

If she's really sorry she should forget the media apology and do some USO shows. That'd be proof that she not only feels bad about her comments, but wants to make amends.

Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Bagpuss
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 10:26 AM

I see - create some global unrest, because then people think it is wrong to criticise you...


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Beccy
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 10:31 AM

Give me a break, you know very well that's not what I said.

I didn't say it was wrong for her to criticize Bush- I said I thought it was COWARDLY to do so from an overseas stage to an audience that was NOT part of what she was criticizing. She can come back here and criticize Bush all she wants and I will support her right to do so. I may disagree with her, but I won't think she's a gutless wonder for doing so.

Additionally, her remark did not point out policy differences she had, it was simply a personal attack ("Just so you know, we're ashamed that the President is from Texas...")

Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Greg F.
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 10:54 AM

Clinton was being trashed for immoral personal behavior in a time of relative peace

You'd better go back and re-read the newspapers for those eight years, Beccy. You obviously missed quite a lot, or your're experiencing selective memory loss. Any of the major dailies have archives you can access on-line.

Long before the Blow Job Heard Round The World captured the neo-con imagination as a holy crusade, Clinton, and his wife, and his children, and his associates were PERSONALLY trashed on a daily basis for anything and everything they could think of or invent, true, falseor indifferent - from Whitewater to health care proposals to Vietnam, to accusations of murder, to what he did in college, etc. etc.- meaningless, venal garbage, most of it.

And now they whine when Bush & his junta are criticised for something substantive.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 10:58 AM

My GAWD! Travis Tritt is as inarticulate and chauvinistic as Dubya himself!

BOYCOTT THE DIXIE CHICKS (until they stop using such slick production values, and actually get a few wrinkles!)

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Grab
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:07 AM

Beccy, Britain is just as much in this as the US is, bcos Tony Blair is following GWB's lead. "Not part of it" - I don't think so.

As far as Mr. Tritt is concerned, I reckon the last thing the troops needs is some asshole entertainer saying about how glad he is all these guys are being sent over to be shot at, when the closest the entertainer's getting to the Middle East is Miami. I know how much I'd appreciate that.

Graham.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Beccy
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:07 AM

Greg,

Do I take you to mean that Clinton was blameless in bringing that criticism onto himself? Do you really think that it was MEANINGLESS that the President of the United States perjured himself, sexually harassed scores of women, diddled an intern, and was involved in illegal land deals?

Had that been Bush, would you have been so blithe?

As to the other things, nationalizing healthcare, midnight basketball, et al... those were differences in policy. I've been very clear that I think policy is ALWAYS fair game to criticize- on BOTH sides of the aisle.



Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Beccy
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:10 AM

Graham, I mean "not a part of" in as much as most Londoners did not have any part in getting Bush elected. I did not mean it to be a slight to the British involvement in the conflict. I should have made that more clear.

Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Bagpuss
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:13 AM

I thought most Americans didn't have any part in getting Bush elected....

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Beccy
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:15 AM

Gee- that's a really clever one, Bagpuss. I haven't heard that before.

:-)

Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Bagpuss
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:19 AM

Well if you will walk straight into them...


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Beccy
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:20 AM

Okay, Bagpuss. I shall rephrase...

...in as much as most Londoners are not members of the American electorate...

Better?


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Greg F.
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:30 AM

Beccy, why don't you check out those newspaper archives and then get back to me. As I said above, I'm referencing virtually continuous PERSONAL attacks( not only on Clinton himself, but his family and associates as well), most of them regarding entirely bogus accusations- not differences of "policy".


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Pseudolus
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:36 AM

Greg,
   I think you've missed Beccy's point. She wasn't saying that it was wrong to criticize the president, she said that it was cowardly to pick the venue and audience that she did...I happen to agree.


Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: beadie
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:47 AM

The question that comes to mind (and, I suspect, was part of the issue that caused Ms. Maines to make her statement), is, "if we are not to be permitted to dissent, or to live freely within the rest of the expressed protections of the Constitution, then what the HELL are the American Troops doing in harm's way? What are they fighting for, if not the freedom to criticize, challenge, and participate in our own government? If these freedoms are not part of the equation, then the guy who sent them off to fight and die is needlessly risking a lot more than his political future . . . and that shows a lack of support for their well-being."


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Greg F.
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:47 AM

...cowardly to pick the venue and audience that she did...

Is that because Britain and Blair have no involvement with the Bushite
agenda in Iraq, or because what's going on there and will be going on there impacts only the United States and not the rest of the world?


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Beccy
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:48 AM

Greg- I was not asleep or comatose during Clinton's campaign and subsequent Presidency. I paid attention to the papers and radio and television and magazine news.

You specifically mentioned healthcare reform as one of the subjects on which President and Mrs. Clinton were "attacked". For starters, they were both open to criticism on the subject because she chaired the closed-door committee looking into the feasibility of nationalizing healthcare. That makes her a target for vociferous criticism to those who vehemently disagree with the concept of nationalized healthcare. That she was appointed by her husband, the President, also leaves her open to criticism.

She was not appointed to leading some reading intiative. She was appointed to leading an initiative that would have affected a HUGE portion of our economy. That means she can be criticized- and yes, verbal criticism CAN get loud and ugly. Hey- that's our system.

Do you call those PERSONAL attacks? Or are you referring to the media laughing at Clinton's affinity for cheeseburgers and fries?

To what PERSONAL attacks do you refer? Do you refer to his "I-did-not-have-a" relationship with Ms. Lewinsky? He perjured himself in regards to that in a case that was brought against him by a woman who he sexually harassed. Which part of the criticism he invited by doing that was PERSONAL?

I could continue, but until you tell me specifically to what you refer, I shall digress.

Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Bagpuss
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:50 AM

Surely in terms of cowardice it doesn't matter what the venue and audience was, since it was reported widely in the US - so in effect they were the audience too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Greg F.
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:54 AM

I was not asleep or comatose during Clinton's campaign and subsequent Presidency...

All I can say is that the questions you pose, and the manner in which you pose them, would seem to belie this assertion.

Best, Greg


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Beccy
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 12:01 PM

Bagpuss- I would like to politely disagree with you. Her immediate feedback was from an audience that had no part in the American electoral system and therefore had no ability to affect the office of the Presidency of the United States of America. Surely, you agree that had she said that in front of an American audience, she may at least have had a little less immediate support.

Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 12:20 PM

The names I heard the Republicans called Hillary and the jokes they made about her and her husband were not differences in Policy.

It is not surprizing that Tritt and Keith would speak out in this way. Both have shamelessly boosted their careers by dwelling on and recording about 9/11. For them, the more war and controversy the better their careers. If anyone is a coward it is those to for kicking Natalie when she was down and after she had apologized.

There's nothing Cowardly about making a statement in London. Its not as if it was a secret.   I'm sure she realized that the word would get back to America. So what if she had said it in Nashville? or Austin? Do you think the news coverage would have been less? Do you think that people in Europe aren't told what happens here? Do you think they are not shaking their heads in bewilderment at the monumental childish of "Freedom Fries"?

If it is unpatriotic to disrespect the office of the president, Then it is unpatriotic. No excuses! No "but Clinton Did it himself", No "at time of crisis", The president is always dealing with a crisis. While Clinton was trying to deal with Saddam, Republicans were doing their best to distract him so that he could fail and they'd have more amunition for the next election. But now it isn't ok to do the same to Bush. What a steaming pile of bullshit!

What astounds me his how some people who call themselves "conservatives" can say such stupid, hyppocritical things and still be smug.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 12:21 PM

Pseudolus ... just skip back a few posts while I take tongue out of my cheek for a moment ... My point was that celebs get on the telly or the radio briefly once in a while (other than entertainment appearances) to spout off; DJs, anchor (wo)men, presenters and the rest have entire regular programs to voice their opinions: it's not a recipé for a balanced debate.

War is evil: I don't think there are many that would dispute that. In this case, it may the least of several alternative evils; I don't know, maybe GB & TB know something I don't. Whatever; our people -- UK and US -- are going into a dangererous situation not of their making, and I can't withhold my support for them, whatever I think about the situation, its causes and its creators.

Steve
PS. And who was it said "if you sit on the fence you get splinters in your arse"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 12:30 PM

FROM: The BS News Service
DATE: March 19, 2003

The Democratic Party has just announced that it will not field a candidate for President in 2004. Since it is in the nature of a political campaign to attempt to point out the faults and failings of one's opponent and, since a majority of the U.S. population has decided that George W. Bush is infallible and criticism of him is totally un-patriotic, the Democrats have decided that running a candidate against him would be an un-American activity.

In related news, the House of Representatives will vote later today on a bill that aims to repeal that silly part of The U.S. Constitution that calls for an elected Executive. If passed, as anticipated, Congress is expected to immediately proclaim Mr. Bush King for life.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 12:38 PM

Since when has it mattered a tinkers cuss, the opinions of celebrities???

More importantly, WHY should it matter??

-I- don't expect celebs to THINK at all... I expect them to sing, dance act, and look really great naked... that's their job...

I'll leave thinking to the people so qualified... just as soon as I find any...

"Do you really think that it was MEANINGLESS that the President of the United States perjured himself, sexually harassed scores of women, diddled an intern, and was involved in illegal land deals? "

Has there ver been an american president who didn't bust a few laws??? I'd be very surprised if there was...   I also wouldn't care that he did... He's the American President... It goes with the teritory...


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Pseudolus
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 01:22 PM

Bagpuss,
   I disagree. The fact that she used the venue and audience that she did WAS cowardly, the fact that she didn't think it would get back to the US was just stupid!

Greg,
   I believe it's cowardly because her attack was made from London and the person she was attacking was an ocean away. I never said anything about it being strictly an American issue nor was I excluding the UK. Somehow you concluded that from my remarks.

Steve,
   My only point about celebs is that yes, I totally agree they have the right to their opinion AND they have a right to express it in the media, however, their opinions have much more potential to have an impact on a soldier that hears it than if I were to make a statement to the media. If I WERE a celeb, I would be careful not to let that happen, but again, that's just how I would handle it....doesn't make it right or wrong, it's just me.

    By the way, your paragraph on War is Evil? I couldn't agree with you more!

   
Take Care,
Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Wesley S
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 01:46 PM

My goodness - are we still going on about this ? It seems like a tempest in a "D" cup if you ask me. Isn't there anything else more important to worry about ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: kendall
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:03 PM

My loyalty is to the USA. Not "resident" Bush. I'm not ashamed he is a Texan, I'm ashamed he is an American!


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:09 PM

Pseudolus, There is a concept you should become familiar with, Telecommunications. I'm sure the Dixie chicks are familiar with it. Look it up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: jimmyt
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:13 PM

I think it is perfectly in Mr Maines' Right to say what she said. I also see absolutely nothing wrong with those who disagree with her and think it was a cheap shot to respond with their wallets so that she, and all other " FOreign affairs Geniuses" who feel that they need to make a statement will realize that their actions and words can have consequences.

I remember cringing when people and the media took cheap shots at the Clintons. I happen to be a republican but I think it is wrong to show a lack of respect for our president, and saying things about his daughter is just plain mean. Having said that, I didn't vote for him, but he was my president, and he deserved my respect. I think the same about President Bush. He is my president and should be given the respect that that office deserves. As far as this Dixie Chick goes, well her quick apology when she realized the ramifications of her verbal indescretion pretty much moves her out of the realm of "hero", doesn't it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: DougR
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:15 PM

Jack the Sailor: and there is nothing smug or hypocritical about your statement about conservatives, right?

And I, for one, would be interested in your elaborating on your remarks about how Mr. Clinton was dealing with Saddam. It seems to me he did his best to avoid dealing with him the eight years he was in office. If he had, perhaps we wouldn't be facing the situation we are now.

As to the Dixie Chicken, she obviously had a right to say what she said. The people in American have a right to treat her disrespect any way they choose. They can boycott their performances if they don't like what she said, or those who applaud her can buy more tickets. Same for there CDs.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:21 PM

My guess is that she is not only NOT a hero (never fecking was) but probably a has been in the entertainment industry. Clinton Hammond is correct - get naked and make me smile. Otherwise STFU - -

And as far as the assertion above about the "shameless" amount of money made on 9/11 - guess you folkies have never made a dime off of tragedy?

Tritt and Keith have made numerous USO tours to the troops - and the USO does not pay a great deal - if anything. What have the Ditsy Clits done? Nada - zip - zilch -


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Pseudolus
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:23 PM

That's a pretty smartass answer Jack but I'll respond anyway.

It's not ME that needs to look it up, they're the ones that are apologizing now because somehow they were surprised by the reaction that the statement got! How could that be? Perhaps your sarcastic dagger is pointed in the wrong direction huh?


Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: JohnnyBeezer
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:27 PM

Folks
All this too shall pass.
Johnny N


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: Greg F.
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:27 PM

He may be YOUR Resident, Jim, but he sure as hell ain't mine. I remember this same crapola about Tricky Dick Nixon, even after it became abundantly clear that he belonged in a Federal penitentiary.

Let me get this right: if a turd were president, we should still respect it because of the office it holds and no matter what it does while in that office? I suppose Stalin and Hitler and Pol Pot, for example, then deserve our 'respect', because they were all heads of state?

I don't think so.


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: JohnnyBeezer
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:30 PM

Isn't this vilification of Bush and Tricky Dicky...and Reagan for that matter, more a reflection of your electorate's psyche than anything else.
You sometimes get what you deserve!
Johnny N


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Subject: RE: BS: Stars mouth off re Dixie Chicks
From: jimmyt
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 02:47 PM

Greg, I didn't say you have to agree, after all it is still a free country, but he is in fact your Resident (read President) if you are a citizen. But again, in such a civilized place as America, you are pretty free to voice your opinion. Like to see you do that in Iraq!


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