Subject: Lyr/Tune Add: MOTHER SUN (Ann Magill) - round From: CapriUni Date: 10 Apr 03 - 01:26 PM Hello, there! This is a round that I've been tweaking and fiddling with for several years, and just couldn't get to sound right, when played as a round via Noteworthy composer. I had been trying to make it a four part round, but yesterday, I thought I'd try it as a three-parter. I think it now works... But I'm not sure. The harmonies all sound lovely (to my ear, at any rate) when I use "synth voice" and "dulcimer" as the instrument patch, but just a bit harsh when I use "piano". What I really need to know, though, is whether it works for human voices, and human singing... and I don't have any other humans around to try it out with. But I know a lot of other 'Catters do ... so I'm asking for experienced voices and ears to try it out, and help me figure if it needs one last tweak. Here are the lyrics, with each new voice coming in at the start of each line: MOTHER SUN by Ann Magill Mother Sun, spin once more your golden light. Weave anew this world so bright. Fill our hearts with sweet delight through this day, and all the night. And the Mudcat code for the text2midi program, if you have it:
This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the latest version of MIDItext and get instructions on how to use it click here
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Subject: RE: Please take this round for a spin From: katlaughing Date: 10 Apr 03 - 10:38 PM Heya, CU, I couldn't get the ABC to work right in the translation thing. It said there was some mistake with the ABC code? Sorry, I'd love to hear it. kat |
Subject: RE: Please take this round for a spin From: CapriUni Date: 10 Apr 03 - 11:12 PM couldn't get the ABC to work right in the translation thing. It said there was some mistake with the ABC code? Strange... Worked fine for me, just now -- and all the other times I've tried it (and I tweaked it several times prior to posting, as the midi2text program which generates it doesn't "do" rests). Are you sure you put in all the abc text and nothing else (starting with X:1 and ending with ||)? I only ask because sometimes, when I'm trying to cut and paste something, sometimes my hand twicthes and I copy too much or too little... Just a thought... Or maybe I did mess it up... I dunno... Any ABC whizzes out there want to give a couple of women a hand? |
Subject: RE: Please take this round for a spin From: katlaughing Date: 11 Apr 03 - 12:09 AM Very nice, got it that time. I think it was because I refused a cookie the first time; this time I okayed it and it went trhough fine. Thanks! It's really a beautiful tune and I love the lyrics; should work very well as a round. I hope Animaterra sees it. luvyakat |
Subject: RE: Please take this round for a spin From: CapriUni Date: 11 Apr 03 - 01:36 AM Thanks, Kat! I was inspired to write this song after reading O, Mother Sun! by, Patricia Monaghan (I think, the book actually belongs to my aide, and she has since lent it out to another, so I can't check), who makes a very convincing argument that the earliest solar deities were actually Goddesses, not Gods -- particularly in the Orient and Egypt, and Bronze Age Europe, and that the women's crafts of spinning and weaving were among their strongest atributes. According to the author the sun itself was seen as the cosmic spindle whorl, and the long rays of the sun were the strands of thread from which she wove the fabric of the world. And that's why going widdershins (opposite to the direction of the sun in the sky) is such bad luck: it's the same as letting the spindle turn backward during spinning -- it weakens the thread that holds the world together. Anyway, I found it an inspiring and empowering idea, and deserving of a song... |
Subject: RE: Please take this round for a spin From: katlaughing Date: 11 Apr 03 - 03:53 AM That sounds like an interesting book, CU. I knew about Amaterasu of Japan and those of Egypt, but not of some of these others which I found in a search of google. Lots more out there, too. Now, I've more reading to do!**bg** The sun is a woman. Popular conception is that the sun is masculine (i.e. Ra and Apollo). But female sun goddesses are Bast, Sekmet, and Hathor (Egypt), Brigid and Etain (Ireland), Bila (Australia), Shamshu and Shapash (Arabia), Aditi (India), and Sul (English, worshipped at Silbury Hill). Sun Goddesses whose emergences from caves are part of their mystery are Omikami Amaterasu (Japan) and Paivatar (Finland). Sun goddesses who triumphed over adversity are Bila (Australia), Hae-Sun (Korea), Olwen (Wales), and Tach-I (Louisianan Tunica). Sun Goddesses who travel across the sky are Xatel-Ekwa (Hungary), Wuriupranili and Walo (Australia), Sunna (Scandinavia and Germany) and Saule (Lithuania and Latvia). Shine on sun women! Shine on, CapriUni! |
Subject: RE: Please take this round for a spin From: sian, west wales Date: 11 Apr 03 - 04:42 AM I recommend a book called, "A Women's History of the World" ... or that might be "Woman's". My copy has long since been leant beyond reclamation. If I remember correctly, it credits women with the invention of the calendar and nappies (diapers) among other things. An interesting read. sian |
Subject: RE: Please take this round for a spin From: Trevor Date: 11 Apr 03 - 06:17 AM I can't seem to make the link to the software download work - any ideas please? |
Subject: RE: Please take this round for a spin From: CapriUni Date: 11 Apr 03 - 01:16 PM Shine on, CapriUni! Shine on, Kat! The author also pointed out in this book (drawing on the myth of Amaterasu) that still bodies of water, such as lakes and wells, were also attributes of the Sun Goddess, because they drew the sun's being, through the power of reflection, into the Earthly plane with us. She makes a strong argument that mirrors were first invented for religious purposes, rather than vanity (since they are among the most ancient metal objects ever made -- if you have a new technology, you're more likely to use it for making sure life continues well first, and then discover secondary uses that make your personal life a little more convenient later. One of my favorite European stories that, once you recognize the symbolism, is clearly a story of a solar heroine is |
Subject: RE: Please take this round for a spin From: MMario Date: 11 Apr 03 - 01:22 PM trevor - the download for the miditxt software? I can't get it to work either - however if you want to use the ABC portion there are downloads for multiple programs at the ABC Home Page |
Subject: RE: Please take this round for a spin From: CapriUni Date: 12 Apr 03 - 01:10 AM Argh! I missed the closing " in the blickie I tried to post above, and lost everything from that point on... let me try again! :::ahem::: One of my favorite European stories that, once you recognize the symbolism, is clearly a story of a solar heroine is East of the Sun, and West of the Moon, Collected by Asbjørnsen and Moe: A beautiful heroine much travel over the world, riding on the back of the four winds, in search of her bear-man bridegroom. She is given three things of value to bargain for his freedom: a golden apple, a golden carding comb and a golden spinning wheel (Though I think it was originally a spindle -- it's rather hard to tuck a spinning wheel into your belt and go galloping off around the world! ;-)). And when she finds him, she must try to wake him from a death-like sleep. -- Now, if that doesn't have paralells to the sun waking animals from hibernation in the spring, I don't know what does!
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Subject: RE: Please take this round for a spin From: katlaughing Date: 12 Apr 03 - 02:21 AM Kewl, CU! The thing about mirrors and religious or spiritual purposes sounds right to me based on some of my studies of the ancient mystery schools and such. Also brings to mind scrying mirrors. Great thread and song! |
Subject: RE: Please take this round for a spin From: CapriUni Date: 12 Apr 03 - 11:52 AM Great thread and song! Thanks! Now, has anyone tried singing it as a round, yet? |
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