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BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.

DebC 26 Apr 03 - 11:28 AM
Rick Fielding 26 Apr 03 - 11:13 AM
DebC 26 Apr 03 - 10:16 AM
MMario 26 Apr 03 - 10:04 AM
Steve Latimer 26 Apr 03 - 07:47 AM
Amos 25 Apr 03 - 07:20 PM
Little Hawk 25 Apr 03 - 05:42 PM
Rick Fielding 25 Apr 03 - 05:35 PM
Amos 25 Apr 03 - 05:25 PM
Matt_R 25 Apr 03 - 05:11 PM
Beccy 25 Apr 03 - 05:01 PM
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Allan C. 25 Apr 03 - 02:52 PM
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Bat Goddess 25 Apr 03 - 01:50 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: DebC
Date: 26 Apr 03 - 11:28 AM

Me too, Rick. We have had a subscription now for the last four years.

All is well. Still jonesing to get up to Toropnto to see you and Miss Heather.

Oh yes, I am taking your place in the house concert today in CT.

All the best,
Deb


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 26 Apr 03 - 11:13 AM

Nah, Deb....I LOVE THAT Onion!

Hope all is well.

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: DebC
Date: 26 Apr 03 - 10:16 AM

Saw this thread...I thought Rick was talking about The Onion

Deb Cowan


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: MMario
Date: 26 Apr 03 - 10:04 AM

I love a good boiled onion -

I've been told that Durian's need to be dead ripe before they are edible - and if you have to "hack" into them they are far too green - as a ripe Durian will split if you look at it. But the smell doesn't change.

I suspect that if they are not local you're not going to get a ripe one.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 26 Apr 03 - 07:47 AM

I had some friends who would boil onion like you do potatoes, just peel them and boil them in a pot. I enjoyed them, but they are the only thing that I have ever tried that upset my stomach.

Liver, I gag thinking about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Amos
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 07:20 PM

They native to the Malay peninsula, LH -- try the open markets outside Kuala Lumpur, they're all over there. I never got the nerve up to try one, though -- their reputation alone made me queasy!!

Rick, Ebby and I have decided to include you as a contributing researcher on our break through discovery concerning the roots of human violence -- enforced eating!! You've really done a major service to mankind here, buddy!! (See the Roots of Human Violence Thread).

Congratulations!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 05:42 PM

I've heard of durians, but never encountered one. Maybe I'm lucky.

Hey, Matt, nice to hear from you!

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 05:35 PM

Hi Matt, welcome back. Not EVERYONE is making clam jokes!

Beccy. A friend from New York came to visit about five years ago. He loves

our Oriental Markets here (cuz they remind him of home)

He brought a durian over and literally insisted we "open 'er up". "Don't worry about the smell" he said, "it's just like scooping out WARM VANILLA PUDDING"!!

Jeezus!! Both Heather and I almost threw up on the spot....and we hadn't come close to opening the sad thing. I put my foot down.

After he left, we went out the back yard to see just how awful the thing really was.....I hacked it open with a hatchet, and thirty seconds later it was in a TIGHTLY closed gatbage bag!

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Amos
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 05:25 PM

YEah, you're right, Matt. I vow, I am NOT gonna talk clams anymore.

I musta missed the dragonfly connection -- you want to serve???


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Matt_R
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 05:11 PM

I can't believe after all these years you guys are still making clam jokes. I'm just waiting for the dragonfly shoe to drop...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Beccy
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 05:01 PM

Spaw, my friend... durian is an exotic fruit that looks like a large version of the business end of a mace (medieval weapon- not spice). It is terribly intriguing looking if you like odd fruits and it is offered in many metropolitan areas in those uber-big supermarkets. It is also in many Asian markets as it is a *ack* delicacy in Indonesia and Thailand. They say that some people actually *gag* worship the rancid thing. It has the odour of rotting flesh.

We got it for my Mom for a birthday present (she's a food adventurer) and weren't deterred by the smell on account of the whole "limburger-cheese" theory. We SHOULD have paid attention to the smell. For starters, we needed a hatchet to open the dad-blamed thing. Then the smell about bowled us all over. Then we actually INGESTED the horrid stuff. Then my baby sister gagged, and my Mom and I RAN for the bathroom to brush our teeth. The rest of our party was wise enough to avoid it after smelling it. My husband said I smelled like the durian for 3 days. My Mom, sister and I burped the stuff for at least a week post-eating it. My little sister gets a pained expression whenever someone mentions durians.

Rick- you wanna supplant your hatred of onions? Try a durian.

Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: catspaw49
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 04:52 PM

That's really good to know Beccy and I'll keep it in mind, I certainly will! Now I was wondrun iffen yall might tell me what the fock a durian is?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Beccy
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 04:48 PM

I know I said it elsewhere... but you could not PAY me to eat a durian again. Honestly, the stuff tasted like pure sulphur AND it was had the texture of a bad avocado. Ack... I think I need to go brush my teeth just from thinking of it.

Beccy


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Allan C.
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 02:52 PM

These days I will eat and do eat almost anything commonly considered to be food and some things that aren't. It wasn't always thus.

My initial nemesis was salad. I endured more than a few lengthy standoffs between me and my folks before they would finally send me to bed and then scrape the uneaten salad into the dog's dish. Rick, it will do your heart good to know that the dog carefully ate all of the salad except the onions which he pushed out of the dish and then peed on!

In later years I came to thoroughly enjoy salads. I don't know how that happened.

Another so-called member of the salad family is tomato aspic. I had this atrocity forced upon me in my early years until I finally learned to be more assertive. To me it seems like congealed V-8 juice - which I am convinced is nothing more than garbage put through a blender.

When I was a little kid I equated the smell of broccoli with that of one of Dad's farts. Even now, if I should happen to forget to immediately clean any pot used to cook broccoli the same smell returns. I have no idea how I managed to work past my initial issues with this vegetable for now it is among my favorites.

My parents both loved artichokes. After cleaning up a few messes, Mom finally learned to give me enough advance warning so that I could evacuate the house before she began cooking them. Strangely, I now totally love spinach/artichoke dip and have even eaten a few artichokes in recent years.

Jeri, I had a great uncle who always put on a show whenever boiled okra was served to him. He would take a bite and then jump out of his chair, examining the seat to see if the damned thing had slid all the way through! I have to agree with you, boiled okra is not fit for human consumption. It is a shame that this is all too often the only introduction to okra for many people. However, I totally agree with Sorcha that when properly fried, it can be absolutely wonderful! To my way of thinking, it takes on a flavor not unlike fried oysters. I also like adding chopped okra to soups.

For me, brussels sprouts and turnips both can be used as empirical evidence that if you put enough butter on almost anything, it can be eaten.

There must be something about the canning process...
I was nearly grown before I discovered that green peas did not necessarily come from cans. It was a revelation! I detested and still detest canned peas but will eat fresh or fresh-frozen peas 'til the cows come home.

It may be only as little as five years since I discovered that tuna and salmon did not have to come from cans and did not have to smell - no, reek (and probably taste) like cat food. As it is with the peas, there is a world of difference between canned and fresh.

As Barbara Shaw observed, tastes change. What I once found repulsive are often now among my favorite foods. However, I am still fairly well convinced that it will be a very cold day in hell before I eat any tomato aspic!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: catspaw49
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 02:01 PM

The real trick to not overcooking liver is to buy it whole and have it sliced an eighth of an inch thick. I buy it that way but slice it myself. Now a hot skillet and only a minute or so a side and you would never know it's the same meat. Do the onions the same way, thin sliced and quick cooked. It cooks best in either real butter or bacon grease.

I don't eat it very often anymore because frankly the way you cook it is unhealthy and organ meats are far more unhealthy than we thought. Not heart healthy at all!! But cooked "my way" once in a great while?   DAMN....it's really great!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 01:50 PM

I like liver, too -- not too often, but I like the liver, onions and bacon fat combination.

Bacon fat RULES!!! (But I don't like bacon unless it's in or on something.)

Chicken livers, cottage cheese and asparagus? I like all the ingredients, just not sure about them together.

Now chicken HEARTS -- love those little suckers. Ate them even in the days I wouldn't eat chicken [Die chicken beast! I eat your heart!] because the Leghorns my grandparents kept were such disgusting stupid critters. Chicken hearts sauteed in butter and piled on top the Armenian rice pilaf with the toasted orzo in it.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 01:43 PM

Hi Giac.

I've just learned a very interesting lesson about the mystery of life.

You encountered a sadistic nun who made you eat congealed chili.

You can't eat chili now.

Had I had the same experience, I wouldn't be able to go into a Catholic Church!!

.....and I would have AIMED HIGHER on the nun when throwing up!

This is probably why I was eventually expelled from High School!

********************************************************

Hi Barb. Yeah, I remember that Pizza. LOOKED great!

Cheers

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 01:40 PM

The trick to liking liver, in my experience, is to not to overcook it. Not only does the texture change, when it's well done but the taste changes too. So, yes, I like calf and chicken livers both. (Man, don't we sound predatory!)

One of my favorite meals for a long time was chicken livers, cottage cheese and asparagus. The tastes and textures go well together.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Amos
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 01:35 PM

My delicate little stomach is knotting up just reading this thread. :.)

"Satan gave me a taco, it really made me sick
The meat was kinda greasy, and the cheese was much too thick...."

(Beck, "Satan gave me a taco...")

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 01:24 PM

I first heard about Rick's interest in creamed onions the day he and Heather showed up at my house at dinnertime (just before a gig in Branford) and I had a "Main Event" pizza waiting for them. It was covered with EVERYTHING, including strands of delicious onions, peppers, broccoli, sausage, bacon, pepperoni, etc. Heather dug right in, but Rick said he would "wait" to eat until after the gig (in the hopes that something non-onion would show up, I found out later).

I personally have to leave the room - even leave the house - if someone is cooking liver. And the myth that it's delicious with onions is a lie. I filled many a napkin with liver and onions at the dinner table when I was a kid.

I used to hate onions as a kid, wouldn't eat one that still looked like onion but would eat meatloaf, etc. if the onions were grated and invisible. But I outgrew that, and came up with the notion that "tastes change."

So, I kept telling my sons when they were growing up that "tastes change." Every few months I would try again to make one son taste cauliflower. One day when we had company at a cozy little dinner party, I prevailed upon him to just taste the cauliflower, because "tastes change" and he might like them now. He took some in his mouth and then proceeded to spray the dinner table with cauliflower vomit!! I've come to the conclusion that cauliflower isn't that great - "Moms change."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 12:40 PM

Just made a discovery -- store brand packaged macaroni and cheese with a little bit of leftover creamed onions added to it is the ultimate comfort food.

What a self-indulgent day I'm having.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 12:15 PM

The "no vampires either" comment was directed at Spaw's comment.

Orange and RADISH salad is also tasty -- especially along with a Moroccan chicken stew (with plenty of onions, preserved lemons and olives).

Gotta try PB & onion sandwiches. Might even throw some chutney on top of the mix.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: MMario
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 11:40 AM

if you are truly "upscale" the peanut butter and horseradish will also have a slight dab of catsup


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 11:37 AM

Other good onion presentations:

Peanut butter and onion sandwiches.

Orange and onion salad.

Fried hog-brain sandwiches with raw sweet onion. (This is, admittedly, a learned taste.)

Speaking of the peanut butter and onion sandwiches, a good horses' doover is, on a canape base or saltine, peanut butter with just a dab of ground horseradish! Sounds weired, but on my honor, it's good!

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Giac
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 11:04 AM

Jeri mentioned kimchee. Now there's a thought. Eating kimchee might keep one from catching current nasty diseases. No one would get close enough to infect you. Kinda like ramps in that respect.

I like kimchee and relish ramps and okra.

However there was an unpleasant incident once with a nun at a Catholic girls school when I was 11.

I took my bowl of chili, untouched, back to the dirty dish line. When Sister Dunstan saw it, she yanked me from the line and asked why I didn't eat it. "Too greasy," I said. She told me to eat that chili. I said no. She smacked me on the shoulder. Not desiring further smacks, I took a bite of the now-congealed chili. It returned promptly and landed on her black shoes. Too many witnesses for her to kill me, so she just made me write a paper on some long-mouldy saint.

Couldn't look at chili, or stand to smell it for years.

I won't eat anchovies -- no hairy little fishes, thanks. And I really don't like the taste of mutton. I think that was from my formative years when I heard, endlessly, that sheep poison the ground and eat the roots of grass, destroying the pasture. (It was cattle territory, don't ya know!!)

~;o) Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 10:55 AM

No vampires, either!

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 10:53 AM

For those who dislike slimy Egg plant/Aubergine, try this.

Slice a good sized egg/aub into slices, lay out on a plate and sprinkle liberally with salt, and leave them till the salt draws out lots of moisture, about 30 mins. This also stops them going brown.
Rinse said slices, pat them dry, and then flour them.
Dip the floured slices in cold water and then deep fry, in hot oil, { yes it's messy!}
They come out real crisp, and tasty. You can also do the same thing with marrow flowers.

Bon appetit.....Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: catspaw49
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 10:50 AM

"But there's no life without onions and garlic

....and very little sex life with them! Just kidding...We love both and Karen and I are each completely free of fleas as well!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 10:49 AM

I wish my phobia (phobiae) ended at onions. Sadly it doesn't, and I can't think of any awful experiences from my youth to explain why I hate so many veggies. It's possible that my folks just didn't force me to clean my plate (or do my homework!)

I was doing a concert in an unamed part of New England a few years ago and the folks that were putting me up had a nice party in my honour out the back of their house. They were SOOOOOO nice, but didn't know about my food peculiarities. I ended up with a plate full of little potatoes COOKED with fried onions! Not only that but three or four Brussels sprouts and a mixture of cauliflower and broccoli filled the plate. The worst was some nice salmon that also been cooked along side the ONIONS!

I absolutely freaked! I should have just told the host that I was allergic to food period and had to be fed intravenously.....but instead.......now forgive me folks....I truly WAS desperate and panicky......I started tossing spuds into the plastic garbage can about twenty feet away, whenever no one was looking!!

I'd gotten rid of most of the (onion-contaminated) potatoes and brussels sprouts when a small girl sidled up and said "what are you doing Mister"? Usually I can be pretty glib when neccessary, but not then. I just looked at the kid, said "I dunno" and prayed she wouldn't tell anyone!

This was before I read Quentin Crisp, and became the "let it all hang out" blabbermouth that joined Mudcat. Back Then I was still in the "Vegetable closet"

Cheers

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 10:46 AM

I dunno Rick. We have similar tastes on a lot of things, but not this. "Creamed onions!" I said lasciviously not too many minutes ago. It's been waaaaay too long (because Tom does all the cooking and, oh, I sort of forget about my indulgences some times when I've got the opportunity.

Well, took care of that straight off. Here it is, 10 o'clock in the morning, and I had to throw too much butter into a pan and slice up a mess o' onions. Ummm, dash of flour, enough cream, sprinkle of salt & pepper. I almost scarfed it down right from the pan, but I actually put it in a dish, which still bears traces of the too much butter part (but the onions are GONE).

My mother always put them over potatoes and that I can live without. As a matter of fact, I can live without the potatoes I was brought up on -- BOILED. Ugh! I'll eat 'em any other way, but it's been over 40 years since there's been a boiled potato on my plate. (Not counting, of course, the little "new" potatoes -- drowning in butter and with fresh parsley.)

The hot lunch program at my gradeschool in Milwaukee in th '50s did me in on a lot of things though. They screwed up macaroni and cheese, mashed potatoes (another thing I wouldn't eat until Curmudgeon made them from scratch and suggested -- suggested -- I eat them), pumpkin pie fer-pete's-sake! It took years to recover. How can you make pumpkin pie inedible?

I don't particularly care for lima beans, but I can't remember any particular incident that caused it. Funny , because I like fava beans.

And in my head I don't like green bell peppers, but in actuality, I eat and like stuffed peppers, Italian sausage subs with onions and peppers, and even pepper rings in salads. Go figure.

But there's no life without onions and garlic . . .

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Amos
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 09:42 AM

Awww, okay, Jeri. Don't want no Annoyed Clams 'round here, I guess - it makes 'em stick those pointy parts out, and that gets Spaw started again. Reminds him of cigars, or something...I wouldn't know. As a picky eater, clams have been one of of the species I make a regular deal with -- I don't eat them, an' they don't eat me.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Jeri
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 06:59 AM

Amos and Spaw, y'all be nice. All this back-and-forth stuff is irritating to the clams.

I've been told the legs can get in the way when eating a grasshopper, and it's best to remove them. That might be just a bit drastic.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Gurney
Date: 25 Apr 03 - 04:44 AM

When I was a lad, I worked in the mines as a ring-dragger (work that one out!) and the motor-man on our haulage always ate two big Spanish Onions every day, crunching into them like apples. Put me off them for years.
Onions give you wind. Leeks give you more wind.

As you get older, your tastes change, and you tend more to bitters and sours. So, maybe you will get to like them one day. I grew to like onions and brussels sprouts and spinach. Never would have believed it once.
It was a brave man who first ate an oyster. His name was probably Uggh.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 11:59 PM

With enemies like that, who needs friends?

Rick! ...imagine my suprize when I stumbled on to this tread... long after I posted on the vegi-thread...

Eggplant, canned mushrooms (we called them 'dog noses'), peas, lima beans (which I would very willingly stir around all night), squid (my dad loves it), and to this day, I will not eat chicken unless my life depends on it... Oh, and I nearly forgot... Hot Dogs. When I was a kid, we had hot dogs somewhere near Reno, and then drove at night on the winding roads... exhaust leak... I have never been so... well anyway, I won't eat tofu-dogs either...

Roast beef anyone? Oh, the roast beef of old England... And old English roast beef! ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 11:58 PM

Yeah, sorry Amos......It was I'm sure just a mistake on your part, a bit premature with your input I guess. Anyway, my remark was one of those things that just shot right out there........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Amos
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 11:24 PM

Spaw:

That remark was below you, if such a thing is possible. Just because I left out a hyphen, you have to go guttersnipe on me. Dang. Anyway, watch where you point those clams, now....

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 11:13 PM

I like just about everything, much to my chagrin. A lot of things that have been mentioned here are making my mouth water. I like onions any way that I can get them, love Garlic. Kat, you beat me to the liver. It and lamb are about the only things that I've tried that I don't like.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 10:49 PM

Jeri, only way I can eat okra is battered/breaded and deep fried. Pretty good then, acutally.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 10:47 PM

I am was fortunate child. Our father didn't like casseroles or odd veggies. He was a meat and potatoes man. The most exotic we got was homemade pizza which was very good. We always had a green salad with whatever we had for supper, too and water. Dad always had water with his meal.

We had lima beans and ham with cornbread, but we all liked them and it is still a meal I will fix now and then because it is so tasty, though I make it without the ham these days.

I cannot stomach the smell of Rog's homemade pea soup. Never had to eat peas, didn't like them when I tried them and that smell!! Peigh-Yew!**bg**

Spaw, we have to get you and Rog together. He eats corn and clams the same way you do!

Oh, the one thing mom cooked which I enever did eat was liver and onions. I'd eat the bacon and that was it. That is another smell I cannot stomach. Hmmmm...it seems smells of food have always been an important thign for me when it comes to food and whether I will eat it or not.:-)

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 10:30 PM

Amos, interesting as your post was, I was initially completely put-off when you stated it was a "cum swap meet thing." That's disgusting and totally gross and I ain't going nowhere like that, least of all with you!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 10:23 PM

Damn Amos I kinda like those bad x-rated dreams-clams you say, I may have to give those a try!
When I was a kid , well even now I can't eat peas from the can. I love them fresh steamed or raw but those tasteless green giant type, no way. Same with the creamed corn in a can. Can't do it, but I make my own creamed corn that is the best. Scrape the corn, add butter and cream (half and half) and bake 1 hour, then I freeze it. It is so good and sweet and kicks ass over that canned crap.
Onions, I don't think I go a day without eating onions. I think we went through about 50 lbs. or more the last 6 months.
Rustic


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 10:09 PM

Rick, I have an "onion Tale" from the other side.....I'm the bad guy!!! Well sorta'............

We had two sisters while fostering that we loved a lot and probably should have adopted, but that's another story. They were with us for 3 years and had their share of problems, none of which they brought upon themselves. Anyway, one day I walk into the alley behind the old barn style garage and find that someone has ripped out a huge chunk of Day Lilies. It's surprising that anything will grow in the small strip of earth alongside the alley, but these things are tough!!! I looked at the mess in the alley, knew immediately "who done it," and went and found the girls (ages 8 and 10 at the time).

ME: "Hey guys, what's with this?"
THEM: "What do you mean Dad?"
ME: "I mean, what's with ripping out the lilies?"
THEM: (insert here a lot of protesting, etc... as it weakens they are finally silent)
ME: "Finished? Let's try this again. What was the point of doing this?"
THEM: "Hem-Haw-Hem-Haw-Blabber-Blather-Babble............"
ME: Once more.....What was the point of tearing the lilies out by the roots?"
THEM: The older one pipes up and says, "We were hungry we thought they were onions and we could eat them!"
ME: .......uh-huh........Onions huh? So you're hungry right? Is that it?"
THEM: "Oh yeah Dad, we were just thinking we could eat them," they both agreed happily thinking I was satisfied with the answer.
ME: Well guys I wish I had known....don't want you hungry....Let's go to the kitchen!"

You know of course what happened next........Neither of them would have eaten a raw onion on a bet so I peeled and sectioned one and put it on the table in front of them with a big smile on my face saying, "There you go guys!!! Finish it all and then you can go back out and play.......but you're not leaving the table til it's gone."

Two hours later we discussed tearing up plants and other property. It didn't cure the problem entirely, but it was another step along the way. Neither though developed an "onion problem" and both loved to tell the story to new foster kids saying, "Don't lie to Dad whatever you do!"

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Amos
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 09:30 PM

Geez, Spaw --

In Thailand we were driven by bus up into the hills near the Burmese border, to a huge outdoor market cum swap meet thing where they sold everything from Chinese ukeleles to deep-fried earthworms and monkey-brains. The tour guide brought a large insect from this haute cuisine spread back to the bus and asked everyone if they would like to try a local delicacy. My Ma-in-law, God bless her, piped right up and said she'd give it a go, which quite surprised Sun Chuyen, our guide. He explained to her that you must turn the grasshopper around and eat it tail first, not looking into its eyes (it was complete and intact, just fried) because you would not want to look into its eyes just before you swallowed it.

I suggest you apply this method to clams in the future. Don't be putting them down your throat with that little pointy part toward you. It will give you bad, x-rated dreams...

(He also told her that in all his years guiding people through those hills he had never before had a Westerner take him up on the offer. He was impressed as hell, but, well, Margaret is that kind of woman.).

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Jeri
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 09:26 PM

Jon, I've been told I didn't cook the snot okra correctly, so maybe they get less viscous if you boil the heck out of them.

Spaw, once upon a time the thought of any shellfish would nearly make me barf. I forced myself to swallow a couple of raw ones when I was about 15. I didn't see them as worth eating, but I didn't barf either. You know they put dried, crunchy brine shrimp in kimchee in Korea? Of course, they roast silkworm larva too. I AIN'T eatin' 'em. I fully understand it's just that my culture has an aversion to eating anything with more than 4 legs or land-dwelling critters with no legs on purpose, but it's MY culture.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 09:13 PM

Sorry, Rick, but I'm with Giok and Mario on this one..........get busy with the Dremel, it will distract you.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 09:05 PM

Ya can't have any puddin' if ya don't eat yer onions.

rr

PS. Hi Matt, How are you doing?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 08:54 PM

Jeri, I have that same feeling toward clams. A lot of folks are content to simply stab them with a fork, often a small one, and also cook them way too quickly. Some say the look and all is just too much for them. But to me the real way to enjoy them is to heat them slowly and enjoy the fragrance as they open. With a few simple manipulations you can open them to the point that your mouth alone can devour the succulent meat and aromatic juices. That's real eatin'!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 08:47 PM

Jeri, Okra/ Ladies Fingers is wonderful!!! It's been ages since I've been to an Indian but Bhindi Bhaji is always top on my list for side dishes.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 08:40 PM

Rick, I can't agree with the school master type of approach - for me it is broad beans (although I can eat them now if very young and fresh) and butter beans. Pip (my mum) had it even worse as she turned vegetarian at a very early age (I believe learning the fate of her friendly pig(let?) from her friend's farm played a part in it). She has told me tales of trying to hide meat in tissue paper as well as putting stuff into her mouth and pretending to eat something that makes her want to throw up...

As for onions, I'm sorry... they are an essential to me, whether crisp and strong in a salad or a sandwich, boiled and served with white sauce, used in a rich onion gravy or even as a starter when making the base for a curry.   

Pip is a keen gardner and usually manages to grow enough onions and the related but sweeter (and I think tastier) shallot to see most of the year out...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Onion...My Life Long Enemy.
From: Peg
Date: 24 Apr 03 - 08:21 PM

same experience as a kid with many veggies; sat at the table long after the others had left... I eat most of them now but to this day won't touch sweet potatoes (unless they're spicy and french fried!), winter squash or creamed corn...


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