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BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out

Troll 31 Mar 03 - 11:01 AM
Rick Fielding 31 Mar 03 - 11:05 AM
wysiwyg 31 Mar 03 - 11:05 AM
Beccy 31 Mar 03 - 11:07 AM
duuuude 31 Mar 03 - 11:52 AM
GUEST,Norton1 31 Mar 03 - 11:58 AM
GUEST,Geordie 31 Mar 03 - 12:32 PM
catspaw49 31 Mar 03 - 12:41 PM
Amos 31 Mar 03 - 01:15 PM
Beccy 31 Mar 03 - 01:17 PM
GUEST,Kim C no cookie 31 Mar 03 - 01:23 PM
JedMarum 31 Mar 03 - 02:36 PM
Troll 31 Mar 03 - 04:47 PM
Troll 31 Mar 03 - 04:52 PM
Beccy 31 Mar 03 - 05:09 PM
Troll 31 Mar 03 - 05:19 PM
Jeri 31 Mar 03 - 06:00 PM
Forum Lurker 31 Mar 03 - 06:20 PM
Ron Olesko 31 Mar 03 - 07:01 PM
SINSULL 31 Mar 03 - 07:29 PM
Walking Eagle 31 Mar 03 - 08:19 PM
kendall 01 Apr 03 - 08:44 AM
JennyO 01 Apr 03 - 08:48 AM
Beccy 01 Apr 03 - 09:33 AM
GUEST 01 Apr 03 - 11:39 AM
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Subject: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Troll
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 11:01 AM

For those of you who believe that news agencies like Fox are in for a free ride in Operation Iraqi Freedom Guess again.This from the Drudge Report
"DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE: U.S. military expels FOX NEWS CHANNEL's Geraldo Rivera from Iraq after violating rule; giving away crucial details of future military operations during a live broadcast... Developing..."
Since this is a developing story, there are no more details at this time but I'll try to keep you posted.

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 11:05 AM

Darn that Geraldo! He'd better watch out or nobody's gonna take him seriously any more, ha ha!

On the other hand he DID sleep with Bet Midler, and Peter Arnett probably didn't.

Thanks Troll

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: wysiwyg
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 11:05 AM

What a shock, Geraldo of all people trying to scoop the military. Ego Uber Alles.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Beccy
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 11:07 AM

Well- if he did it, he deserves getting booted. What a stupid, stupid thing to do. Maybe he could just hold up a giant luminescent bulls-eye with a huge "We Are Here------------->" caption painted on it.
I just checked Drudge this a.m. and all they had was the Arnett story. I guess I'm off to refresh and recheck!

Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: duuuude
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 11:52 AM

Dang, should have just shot him while they had the chance.


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: GUEST,Norton1
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 11:58 AM

Bye bye Geraldo - dipstick that he is. The military unit he was assigned to dropped him off at the border to Kuwait.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: GUEST,Geordie
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 12:32 PM

Reporters "embedded" in the military is a patently stupid idea. This proves it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 12:41 PM

I happened to see that report as it happened and my first thought was, "What a dumbfuck!" But then that's always my first thought when I see Geraldo.

BTW, does anyone want Geraldo's nuts on a fish like Kendall says they do with Peter Arnett?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Amos
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 01:15 PM

In his case we'll put his head on a pike, but no-one will know the difference...

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Beccy
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 01:17 PM

Ummmm... not to ruin the party or anything, 'cause I'm surely not a huge fan of Geraldo and his Al-Capone's-vault style of reporting, but I just saw Geraldo say that he had NOT in fact been kicked out and that rival news agencies had started the rumour to damage him. So I guess the jury's still out on this, eh?

Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 01:23 PM

Geraldo should have been booted out of the news business YEARS ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: JedMarum
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 02:36 PM

Geraldo was not "embedded" - He was allowed to travel with the force, but was not a participant in the "embedded" program.

He crossed a pretty serious line - it could cause serious human casualty .... he certainly should have known better, and it is clearly at least VERY poor judgement on his part ... and knowing Geraldo, I would guess it is simply very poor judgement on his part.


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Troll
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 04:47 PM

He claims that it ain't so but I understand that he has been escorted back to Kuwait by the 101st.
I saw the show in question. He drew a map in the sand showing where the unit he was with was located and where they were going. Thats not ignorant. Thats not dumb.
ThatsSTOOPID!!!

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Troll
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 04:52 PM

I checked the Reuters story and followed their link to the Pentagon. The Pentagon news release confirms that he has been removed from the war theatre.

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Beccy
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 05:09 PM

Troll- I just went to the Pentagon's website and found nothing at all about Geraldo being kicked out. Gracious knows the guy's a boob- but I want to know if he ACTUALLY was kicked to Kuwait or whether this is a "war story".

Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Troll
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 05:19 PM

Beccy, go to www.drudgereport.com. Access the Reuters story and follow the links to the pentagon. If this doesn't work PM me and I'll get the address for you. Never mind. Heres the story.
U.S. National - AFP


                      Celebrity TV journalist Geraldo Rivera kicked out of
                      Iraq: Pentagon
                      Mon Mar 31, 2:04 PM ET

                                                      Add U.S. National - AFP to My Yahoo!



                      WASHINGTON (AFP) - Celebrity television journalist Geraldo Rivera, who
                      has been on assignment covering the US-led war in Iraq (news - web sites),
                      has been told by US military officials that he is no longer welcome to
                      accompany US troops there.

                                          "I can confirm that it has been done," said
                                          military spokesman Navy Lieutenant
                                          Commander Charles Owens on Monday,
                                          contacted at Central Command headquarters in
                                          Qatar.

                                          Owens said Rivera, a star of the Fox News
                                          television network, was not embedded with
                                          troops, but had been "asked to leave the unit he
                                          was with."

                                          Military officials were short on details about
                                          reasons for Rivera's dismissal, but according to
                                          US news reports, Rivera was told to leave Iraq
                                          after an on-air appearance during which he drew
                                          a map in the sand revealing information about
                                          US troop locations.

                                          Military officials would not confirm the reason
                                          for the move however.

                                          "We're suggesting that people call Fox News to
                                          get details," Owens said Monday.

                                          Officials at the network did not return phone
                                          calls for comment early Monday.

                      Rivera, a fixture on the US media scene for decades, is a veteran foreign
                      correspondent who has received some of television's highest honors,
                      including the prestigious George Foster Peabody Award and several Emmy
                      awards, given for excellence in television reporting.

                      He has become best known in recent years however for tabloid fodder,
                      particularly during a stint several years ago as host of the prime-time "Rivera
                      Live" talk show, when he catapulted to national celebrity for his coverage of
                      the OJ Simpson trials.
I chose Reuters because they tend not to be too friendly to the US.

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Jeri
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 06:00 PM

So blame Rivera - it WAS stupid. How many people did his segment get past though? I saw it and kept thinking the anchor or the military guys who were near him were gonna say "Geraldo, don't go there" or somebody'd pull the plug. Nope.


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Forum Lurker
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 06:20 PM

It could be worse. At least he didn't hit the troops with spotlights during a night attack for better pictures. That happened to a friend of mine, I think in Grenada. The Marines shot the spotlights out, of course.


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 07:01 PM

I witnessed Geraldo's antics for many years backstage at CNBC as a production manager. I can only say that the man acts without thinking. I am no longer with the network but I do find it highly insulting that he would blame the "rumors" on his ex-employers.   Geraldo is his own worst enemy, and the day he wakes up and takes responsibility for his actions might be the day that he is taken seriously.   I doubt that day will come.


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: SINSULL
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 07:29 PM

A far cry from the serious journalist who uncovered the horrors of Willowbrook years ago. If he really pulled that stupid a stunt, someone should have shot him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 08:19 PM

Duh! Here we are and we are heading here. Get your co-ordinates right guys and you can have us all on a slab for breakfast!

Does he have a death wish or sumpthin'?


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: kendall
Date: 01 Apr 03 - 08:44 AM

I, for one, believe the news people should be there, if for no other reason, to give us a first hand look at what is going on. Personally, after the "Gulf of Tonkin" non incident, Watergate, Iran-Contra, Arms for hostages, and "I did not have sex with her" I dont believe a damn word my government tells me.
Have you noticed the lack of coverage of American casualties? If you remember, that was what queered the Viet Nam war. We saw with our own eyes the horror of it all, and we finally said "No mas"


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: JennyO
Date: 01 Apr 03 - 08:48 AM

Beccy, I saw what you saw, Geraldo saying that he had not been kicked out, and that it was a rumour started by Peter Arnett's station. So what is the truth?

Jenny


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Beccy
Date: 01 Apr 03 - 09:33 AM

Jenny- I dunno. I saw him with my own eyes around 8:45 this morning saying that the "rumours of his demise were extremely premature." The story, as Fox tells it (don't even go there most of you- I already KNOW what you think of Fox) is that he is currently under investigation for what he drew in the sand (that part is not disputed) and that he may face expulsion at a later date if General Wyeth (sp?) decides that he endangered the troops. He is still with the 101st Airborne, though. So I guess that's the truth as we know it.

Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Apr 03 - 11:39 AM

In her book, Ms. Midler stated that Mr. Rivera raped her after he sliped her a dose of LSD.


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Apr 03 - 10:21 PM

I first thought that Geraldo was a less-than-competent person way back in the seventies, when he chased a pimp down a street in Akron, Ohio, shouting for an interview with the guy.

I understand that he also has a law degree.


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Alba
Date: 02 Apr 03 - 08:04 AM

I have just heard on NBC that Fox has been asked to take Geraldo out of Iraq, so he is not gone yet.....but soon will be by the sounds of it!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: JedMarum
Date: 02 Apr 03 - 09:56 AM

Fox and Geraldo claimed they reached an "agreement" with the military and thet Geraldo would leave. Apparently it was important to him that he leave on his own, rather then have the miliraty escort him out.

Kendall there are published lists of the casualties and they are updated daily. Each of the news service websites has a link to them. Thank God we've been lucky enough to date, to have comparitivel low casualties - though that may change with the heavy battles just begining.

I also agree that the embedded journalists are a blessing. It will help the military get the real truth out about what is happening around those reporters - of course it is a a double edged sword; it will also get the truth out about things that don't go well around them. It will keep them honest, no doubt.


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: PeteBoom
Date: 02 Apr 03 - 10:11 AM

Nonsense. A far more fitting "reward" would be to take away his camera and makeup, give him a rifle (single shot, preferably) and put him with one of the units whose position he disclosed.

It is stuff like this that was the reason that journalists were not with front-line troops in '91.

What a crock...


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Troll
Date: 02 Apr 03 - 11:27 AM

Kendall, you believed the Government well enough to spend a number of years working for it and I don't suppose you send back your pension check each month. Do you also not believe that the amount on the check is correct?
As for casualties, you can believe the published lists or you can believe the Iraqi Minister of Information. According to THEM our troops are being killed by the thousands. Oh yeah, and in one day they destroyed 196 of our missiles. Of course we hadn't fired that many that day but you know how confused things get during a bombardment.

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: kendall
Date: 02 Apr 03 - 02:37 PM

Troll, what kind of convoluted logic is that? One of the reasons I don't trust the government is because I was there!
Furthermore, I'm talking about body bags, not figures and web sites.It's the scenes of dead Americans that stopped the Viet Nam war; no one is going to get upset over Iraqi dead, after all, they are just foreigners.

Given its history of lies and mis information, do you think we should still believe?


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Apr 03 - 09:50 PM

Last night, Jay Leno on the Tonight Show did a segment called something like 'Through History with Geraldo Rivera'.

It featured Geraldo outside the gates of Troy, informing his viewers that little did the inhabitants of the city know that the huge horse shown behind him was filled with warriors who were going to exit the horse after everyone was asleep and slaughter everybody.

(Guess what- I've totally spaced out the second event but it was a good one. I do remember it was a long time after the first one, historically speaking .)

Finally, it showed him in Amsterdam telling the viewers that he was standing in front of the very building where the Anne Frank family was hiding from the Nazis.


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie
Date: 03 Apr 03 - 05:06 PM

...and then Lancelot and Bedevere will jump out of the rabbit...


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Subject: Geraldo Rivera
From: MARINER
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 05:07 PM

Is it true that Geraldo Rivera was kicked out of the war zone by the Americans for disclosing future attack plans on T.V? I always figured him to be a Dick Head, and that his actions endangered genuine reporters and if this is true it proves my theory.
I moved this message here from another thread on the same topic.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: JedMarum
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 05:20 PM

LMAO, Kim!


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 05:34 PM

The other Geraldo thread has been closed by JC. Mudcat sure has come up in the world.


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Apr 03 - 05:49 PM

Must be an elf and a deity all rolled into one Sinsull. You're right too......Gives the joint a lot of class.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: *daylia*
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 09:31 AM

Geraldo's fate?

Oh well, he can't do any worse than Saddam's lackeys.

:)   daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 11:50 AM

On a sombre note, a real reporter, David Bloom of NBC, died there today. His was not combat related (though I daresay an event could have been a catalyst). He died of a pulmonary embolism.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Art Thieme
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 01:26 PM

I hear a great line about this guy yesterday.

"Geraldo Rivera is the obtuse angle on the axis of evil.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: BS: Geraldo Rivera Booted Out
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 06:56 PM

Yes--that turned up on "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me!", topic of another recent thread.


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