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Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!

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Subject: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 10:34 AM

Good Grief! So THIS is why my favourite music has remained so unpopular all these years? Oh, if only Bill Monroe or Ralph Stanley had shown a little skin. Ricky Scaggs? If that big (and I mean BIG) ol' country boy ain't got a lot to love (looks like the 'pickin' porker's runnin' about 275 these days) then I'm no judge of horse flesh.

The other big news from the 'Chicks' this morning is that "They DON'T apologize after all"!! Yup, the heat wasn't as bad as they thought it would be, so Natalie's back to her 'Dubya dissin' position. Whahoo! Ride 'em gal!

Please....can someone run a blue clicky to "THAT" picture.

Cheers

Rick

P.S. Considered putting this in BS catagory..but figured that after everyone's looked at the Chick's nude picture, a discussion of Bluegrass will follow. If it doesn't, the clones have my blessing to file it in Catspaw's sub-conscious if they'd like.


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Watson
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 10:45 AM

It's here


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Amos
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 10:55 AM

She never apologized for thinking for herself -- she just apologized for being disrespectful to the Orifice of the President.

She (they) are quite adamant that they do not support book burning, death threats, preemptive gratuitous violence, and similar Republican redneck faves.

A


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 11:10 AM

what the hell .I thought US was the "land of the FREE" .It seems not. any one who disagrees is branded a traitor. That is just the way Saddam ruled his country. So back off Bush and critics all.

Ask the lord the gift to gae us
To see oursells as others see us.

R. Burns


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 11:12 AM

They are ripping off Full Frontal Folk!   FFF look better too!


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Peter T.
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 11:17 AM

(Well, the interview suggests they are repentant, but still) I retract everything I said about the lady being toast. That's the way to fight back! Truly brilliant response. Reminds me of Lenny Bruce's riff on Lena Horne vs. Kate Smith. Get the rednecks by their sexual impulses -- they cannot resist looking, and when they look, there are all those signs. Truly brilliant.



yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 11:21 AM

I must admit I would not be upset if I sold 6 million CD for them to get trashed. I still get the cash!


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 11:38 AM

Air brushing and body models!!!

Sour Grapes... moi?


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 11:38 AM

Yummy!!

Too bad there's no Bush in the picture!

They are great!


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 11:38 AM

And here I was over here in the land of disappearing civil rights, thinking that we need a written constitution like the good ol' US of A. Then we could have the right to free speech constitutionaly guaranteed!!!! What do they say about some things aren't worth the paper they're printed on. Shame on those blind and prejudiced people who can't take someones criticisms, and add them to the store of their knowledge.
Giok


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 11:52 AM

Good grief. Yesterday, I was reading about them receiving death threats...today they've bared all. Good for them for not being intimidated by little pricks with big sticks!


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Alba
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 12:16 PM

Way to go Dixies.
A:>)


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: DonMeixner
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 01:09 PM

I see Natalie has toned up a bit.

Regarding Natalie's comments about George W. Bush. Good for her, speak your mind. Take a stand. But then I say the same thing about Tom Selleck and his stand on gun ownership.

Too few of us are willing to take a stand within our communities or place of work if our beliefs are contrary or unpopular. Tom and Natalie are willing to take a stand and weather the storm. Good for them.

Of course my right to look at Natalie nearly naked is a stand I'm willing to take.

Don


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 01:26 PM

Politics, Schmolitics.......All I want is the wall size poster.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Deda
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 01:28 PM

Another perspective.
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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 01:35 PM

Yes! Great response!


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 01:37 PM

Ya know, I think they're probably using body doubles, just like I did with all my nude work.

Cheers

Rick


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Amos
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 01:40 PM

Rick -- using Heather doesn't really count, does it???


A


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: MarkS
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 01:50 PM

Can we add them as a special "Group of the Year" to the next edition of the Mudcat Nearly Nude Calender?


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 01:57 PM

Hey, body doubles or no....I still want the poster!

And Rick, in your case, NO ONE believed that was your body!!!! Why would you use JohnnY "Wad" Holmes anyway?   If you were really that well equipped, you wouldn't be a folksinger..........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Charley Noble
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 02:03 PM

Well, if our group said something politically scathing, and if anyone noticed, "baring it all" wouldn't do a whole lot for us. Still, it might be intructive for us to do a "Full-Montey" demonstration of "Haul-Away, Joe."

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, on behalf of Roll & Go:www.rollandgoseasongs.com


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 02:05 PM

Watson posted a link, but it's not to the really beautiful photo, looking down on the three, posed with their instruments (the ones made out of wood and wire) in strategic positions, all lying on a bed of flowers, their bodies sort of radiating out from the center of the picture. It was really lovely.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: PageOfCups
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 02:28 PM

If my local Post Awful causes ANY damage to my issue of EW, I will Hurt Someone.

Narf!

PoC


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: fsharpdim7
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 03:00 PM

Who's next? Martin Sheen, Jeanine Garafalo, Dick Gephardt?
Chris in Chilly Chicago


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 03:05 PM

Hey Uncle DaveO!

Hows about a link to that one!

:-)

Mmmmmmm... naked dixie chick...

:-P~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: GUEST,Photographer
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 03:41 PM

OK, now do you see why I spent 16 hours with them to get the right picture??

Exhausted


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Troll
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 03:48 PM

Good lookin' gals. If they can take the flac over what Natalie said, good enuff. She had a right to say what she said. Other people had a right to react as they say fit.
That's how the system is supposed to work.
I do, however, draw the line at physical threats. That is grossly uncool and ,if the perps can be caught, they should be punished.
And, no, I don't want a wall-sized poster. I have very bad eyesight. My orientation is more tactile and I don't think either they or my wife would approve.
sigh

troll


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Kim C
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 03:48 PM

I don't think that's Natalie's body. Well, it might be Natalie's body, retouched.


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Peter T.
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 04:22 PM

I think it is very healthy to move the conversation towards whether it is Natalie's body or not. Such a smart move. yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 04:24 PM

"whether it is Natalie's body or not"

Do you think you see ANYBODYS "Real body" on a magazine cover???

Absolutely not...

And well, who cares???


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Betsy720
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 04:46 PM

Bought my very first Dixie Chicks CD yesterday, solely as a political act. The clerk said, "Hey! You're the third one!"


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: SeanM
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 05:14 PM

It's an interesting move, but it DOES touch off some of my cynical buttons...

Where was EW when this first happened? Where was commentary other than mentions of the protest?

And sadly, in my mind, it serves to slightly trivialize the entire discussion. Much the same as with this thread, much of the conversation it creates isn't over the imagery, the message the photo is supposed to convey or much else. The discussion invariably turns to discussions of the physical appearance. And it's not just from the males...

Ah well. At least it's getting SOME coverage, and it's also (hopefully) encouraging the population at large not to knuckle under when someone says "you're not a patriot if you don't support El Shrubbo".

I can dream at least.

M


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 05:42 PM

Any truth in the rumour that the photo is their next album cover. Hope so....


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 05:51 PM

Clinton Hammond:

More's the pity, I can't direct you to the delectable photo I told you about.

I first heard about it, with a link, in the Banjo-L list. Went there.
It was some photographer's site, and this was one of his set of display pictures. The only one with the Chicks, and the only one with nudes.

The very next day I got an e-mail on that list that the Chicks had objected to its display, and threatened suit. It seems that the photo had been taken as part of a planned animal-rights, anti-fur campaign, along with photos of other celebrities who "wouldn't wear furs". The ad campaign didn't come about, and the photographer still had the photo. The story (on what authority I don't have any idea) was that they paid him to withdraw it. Maybe they bought the photo and all rights to it. As I recall, the figure of $10,000 was mentioned.

I went back to the site, and sure enough, it was gone.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: InOBU
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 06:08 PM

Ok Ok, to the ones who caught that it was body doubles, I admit it, we of Sorcha Dorcha did the body double work... I am the one in the center. Larry


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 06:25 PM

Gee talk about over-reacting!

At this time besides bad sales for their latest release not much else is happening, but OTOH their home town Austin ain't short on young long legged female talent either; perhaps thats the scare - if so I would love to spend a week cruisin the Austin scene to hear the fearsome unknow/s, so we may be in 4 a surprise :).

While there I might get to hear the now very noisey and nosey Mr D Hamburger - and where did he get that stupid name? - who seems to be falling out of every mag I read. Can he sing or is this the folkie version of Garth novoice Brooks?

If he reads this he should get his own material as well as the expensive mag pages - since thieving in Texas will almost certainly get one shot in the ass.


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Don Firth
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 06:32 PM

I'm not at all familiar with the Indigo Girls, but I just heard them being interviewed on my local NPR affiliate. I don't know how they look in the buff, but they're a helluva lot more outspoken than the Dixie Chicks--they came on strong--and they're not about to apologize to anyone for stating their beliefs!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: SeanM
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 06:41 PM

Indigo Girls Official Site

They're a MUCH more politically active brand of NeoFolk than the Chicks approach - but it's built into their recording, touring - every aspect that I've seen.

I'm not all that hot on their music, but I respect that they're still selling well and (as far as I can tell) doing it without compromising their beliefs.

M


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Frankham
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 09:37 PM

One of the problems the DC had was that they are in country music. Nashville reactionaries went out of their way. If they were in rock, folk, jazz,rap ......no problem!

Frank


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Deckman
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 09:57 PM

Who in the heck are the "Dixie Chicks?" Are they important? Am I important? Are any of us important? (is an important question?). CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 11:02 PM

The program is on now--I missed the first half, but what I've seen so far has been very good. More power to them. I'll go buy a CD tomorrow, to vote with my pocketbook.

SRS


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: GUEST,Arne Langsetmo
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 11:12 PM

Ahhh, "Sorefingers" opens his orifice again. Last I heard,
the Dixie Chicks were at the top of the Billboard charts,
and their concert tour is almost completely sold out and
should sell out completely very soon (and this _before_ their
"cover" photo).

You can't keep a good woman down (despite what the RNC
redneck chickenhawk crew would like to think). You go,
girls!

Cheers,

                              -- Arne Langsetmo


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 09:15 AM

This kind of publicity is bad for you as well Arne, and while I am slapping sissies down, on this site your is either a folkie or gone, so be folkie or bugger off.

Deckman - I guess you have to be overseas else you would know. Frank H above neatly sinps out the wee market where in the USA the DCs USED be popular and I cannot think of any reason why the naughty ladies would sell overseas, so you are probably not the only one wondering who they are.

Lubock Texans, where incidently the public almost closed down the local radio station after the story broke by objecting to Djs who still played the DCs CDs - Arne here is one too -. The station was trying to fix things up, after all it is still their home town.

The Country Music market has no time at all for unpatriotic remarks, in fact merely thinking something anti freeper down here could get a person locked up.

The DCs made the mistake of offending once, then afterward backanswering the pooolis by taking their clothes off. They stuck their finger in the air at the folks who used buy their CDs, and I thought they were dissing G W for being dumb???

Makes me wonder if this is the start of a trend, how about pulling all your hair out on CNN? Or how about being honest and admitting that while G W occasionaly puts his foot where mouth should have been, the chics mouths are their asses?, is that why they talk so much shit?

Perhaps Marty oughta leave it alone while she is still ahead?, while the cops are now still merely watching what she is doing rather than getting a warrant? Perhaps Arne you might be on the list as well? Perhaps when the FBI are sniffing around in the lobby? doin the dooo ain't kosher ... Arne..


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Kim C
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 09:52 AM

Peter, I wasn't the first one to mention it. They are probably all three using body models. Heck, it don't matter none to me.

She said what she said, right or wrong. I think the horse is plenty dead by now.


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 10:22 AM

you lot are missing the point The US is so full of people living in glass house I Just laugh at you ,the whole world laughs at you, and still you cannot see how far hypocritical you are. Land of The Free My Ass.


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 10:56 AM

Was this Dick C Chix not one of the doctors who looked after Khandu last week, in his hour of trauma??
Giok


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Kim C
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 11:10 AM

Noddy, the Chicks are FREE to say what they like, and anyone is FREE to disagree with them. However I think death threats and the like are going way too far.


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Frankham
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 11:22 AM

Actually, the DC didn't make any unpatriotic remarks. They merely said they were embarrassed to be from Bush's State. The ones that are being unpatriotic are the ones that would suppress free speech. It seems to be a new idea, that if you criticize a president, you are automatically branded as unpatriotic. This is a dangerous new precedent in our country and not in line with a democratic ideal.

No one had any qualms about criticizing Clinton or LBJ and those who did were not branded as traitors. As I understand it, the DC are excercising their Constitutional rights. Whatever happened to "I don't agree with you but I'll defend your right to say it."?

This is not a popular war. And for those with short memories, FDR was loudly criticized during WWII for everything as was Eisenhower and every other "wartime" president. The suppressors of free speech are reminiscent of the political aparachiks of the former CP under Stalin or other dictators, some of which the US has supported.

You may not agree with the DC but don't call them unpatriotic. Remember, you point a finger at someone and two fingers point back at you.

Frank Hamilton


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 11:32 AM

Carol it should be but ain't that simple, with Freedom cometh Responsibility, and that requires a little education which OC presupposes a small ammount of intelligence; thus one would not give a monkey a loaded machine gun.

So some things we could say in a free society are best left unsaid. I know it appears to be a principle that needs emphasising, a right to be exercised, but when we choose to do so by dissing some innocent party I think it has to be time to learn the meaning of the word all over again.


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Subject: RE: Dixie Chicks Undressed, Unrepentant!
From: Midchuck
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 12:32 PM

Land of The Free My Ass.>/i>

Well, we were the land of the free once, and we could be again. There's only two things preventing it - the Republican party and the Democratic party. Or maybe one thing - there ain't much difference anymore. Just a big competition for who can get the most money out of the lobbyists.

And if you want me to free your Ass, I want to know first what it will do if it gets free....

P.


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