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artbrooks 27 Mar 03 - 06:01 PM
katlaughing 27 Mar 03 - 05:38 PM
SINSULL 27 Mar 03 - 05:21 PM
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MMario 27 Mar 03 - 04:37 PM
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Dead Horse 26 Mar 03 - 09:09 PM
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PeteBoom 26 Mar 03 - 08:05 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: artbrooks
Date: 27 Mar 03 - 06:01 PM

BTW, for those who may be interested, Central Avenue used to be called Route 66. It is both a main east-west arterial and the core of a busy shopping district. Since it is also the southern campus boundry, it is convenient for University of New Mexico students who want to protest something between classes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Mar 03 - 05:38 PM

Now, Sins, understand I am too YOUNG to know about that, BUT google says it was Will Hutchins. Who's he? **bg**


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Mar 03 - 05:21 PM

Sugarfoot was the name of one of those TV western serials. Anyone remember the star's name. Blond haired guy...


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Mar 03 - 04:43 PM

MMario, well you can just frigaporp that in yer pipe and smoke it!

My grand-nephew used to say "bucket" when he was really little and it was cute. As he got old enough to figure out the difference, my neice wished she'd never taught him that as an alternative. It didn't take too long, though, before he dropped it. Good thing it was before he started school!

Now, frael off!


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: MMario
Date: 27 Mar 03 - 04:37 PM

kat - that's just a bunch of felgarcarp and you freekin well know it!

My neice used to say "shugarfoot" (the name of a horse she met in montreal) but we all KNEW she what she meant.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Mar 03 - 04:31 PM

Beccy, there ya go again, being judgemental...Spaw's mom passed away a long time ago...

fuck is just a word that little minds decided should be a "bad" word

one could also say "feck" or, "eff" or, taking a cue from the sci-fi series Farscape, "frell" as in "frell off" or having a "frelling good time" but when you come down to it, they all mean the same thing...FUCK

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: PeteBoom
Date: 27 Mar 03 - 03:11 PM

Now, where's the "Nazism"? Requiring a permit before blocking a public through-way? Ya need one for festivals, parades and other functions that require rerouting of traffic and extra labor by city workers - why not for a demonstration where you are planning on blocking a road?    That is not uncommon in the US. Of course, maybe I'm seeing this from the lofty age that your ranting and non-sequitor arguments and generally immature behavior would indicate you have not reached.

The demonstrators/protestors etc., round here file and get a permit regularly. They show up with their placards and sing and what not and when they've made their point they go home...

Oh, wait... maybe you meant the Nazism was the story about the bones found in the woods possibly belonging to the guy who disapeared in '78. SEE?!?!?! I Told you the black helicopters were involved!


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: MMario
Date: 27 Mar 03 - 03:09 PM

hey DG! What's unusual about having to pay for the services that allow you to hold a function?

If I rent a hall for a meeting I pay for the use of the property and for the time of the employees.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: MMario
Date: 27 Mar 03 - 03:05 PM

? that reaction for a word elementary school students use on a frequent basis?


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: Beccy
Date: 27 Mar 03 - 02:55 PM

Spaw- Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? Yeeeeeeeesh.

Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST,Dreaded Guest
Date: 27 Mar 03 - 02:52 PM

Here you go, children. Write this one off to black helicopters and the X-files.

Albuquerque Nazism

This is so far beyond illegal it is disgusting. Just one of the new constitutional atrocities in the news today.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST,Dreaded Guest
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 10:25 PM

You folks are like children clinging to some blanket of security...everyone who offers menacing information is 'blackheliconspirufoalien'. Suck your thumbs and close your eyes and hug your blankey. And the only way you can relate the actual news articles and legislation (the things your LEADERS ARE TELLING YOU ON A DAILY BASIS), is to compare it to some movie.

The 5-year re-building of Iraq will cost 1.7 to 1.9 trillion US dollars. The Carlyle group (third largest defense contractor, owned by the Bushes and bin Ladens and others) just brokered all the 're-building' deals. With the money made off that brokering, they bought Universal Studios, to further extend their control of propaganda. Next they will receive hundreds of billions in fees for 're-building' Iran, and they will buy the whole freaking movie industry.

I'm just trying to figure out why you folks deny the obvious. Is it brainwashing? Fox and CNN and ABC are owned by the govt, and CBS and NBC soon will be with the crashing stock market, so maybe you really AREN'T able to see the obvious...result of too much propagandizing tube. But look at the piece about the Model States Act in Alabama and tell me how that is fanciful. It doesn't GET any more real than that, children.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: jimmyt
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 09:11 PM

right Dead Horse!!! Old Ironsides, she be!


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: Dead Horse
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 09:09 PM

Not so sure as I approve the destruction of the U.S.Constitution.
That is a fine old ship, and might be needed again afore long.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: jimmyt
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 08:33 PM

Hell, I need to read these completely fucked up threads more!! I have actually let this whacko get to me in threads where there was a thread of logic and rationality. Had I only known I could've enjoyed the whole thing!!! Thank God for Black Helicoptpers, Ringwaiths and long live the opportunity to have the kidnappings continue! Had I known this was an option I would have put my three up for kidnapping rather than raise them to adulthood


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 08:19 PM

I heard that too, Pete Boom. I understand they came up the Hudson and then subsurface through the lakes. Scary times, indeed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: PeteBoom
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 08:05 PM

"they will probably trace to people who know the truth"

NOT SO LOUD! The BLACK HELICOPTERS with the UN Army are flying over my house right NOW! Ya know, the BELGIANS have 3 DIVISIONS stationed in Camp Grayling in Northern Michigan. They're waiting for orders from New York to take over.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 07:33 PM

I believe you. Keep posting. Because it is un-believable makes it all the more credible. I am using an anonymizer to try and conceal my tracks, because they will probably trace to people who know the truth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 07:29 PM

They say it's lonely at the bottom too. Skulkers and peekers and guv'mint squeakers are probably at the bottom.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 07:15 PM

"Screw your 'trauma' over Sept 11. Get the hell over it or you will die."

What Trauma? I gave you facts, nothing more.
The "screw you" was not necessary but if it helps you vent all that pent up frustration, go for it.

As to the death threat - you are on very thin ice. Calm down or I will take it to the authorities for review. If you are not careful, it will end up on your Permanent Record along with that "C" in Penmanship. Then when time comes for the government to separate the wheat from the chaff...well, you know. In fact, I honestly think you are the only one who does know. Is it lonely at the top?


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: PeteBoom
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 06:31 PM

But ya know, Orcs with strange symbols on them have been seen lately, too. I wonder if he knows about that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: catspaw49
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 06:03 PM

Yeah Ebbie....he listens to WHACKO radio and is a student at CFU college.......CFU meaning Completely Fucked Up.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 05:54 PM

Oh, dear. Bet it's him. I keep getting the feeling that Dratted Guest is a university student- could that be?


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: Beccy
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 05:49 PM

Dreaded Guest- You don't happen to live in the W H A M listening area do you? I heard some fellow call a radio talk show today yacking on about Moloch and the sacrifices in Bohemian Grove. Either you're cloning or you're in my backyard.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST,Dreaded Guest
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 05:38 PM

Story

You beat me to it.

This seems partly credible because a'US document' was the source. Military. And the quick denial always sounds suspicious. North Korea has missiles that can reach any part of America. The global elites are using the CIA to create chaos. Attack Iraq and tell North Korea they're next...so naturally Korea will act accordingly. But the monsters who are stirring this up don't CARE if half of America is irradiated while they create 'order out of chaos'. As long as the New Order means 80% population reduction and the monied families control the rubble.   The Bushes are pushing the North Koreans to war, so if this particular story isn't true, it soon will be.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 02:48 PM

Here's your North Korean Missile story, Dratted Guest. If you believe, click your heels three times...

An unsubstantiated report from South Korea on Tuesday, claiming fragments of a North Korea missile warhead had been found in Alaska, left state, federal and military officials here puzzled.

The Korea Times, a major Korean newspaper, said a delegation from South Korea's National Assembly had released a new report on the region's current showdown over nuclear weapons and missiles. The newspaper quoted a former Japanese foreign minister's words in the report that "the last piece of a missile warhead fired by North Korea was found in Alaska."

The Japanese official, Tara Nakayama, cited a U.S. document as his source.

Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, said Tuesday he's never heard of such a thing. Neither had Chris Nelson, the state's missile defense coordinator.

Air Force Lt. Col. Rick Lehner, spokesman for the Missile Defense Agency, said the report probably referred to a three-stage missile tested by North Korea in 1998.

"It splashed in the water hundreds of miles from Alaska," Lehner said. "I've never heard of any piece of a missile landing in Alaska from that test or any other test."


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST,Dreaded Guest
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 02:40 PM

And that's what I mean about compartmentalization...I'm in Texas, but I can read about Alabama, Cleveland and Oregon and piece the stories together. There is no NEED for us to accept the destruction of America at the hands of the racketeers who have seized the govt. We can SEE what's being done, incrementally, around the nation, through local reportage. They can't play us off against each other and hide information from us like they used to do in the compartmentalized days. But the internet WILL be negated as a tool, so we'd better make use of it while we can.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST,Dreaded Guest
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 02:34 PM

I'll look up the missile info later. Just spent my free time on this. The www.infowars.com site does a fairly good job of collecting information relating to the destruction of the U.S. Constitution. That is the impetus behind it. The strength of tyrannical govt is in its ability to compartmentalize people, so they don't know they are contributing to a tyranny (the Germans used that excuse at Nuremburg). Well, with the internet now, we can see through the compartmental barriers, with a bit of effort. Here are some of the stories on infowars.com today relating to repressive legislation around the country. Separately they're just...stories. But taken together, they're a BIG PICTURE. And these are just local and state abuses. Just the stories from today. All states have Emergency Powers plans in place or are debating them, and most cities are passing or debating passage of 'crowd control measures'. While THE BORDERS ARE WIDE OPEN. If we really ARE 'at war', why are the borders open while they pass legislation to control YOU? Doesn't make sense, unless the real objective is to eventually steal everything you have:

The (Alabama) bill says the governor could proclaim a homeland security emergency after consultation with a commission of top elected officials. During such an emergency, the director would have extraordinary power to assume control of emergency response forces; sell or transfer goods and services without regard to existing law; buy, condemn or seize property; compel evacuation of people in stricken or threatened areas; quarantine people, animals, plants, food and fruits; and control traffic on public highways and streets.

http://www.al.com/newsflash/regional/index.ssf?/newsflash/get_story.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?j7981_BC_AL-XGR--HomelandSecur&&news&newsflash-al

Police (in Cleveland) can now ticket bystanders who ignore an order to disperse. The legislation, unveiled yesterday, would allow police to arrest them instead.

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1048588352257441.xml

The amended (Oregon) bill defines a terrorist as someone who "participates in or carries out any violent act that the person knows, or reasonably should know, could result in the death or serious physical injury of a person and is intended by at least one participant to substantially disrupt or destroy," assembly, commerce, transportation, educational or government institutions.

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_0323_news_terror_bill.8b82b0f3.html
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I'll look up the missile stuff later. But if you do a google or googlenews search of 'Korean missile Alaska', something like that, it should turn up. The reportage I saw was from Anchorage, I think, but it quoted South Korean sources, so who knows? Could be South Korea trying to force the US hand. The stories seemed too lame to be taken seriously at the time, but I would have thought it would be a big deal in Alaska.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: PeteBoom
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 02:32 PM

The really bad news is that I heard a report that ringwraiths were seen over Mirkwood.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 02:12 PM

OK, Dratted Guest: I'll bite. Where do I find information on a North Korean missile fired into Alaska? (Actual information, mind you. I suspect that your sources heard that North Korea has the range capability of hitting Alaska- and ran with it.)

BTW, you misunderstood me: Oregon IS my home state, and I still visit it frequently.

But I do agree with you that it appears that this bill goes over the top- Go, Channel 8, KGW!)- and I agree with you that Oregonians will not sit still for this one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST,Dreaded Guest
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 02:36 AM

Senate Bill 742, excuse me. I just went to the Portland, Oregon local news, KGW.com and registered and read the local story. Long questionairre, so here's the first part of the story:

Terrorism bill challenged at hearing

03/24/2003

By KGW and AP Staff

More than 100 people crowded an Oregon Senate committee hearing on Monday to challenge a tough anti-terrorism bill as unnecessary and vague.

The state bill would create a new class of terrorists and punish them with a life sentence. It would expand the ability of law enforcement to conduct surveillance and keep files on groups that opponents say are guity of nothing but their political affiliation.

Some of those who spoke Monday worried that acts of civil disobedience would land them in jail. Others said the bill would infringe on their right to free speech.

"I think we already have laws on the books which proscribe… criminal conduct and violent conduct," said Bo Adan of Eugene. "Why do you need to have some sort of omnibus, all-encompassing bill which would create a different and other crime?"

Sen. John Minnis, R-Gresham, a 24-year veteran of law enforcement and chairman of the committee, sponsored the bill. "I think there's a lot of paranoia that is brought up in this discussion that is without merit," he said.

The bill's definition of a terrorist has been watered down somewhat, but not enough to please a wide range of opponents.

The amended bill defines a terrorist as someone who "participates in or carries out any violent act that the person knows, or reasonably should know, could result in the death or serious physical injury of a person and is intended by at least one participant to substantially disrupt or destroy," assembly, commerce, transportation, educational or government institutions.

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A person 'reasonably should know' a 'violent act' 'could result' in a death. That's riding a bike into the side of a car. 'by at least one participant'...that's just one person in a crowd of a hundred thousand. And if the bike spill causes a car to screech to a stop, that has disrupted 'transportation'. So...all the demonstrators could be arrested as terrorists, and once the manpower is there to do that kind of thing, it will be done. And this is MANDATORY lifetime sentencing. None of that 'I was just passing by on my way to the store.' If you're in the crowd, you are sentenced. And the last paragraph says this is the WATERED DOWN definition of terrorism. No telling how broad it was before. This thing will die, but for anyone to even THINK about submitting this in America shows how far we have fallen. Minnis is a stone-cold traitor.

You know, Ebbie, instead of telling other people they're being led around by the nose, you need to start doing some research. You said you are from Alaska...did you know the North Koreans shot a missile at Alaska? The media has hushed it up, but pieces of the missile were found. Did you know that? And if that happened, why are we beating up on the cavemen in Iraq whose BIGGEST missile was outlawed because it could shoot 95 miles?


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST,Dreaded Guest
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 02:12 AM

We posted at the same time. Oregon's not my home state either. I just looked up Senate Bill 782 on google and got a bunch of articles...outrage from the ACLU, etc. It most certainly IS saying what I think it's saying.

Loose wording in laws is designed to create loopholes. This law has too many. 50,000 go to protest, one breaks the law (even a provocateur committing a misdemeanor), and all 50,000 can be arrested, charged with terrorism and given life sentences. That's what vague and loose wording leads to.

Do the google search yourself and look at the articles by the people fighting this thing. And if an abuse is possible, it WILL occur. This law is designed to lock people up en masse for exercising constitutional rights. The sponsor fits the definition of domestic terrorist in the USA PATRIOT Act. He is a criminal.

I'm not down on you, Ebbie. At least you argue your points, when others buckle. But we're on the same side, I expect. This Oregon debate is just a test case, and woe unto us if it passes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 02:06 AM

Oregon is my home state, Dratted Guest, and a host of my family and friends still live there. Trust me: The proposed bill is NOT saying what you think it's saying. Take another look. Your lovely website is paraphrasing for the benefit of people like you and drawing conclusions that are meant to make you think that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST,Dreaded Guest
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 02:06 AM

By the way, for you retirees, these anti-protest laws are being set up so you can't rally or protest when they steal your pension funds. You don't think the global elite who own the banks are going to let you slide by much longer, do you? 95 thousand Bethelehem Steel retirees just lost medical coverage (95 thousand plus their dependents), and that barely made the news. Pension funds are the next big plunder in the U.S., so we'll see these 'life sentence for terrorism' laws aimed at protestors, and then you'll sit at home and watch the news as they announce you don't have any more income, and you won't be able to do anything about it because the gang member who was just recruited by your local law is sitting in his squad car on the corner just LOOKING for a couple of old folks bitching about their pensions. HE'LL have a job for you...in the timber industry if you live in Oregon. The man who sponsored this bill needs to be removed from office and tried as a terrorist himself, and it needs to be that way everytime a 'legislator' tries something this unconstitutional.

If you DON'T start raising real hell about this kind of stuff, things like THIS will be in your future. Both Bushes and Clinton praised this as the model country...the model for the future. First the 'life-term' laws, then the capital offense laws.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST,Dreaded Guest
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 10:46 PM

School systems already operate in loco parentis...in place of the parent. These new 'rules' are not needed. Of course parents expect schools to take reasonable steps. So why are schools suddenly issuing memos saying kids will be relocated, and you cannot pick them up, and you may or may not be told of their whereabouts?

And why is the state of Oregon trying to make protesting (or even being on the same block as a protestor) a crime to be punished by life imprisonment in a forced-labor camp?

The answer...tyranny. Your kids are about to be forcibly taken from you, if it suits the desires of the govt. You liberals wanted socialism...well here it is. Brought to you by a Republican. Soviet Amerika. Your kids will be taken and you will be shot if you try to save them. And if the legislature in Oregon has it's way, everyone in the state will be arrested and put to work in the lumber industry.

Screw your 'trauma' over Sept 11. Get the hell over it or you will die. Worse, because of you, I will die. You folks made a big noise about protesting the 'war', BUT PROTESTING WILL MEAN LIFE IMPRISONMENT IN OREGON IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. And this is just a test case. If all goes well, the other states will be forced to pass the same law.

Times are bad right now BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T SCREAMING ABOUT THE TERRORIST GOVT THAT CARRIED OUT SEPT 11 AND HAS ERODED OUR RIGHTS EVER SINCE. Even when a state govt is caught BEFORE THE FACT trying to make a misdemeanor a life term, you boo-hoo about Sept 11. 9-11 should have been a WAKE UP CALL, not a knock-out punch. Wake the hell up! Terrorists have seized the US govt! They have invaded two countries illegally and are using your brainwashed kids as cannon fodder while they do it. Go to http://thomas.loc.gov/ and type in S.RES.82 to see where Americans are going to die next. Or as GWBush likes to say...'sacrificed'. Wake the hell up!


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 10:43 PM

What Sinsull said.

(BTW, Dratted Guest, have you ever heard of tic?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: SINSULL
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 09:07 PM

Dreaded Guest,
That very policy saved the lives of hundreds of children on Sept. 11th. There was no way their parents could not get to them. They were trapped in the shadow of the burning towers. A plan was in effect to get them to safety. Please note: some educators died that day protecting the children in their care. Things are bad enough right now without your hysterical ramblings. Please get help.
SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST,Dreaded Guest
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 07:19 PM

Ebbie said, "Who are the people who will be performing these acts?"

"Do you mean to believe they have no children, no community, no conscience?"

"Do you really believe all this?"


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST,Dreaded Guest
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 07:02 PM

Then I guess it's cowardice. I mean, you don't strike me as especially stupid, Ebbie, so I guess you're just afraid. The Oregon proposal is in flux and will not be presented in the posted or any other form currently available. They're floating it to see how upset people get...amending it as they go along. And judging from your lily-livered response, I guess the Nazis might actually pass the thing and then continue with their takeover of America. How can you even countenance a piece of crap like that proposal? People in Oregon might soon be arrested and imprisoned for life as slave labor for the timber industry...why doesn't that upset you? And you don't care about shut-down programs at schools because 'as far as you know' the kids are usually reunited with the parents. Talk about pathetic.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 04:04 PM

Quote:
SUMMARY

The following summary is not prepared by the sponsors of the
measure and is not a part of the body thereof subject to
consideration by the Legislative Assembly. It is an editor's
brief statement of the essential features of the measure as
introduced.
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Dratted Guest, you are pathetic.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST,Dreaded Guest
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 02:45 PM

No, Ebbie, 'These people' have no conscience. They are blowing Iraqi children to bits right now. They're being trained in the military to commit atrocities, then the only thing they'll be suited for when they get back here is police work.

The national legislation is in place (PARTIOT Act declares YOU a terrorist if you break a law, and Homeland Security shuts down the country for the 'threat' of a terrorist attack). They'll worry about enforcement later.

Most likely, since US troops can't be depended on to kill US citizens, we'll have foreign troops in America (60 more countries the Bush/Cheney country need to negate for the UN, so our troops will be 'tied down' for a while). But that's OK, because NORTHCOM provides for reciprocal troop arrangements between Mexico, the US and Canada. And 18,000 Mex troops were just deployed along the border.

And if I'm predictable, it's because you folks KNOW the problems and the answers. The US govt has been taken over by the CIA. The terrorists control our govt. And unless you people get off your asses and hold your local monsters responsible for things like the Oregon atrocity, America will fall faster than you ever imagined.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: Beccy
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 02:25 PM

I knew who started this thread before I clicked on it. Gosh, fellow- you're getting predictable.

Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 02:16 PM

Dratted Guest, stop and think: Who are the people who will be performing these acts? Do you mean to believe that they have no children, no community, no conscience? Do you really believe all this?


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: artbrooks
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 01:04 PM

Looks as if "Dreaded Guest" is forgetting to take his/her meds again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST,Dreaded Guest
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 12:30 PM

Then this will REALLY make you laugh. All you protesters in Oregon will soon be locked up for life:


Tree huggers forced to spend lives in sawmills?

A BILL FOR AN ACT
Relating to terrorism; creating new provisions; and amending
section 19, chapter 666, Oregon Laws 2001.
Be It Enacted by the People of the State of Oregon:
SECTION 1. { + (1) A person commits the crime of terrorism if
the person knowingly plans, participates in or carries out any
act that is intended, by at least one of its participants, to
disrupt:
(a) The free and orderly assembly of the inhabitants of the
State of Oregon;
(b) Commerce or the transportation systems of the State of
Oregon; or
(c) The educational or governmental institutions of the State
of Oregon or its inhabitants.

(b) When a person is convicted of terrorism under this section,
the court shall order that the person be confined for a minimum
of 25 years without possibility of parole, release to post-prison
supervision, release on work release or any form of temporary
leave or employment at a forest or work camp.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 12:19 PM

Glad you all saw my duck...sheesh...trying to bring a smile is hard these days...**bg**


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST,Dreaded Guest
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 11:26 AM

Actually, you DON'T know where your kids are. The CIA has seized the American govt, and one of their specialties is trauma-induced personality fragmentation. Developed by the Nazi death-camp 'scientists' brought to the US by the CIA after WW2. Rape a young child and create a new personality (way for the child to maintain sanity). Assign the personality trigger words so you can activate it as needed, then train that personality to assassinate, run drugs, perform sex for seduction of prominent figures. Harris and Klebold at Columbine fit the profile to a T. So did Tim McVeigh. Someone got ahold of McVeigh early in life and set up his fate, because the brother of the governor of Oklahoma knew years before the OK City bombing a 'terrorist' named 'Tim McVey' would be used...wrote him into a novel as a character. So maybe the CIA IS raping your kids as I type this. Project called MKUltra, if any of you good mommies want to look it up. But then you probably don't want to know. You seem to have done your jobs and are satisfied that your children are laughing as they kill Iraqis trying to surrender.

And the fun will continue with Iran. Go to thomas.gov and type in S.Res.82 ... Senate Resolution saying we are outraged Iran might be creating weapons of mass destruction. Then type in S.89 to get a look at the draft which will mean your kids die beneath tank treads. Then type in S.22 to get a look at the death-blow to the Constitution...Patriot Act 2. Glad I could brighten your day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: GUEST,maire-aine, not at home
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 09:21 AM

Another reason for not having kids.

M.


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: Ireland
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 08:21 AM

I thought your reply was funny springhopper,gave me a laugh anyway. Good one!


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Subject: RE: BS: Govt Mass Kidnappings
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 07:06 AM

Actually, you don't know where your kids are when you think they are in school. So-called "educators" really take them to various prison yards where they are brainwashed by exposure to Eminem, Yanni, and others. They are force-fed Twinkies and Coca-cola, which eventually wipe out all of their home training -- family values, obedience, and so on -- so that by the time they are sixteen or so they've turned into mouthy know-it-alls who all too often think only of...well, *hormonal things*.


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