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Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?

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Subject: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 03:47 PM

All my life, I've been fascinated by expressions of puzzling origin. When somebody won a race when I was a kid, people used to say, "the Winner Feedlebaum!" Or was it beetlebom, or what?
Anybody know where this expression comes from?

Another one I'm still seeing in the origin of "rough and tough and hard to bluff and used to many hardships."

Any other puzzling expressions?

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 04:02 PM

Joe:
Try searching "Spike Jones and his City Slickers" for a song about a horserace.
The winner (unexpectedly) is 'The Beedlebaum' (or Beetlebaum)

Nigel


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 04:12 PM

In Spike Jones' "William Tell Overture." Beetlebaum was the nag's name. Recorded 1948. I think the idea came from Doodles Weaver.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 04:26 PM

...bluff,
Mean as a snake and hard to fake.
There were others I can't remember.

An odd one I have tried to trace (I think it was in an Owen Wister novel) is "Dash my Buttons." I think it belongs to the category with "Gosh all hemlock," but not sure.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 04:28 PM

The "rough and tough and ready enough" has been picked up in adds for Dodge trucks.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: Helen
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 07:03 PM

My hubby has a Spike Jones CD with that song on it. They are all really funny.

Helen


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: JennyO
Date: 06 Apr 03 - 11:13 PM

I used to hear that on the radio when I was a kid. The horses all had silly names and the running commentary had things like "Safety Pin's been scratched". I might try and look it up.

Jenny


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 05:22 AM

Guest: Dash my buttons is in Brewers dictionary of phrase and fable

Nigel


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: Amos
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 10:12 AM

Yeah, its Spike Jones, 1948 circa. Toilet Paper wiping up the rear, Bubble Gum sticking to the inside, Lettuce leading by a head a-a-a-a-a-nnnnd Beadlebaum!

A


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: Tiger
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 10:24 AM

Girdle in the stretch......


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 11:47 AM

Gosh, I must have been alive way back then too!

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: GUEST,Bill
Date: 07 Apr 03 - 12:03 PM

Kids things say - well, when they drop something very good to eat on the ground, say a piece of chocolate,a cookie, tortilla chip, they will often claim the "5 second rule". (It hasn't been on the ground more than five seconds, it hasn't had time to pick up any germs, it wil be ok to eat with a little dusting off.)
This little ritual is often followed by "God made dirt, dirt don't hurt"
Bill


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: GUEST,tallrice@comcast.net
Date: 07 Jan 06 - 06:40 PM

"rough and tough..." comes from the "oscar the pygmy" pun.

It's a particularly LONG pun. Here's the shorthand version:

Oscar (a pygmy, or just a very short, uncivilized, jungle dweller) discovers that there are wonderous things available in America that he just has to get for his people. He sets off on a series of (mis)adventures, thru the Jungle, accross the desert, over a mountain, trying to get onto a ship, then stowing away. Each step along the way, when Oscar seems about to die, he says "I rough, and tough,...."

Finally, cornered on top of the ship's mast, he falls to the deck....SPLAT.

Then, to all the sailors' amazement, he jumps up, unharmed.

How?
He's rough, and tough, and hard to bluff, and used to hard.......ships.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: Azizi
Date: 08 Jan 06 - 10:37 AM

How about this one:
When you had candy or some other treat and you didn't want to share it with any other kid, you'd quickly say "No hunksies!".

If you didn't say this before someone else said "Hunksies" you had to share your treat.

I remember this from my childhood in Atlantic City, New Jersey, 1950s.

Does anybody remember this?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: Celtaddict
Date: 08 Jan 06 - 12:12 PM

I thought the name "Beetlebaum" as the William Tell horse came from the use of the William Tell Overture for the background music for galloping horses in westerns and cartoons. (I thought this was from the Lone Ranger but it could well have come earlier.) As a result, every kid I knew made the stick or other pretend horses run to the chant of "biddle-um, biddle-um, biddle-um-bum-bum" to the melody of the Overture.
I can recall being about six and thinking the adults were totally clueless when they were unable to figure out why my little brother called cows "Moos" but called horses "Blum-bum-bums."


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 08 Jan 06 - 03:12 PM

Along those lines:
Where did the Lone Ranger take his garbage?

To the dump,
To the dump.
To the dump, dump, dump.

Seamus


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 08 Jan 06 - 03:26 PM

GUEST, Bill said:

Kids things say - well, when they drop something very good to eat on the ground, say a piece of chocolate,a cookie, tortilla chip, they will often claim the "5 second rule". (It hasn't been on the ground more than five seconds, it hasn't had time to pick up any germs, it wil be ok to eat with a little dusting off.)
This little ritual is often followed by "God made dirt, dirt don't hurt"


Reminds me of two things:

In basic training in the army, if you dropped say a piece of bread on the ground (remember, we were ALWAYS hungry!) you'd just pick it up (no five second rule here), brush it off if necessary, and say, "Good thing it fell on a piece of paper!"

When I was a kid, my grandma, picking up a not-very-dirty piece of food from the floor, would say, "You got to eat your peck of dirt before you die anyway!"

For those who don't go back that far, "a peck" was (as I recall) about half a bushel, something like that. We used to buy apples or tomatoes by the peck.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 12:05 AM

I think I remember a thread some while back in which the "lyrics" to Beetlebomb were posted. I believe it was ...bomb and not ...baum.

But then sometimes I realize I remember things that never happened and I've forgotten more than I ever actually knew ...

John


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: GUEST,Maddy in Florida
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 06:48 PM

It was a comedy song..........
here is a piece of it.......

There they go down the track..........girdles in the stretch....bannana slipping up through the bunch.....and Feedlebaum...


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 10:02 PM

Good Thread Mr. Joe,

One of those LONG - five minute jokes.

"Please don't stick me for the drinks!"

Cannibals (USA) wanted to gain the secret to an Olympic gold medalist swimmer's success (DE) and figured if they ate the arms, legs, of the swimmer they would become triumphant through his strength ... it does not work....the swimmer can STILL outswim ALL the cannibals even without arms or legs....finally the cannibals (USA) decide to drink the German swimmer's blood.

West Coast circa 1958 "Herman the German" (also the name of the world's largest crane repatriated from WWII USA to Deutschland in about 2000)"Herman the German - The Greatest Swimmer in the World" - tag line after the cannibals had cut off his arms and legs - and proposed to drink his blood...."please, please, don't stick me for the drinks!" Pun to the USA alcohol bar expression "The guy down there is paying for this....and the pleading poor soul at the end of evening."

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: DADGBE
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 10:15 PM

Try this, Joe - William Tell Overture


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: Will Fly
Date: 05 Feb 09 - 04:46 AM

I used to bop to this when it came out - an absolute rock classic: Piltdown Rides Again.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: GUEST,ducksoup
Date: 02 May 09 - 06:17 PM

Having listened to a lot of Dr. Demento, I can clear this up easily for you...

The name of the winning horse in the Spike Jones And The City Slickers version of "William Tell Overture" is Feedlebaum, and is a reference to Professor Feedlebaum, a character played in other bits by Doodles Weaver, who plays the track announcer in this bit. It is commonly misheard as "Beetle Bomb".


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Things Kids Say: Winner Feedlebaum?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 May 09 - 06:56 PM

Ducksoup, it's an appropriate day for you to revive this thread, the day of the Kentucky Derby. Can't say I follow the races, but my dad had in the TV just now. It was quite a race, and the winning jockey was a real kick.
-Joe Offer, visiting Good Old Dad in Florida-


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