Folk Pubs in England

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 10 Apr 03 - 03:56 AM

Oh forgot to mention the Heugh Hotel in Stonehaven near Aberdeen.

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: Hester
Date: 10 Apr 03 - 09:53 AM

Hi, Noddy:

Thanks for the tip about Tarneybackle. I'll keep an eye out for their gigs.

My mom loved Chester when she visited the U.K. several years ago. I'm not sure it will fit on my itinerary this time, but there's always a next time!

Hmmm... Dunkeld (Oh what a parish, a terrible parish!) I may just have to drop in there on my way from Perth to Aberdeen.

Thanks, Hester

Subject: RE: British Map Co-ordinates
From: Hester
Date: 12 Apr 03 - 11:13 AM

I keep coming across websites about British places that include a numerical code which I assume is a map co-ordinate. E.g. This cyber tour of Robin Hood sites in Yorkshire.

Since they don't say WHICH map the co-ordinates refer to, I'm assuming it's something absolutely standard that everyone (but me) knows about, probably published by the British government.

Does anybody know where can I purchase of copy of the map(s) by mail?

Thanks, Hester

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: Marje
Date: 12 Apr 03 - 11:50 AM

Hester asked about UK grid references on maps, and where to buy the maps.

These references are used on Ordnance Survey maps, which cover all of the UK - excellent maps that are(or ought to be) the envy of the world. You can get them in various scales but the most useful general one is the Landranger series (1:50,000).

You can buy some of them from Amazon, but a bigger selection at the URL which follows (I have tried without success to make a blue clicky. It just comes out in plain text but I'm sure you can work out what to do with it).

http://www.mapsworldwide.co.uk/

Good luck!

Subject: RE: Maps
From: Hester
Date: 12 Apr 03 - 05:57 PM

Thanks, Marje:

That's terrific.

Cheers, Hester

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: Mr Red
Date: 13 Apr 03 - 08:30 AM

Raggytash
mead is fermented from honey (only), meads flavoured with fruit are called melomel & metheglin (A spiced or medicated variety of mead, originally peculiar to Wales. SOED). Honey would have been the original source of added sugar to increase the potential alcohol. As I can vouch, honey+water on it's own is a difficult thing to ferment because of the dirth of nutrients so mead was prized. They even had honey and apple fermentations which I think is a melomel or cyser - my SOED CD ROM does list most of these terms. But as Grant (not Graunt) Baynham sings - "It all come back ter the falling over factor, and the fact that it gets yer drunk"

Hester -
the OS grid reference can be used on map sites like multimap try this for Bath city centre

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: Mr Red
Date: 13 Apr 03 - 08:40 AM

techie problem for Joe Offer.
I just put this blickie as the last text on the post (maybe without a cr and it vanished. (there was a spelling mistake in the HTML tag but even the text failed to show)

Bath city centre Poultney Bridge West of centre of map Hopefully

rhubarb, rhubarb. - (just to box the link in text)

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: bradfordian
Date: 13 Apr 03 - 08:58 AM

Same with STREETMAP.CO.UK eg Nottingham Castle & Ye Olde Trip To Jerusalem ON CASTLE ROAD
Brad.

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 04:21 AM

The Raven Folk Club is celebrating 25 years of music and song starting on Friday 25 April.

The line up is very impressive All evenings events start at 8.30 prompt at the Cross Keys on Lower Bridge Street In Chestser.

Friday 25 April Folk Club with Guests TAGGART AND WRIGHT and resident Band FULL HOUSE.

Saturday 26 a session in the bar followedby a concert with BERNARD WRIGLEY. Food will be supplied.

Sunday 27 April A session in the bar followed by a concertin theveing with guests PHIL BEER AND DEB SANDLAND.

Appearing every now and then through the weekend are Ye Time Bandits and The Restless Bentleys.

Now thats what I call a line up . More details on the Raven web Page.

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: Beardy
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 05:13 AM

Should you happen to be in the Hull-Beverley area recommended pubs serving real draught cider (not keg...fizzy crap!) are
Hull:- Three John Scotts; Admiral of the Humber ;Zaccariah Pearsons (All Wetherspoons); Olde Black Boy; New Clarence; Tap & Spile;
The Whalebone (best of the lot IMO).
Beerley:- Cornerhouse; Sun Inn
Gilberdyke:- CrossKeys
Also you may wish to try some real perry (NOT Babycham), made from pears rather than apples.

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: Mr Red
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 06:21 AM

Beardy you forgot to annuciate Gilberdyke, Hester will be talking Yorkshire as a second language, In Beaverlac (sic) they pronounce it Gibberdyke.

**BG**

Subject: RE: Yorkshire dialect
From: Hester
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 09:48 AM

Hey, Mr. Red:

My grandma never lost her Yorkshire accent, even though she lived 83 years in Canada. Having grown up hearing those garbled syllables over the Sunday roast, I expect to handle the language issue fairly well. In the meantime, I keep in practice by watching Heartbeat and Dalziel & Pascoe.

However, I have a friend who went to study at the University of York. When she arrived, she took a cab from the train station to the uni. The driver chatted to her all the way in a strong Yorkshire accent and she started to panic, thinking she would never understand a word spoken to her in that city. Of course, her profs were toffs with accents that were more or less RP, so she had no problem.

Cheers, Hester

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 12:37 PM

You should try "Barn Owl" cider Hester, far better than Strongbow and available through the LCBO. I think you are in Ontario from another posting. In England I used to like "Dry Blackthorn" which someone mentioned earlier, goes great with a good Curry.
We could/should be in England next year about the same time with our Morris side, .
JohnB

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 12:43 PM

Hit the wrong thing, I was trying to give a link toOrange Peel Morris So if anyone needs a Border Morris side for a Festival or a Pub for a night in May 2004, let us know, we'll see if we can make it.
JohnB

Subject: RE: Morris & cider in Toronto
From: Hester
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 04:01 PM

Hi, John:

Thanks for the cider recommendations and the Morris link. Is Barn Owl what you drink when you wassail the apple trees?

I'd come across the Orange Peel website before, and I'm very intrigued by the May Morning in High Park photos. Will you be doing that again this year? I hope so. I live near the park and would love to see the dancers.

Cheers, Hester

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 04 Jun 03 - 06:09 PM

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Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: John Robinson (aka Cittern)
Date: 05 Jun 03 - 09:26 AM

The Melborn in Bradford is on White Abbey Road. The pub hosts the Topic Folk club on Thursdays and I believe they now have a website (www.topic-folk-club.org.uk).

If you are visiting the Bradford area you might also want to take a look at The Grove, Holbeck, Leeds. A lovely little pub with some kind of music happening most nights, including a Folk Club on Fridays.

The Grove gig list is featured on several websites - but I can't ever remember the URLS. A google search will get you there.

Hope this helps.
John Robinson

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 05 Jun 03 - 11:41 AM

Sorry Hester, I was laid off from my job, so I never saw the thread until today. Hope you missed High Park this year it pissed down with rain and we got soaked. Try Brampton Folk Festival in June, Millrace in August or Labour Day weekend for thr Toronto Ale.
JohnB

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 05 Jun 03 - 05:56 PM

RE Martha Grimes

The wossname and Bladebone is still a pub and still open, as is the Widow's Son.

There are two 'I am the only running footman' pubs, no idea if either is still in operation, but both are in the West End of London.

Long Piddleton is probably based on Piddlehinton or Piddletrenthyde in Dorset, along the Piddle Valley.

LTS

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 05:21 PM

Mudcat, font of all important worthless knowledge...

I couldn't remember the name "Old Peculier" (of Martha Grimes's Melrose Plant). Google having failed me, I thought I'd post a Mudcat inquiry, but trying to be a good little 'cat, I did the forum search first. Here it is, of course. :o)

~ Becky in Tucson
where the Beverage House carries Old Peculier/Peculiar

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: Little Musgrave
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 06:01 PM

Hester
you wanted to find Robin Hood's grave in Kirklees. To narrow down your search, you need to be just outside of Huddersfield, West Yorks in an area called Cooper Bridge. The road you want is th A62 to Leeds. At Cooper Bridge roundabout look out for the Dmb Steeple (a 10-12 ft column with a sphere on top!) This has connections to local Luddite folklore, as it is in the field beyond that many Luddites met prior to attacking the mill at nearby Robertown, which led to a pitched battle between Luddites and local militia armed with muskets. Follow the sins towards Leeds, and immediately on youe left is a pub called the 'Three Nuns', which refers to the abbey at Kirklees. Behind the pub is a field, and at the edge of the field, just in the treeline is Robin Hood's grave. It is marked on Ordinance Survey maps for the area, but is on private property, so you will need to seek permission beforehand, of (as I did) take your life in your hands and tresspass. Good luck in your search.

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: Little Musgrave
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 06:05 PM

Dmb steeple should read 'Dumb Steeple'. Sorry.

Subject: RE: Folk Pubs in England
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 08:34 PM

Little & others, please note this is an old thread I refreshed in a fit of BSing. Sorry.

-- unless folks care to add updates in case anyone else is curious.

~ Becky in Tucson