Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)

Subject: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 03:52 PM

Help! Urgently needed: a picture of a fish named Mudcat (black/white ore coloured). Google search found me always threads, cafe or forum. Send immediately!
Needed for graphic purpose, not for ichthyology.

Wilfried

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: MMario
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 03:58 PM

flathead catfish aka mudcat

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: Allan C.
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 04:13 PM

You can also find a short narrative with photo by clicking here.

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: Helen
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 07:37 PM

Did you do an Image search on Google? When I entered the search terms
   
mudcat "flathead catfish"

(use the double quotes around phrases) and clicked Image on the tab at the top of the search box I found these two pix.

Using the proper scientific name might bring up a few more pix as well.



      flatcat.gif

flatcat.gif
356 x 116 pixels - 28k
www.dnr.state.oh.us/wildlife/fishing/aquanotes/flatcat.html



      flatcat.jpg

334 x 164 pixels - 11k
                                                www.dnr.state.oh.us/wildlife/resources/aquanotes/pub116.htm

Helen

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 11:28 PM

LOL!

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 12:15 AM

I couldn't get those pages to load--says they aren't found. Maybe lots of Mudcatters all going there at once have overwhelmed the server? Ha!

SRS

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: open mike
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 01:29 AM

I got "404 not found" on those last two links, too.
is it the mudcat image from this website you are looking for?
I have an image of the mudcat logo as done up in a patch.
since you say it is not a fish study you are involved in,
perhaps it is a mudcat cafe' study??

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: Helen
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 03:02 AM

OK, well the links are not working properly for a start because no matter how I do it it ends up with the Mudcat.org address at the beginning.

Secondly, the website is coming up with an error message.

However, if you click on MMario's link above you'll find it goes to the same picture that Google refers to because the site is the same department but the reference is different.

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 03:29 AM

The links given are all to the Ohio Department of Natural Resources, which has "redesigned" it's websites recently. Moved to New Homepage, Ohio Department of Natural Resources.

I didn't find anything resembling the previous links, but you might be able to get something by going to Fish Pics at Great Lakes Fishery Commission and look for the Brown Bullhead, about half-way down the page. The Channel Catfish is just a couple below it, but is much too "pretty" to be mistaken for a "mud cat."

There are those who disagree, but there is no single "mudcat" accepted by any large group of people. Various local regions identify different critters by this name. Our founders may have had a particular regional type in mind; but in different areas you'll find different fish using that alias.

In Kansas, the "bullhead" is the one most commonly called a "mudcat," mostly because it looks like it should spend its time in the mud. It actually is found most often in comparatively clear water, and eats less "carrion" than many other catfish. It's one of the very few catfish that can often be caught with artificial lures since it frequents clearer water and hunts at least partially by sight. Most catfish hunt mainly by smell (or possibly by electronics).

A little southeast of here, the name is usually reserved for what my F&G people call the "madtom" catfish. You might try searching that name.

The most deserving of the name around here is probably the flathead, since it does (especially when large) spend a lot of time just "laying in the mud;" but they get large and make great sport to catch, so nobody uses the "derogatory" name for them much.

John

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 03:31 AM

Open Mike - you got 99 points!
Thanks to all - you've been very helpful.

Wilfried

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 08:19 AM

Derned if y'don't learn sumpthin' ever' day! Here I've been patronizing the mudcat website for years and I never knew exactly what a mudcat was. Now it turns out that the mudcat is better known--in Minnesota anyway--as the bullhead. We have three kinds: yellow bullhead Ameiurus natalis, black bullhead A. melas, and brown bullhead A. nebulosus.

I have caught them and eaten them--but that was back before I realized it would get you laughed at by most serious Minnesota fishermen. Bullheads are mostly found in the shallow muddy lakes of southern Minnesota, but every Minnesotan knows that the good fishing is Up Nort' in the rocky deep lakes that harbor walleyes, muskies, bass, crappies, etc.

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 08:53 AM

Why is 'Mudcat Cafe' so called?

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: Mooh
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 09:04 AM

There needs to be a reason?

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: MMario
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 09:06 AM

that question is semi-answered in this Old Thread

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 10:19 AM

Yeah, trust me to be first with the silly questions! Never did find one in my banjo -- just a couple of moths ...

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 03:12 PM

Of course - had we known our seeker was stalking our mudcat, we could have told him to right-click the banjo and "save picture."

It is a very low-res image, though, so you have to do a lot of pixel poking to make it look right if you enlarge to more than about the size it shows on the web page.

John

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 07:15 AM

Yeah, John - that's exactly the problem!

Wilfried

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: MMario
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 09:27 AM

working on it....

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 10:03 AM

The bullheads we used to catch in fresh and salt water in the Puget Sound area are not, in my estimation, edible. They seem to be composed of skin and bone and spines and slime. There is a certain fondness children might feel for them, however, because if you're a little one out fishing on the dock and you just want to catch SOMTEHING, then dragging your bait on the bottom will surely land you a bullhead. :-)

SRS

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 10:39 AM

Well, my modest effort at a realistic ersion of the logo is available fo viewing. I know Joe doesn't like people posting graphics (and I don't know how, anyway), so if you want to PM me with your email address I'll email it.

Steve

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 12:34 PM

Nice one, MMario. Had to turn the colour down a bit on my pc!

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: MMario
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 12:39 PM

nothin' compared to the one you did. I am *very* impressed.

Subject: RE: Req: Picture, Mudcat (fish)
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 17 Apr 03 - 03:14 AM

Aw, shucks!! (Blushing furiously)