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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Teresa 07 Mar 05 - 01:46 AM
Amos 06 Mar 05 - 10:08 PM
GUEST,me 06 Mar 05 - 08:58 PM
Amos 06 Mar 05 - 03:50 PM
Rapparee 06 Mar 05 - 03:38 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 06 Mar 05 - 01:42 PM
Rapparee 06 Mar 05 - 12:38 PM
Amos 06 Mar 05 - 11:40 AM
Rapparee 06 Mar 05 - 10:45 AM
Acme 06 Mar 05 - 10:34 AM
Amos 06 Mar 05 - 10:26 AM
Acme 06 Mar 05 - 10:20 AM
Acme 06 Mar 05 - 10:15 AM
Acme 06 Mar 05 - 10:14 AM
Acme 06 Mar 05 - 10:14 AM
Acme 06 Mar 05 - 10:14 AM
Acme 06 Mar 05 - 10:12 AM
Acme 06 Mar 05 - 10:11 AM
Acme 06 Mar 05 - 10:07 AM
Rapparee 06 Mar 05 - 10:05 AM
Bee-dubya-ell 06 Mar 05 - 08:42 AM
Bunnahabhain 06 Mar 05 - 08:17 AM
Layah 06 Mar 05 - 08:16 AM
Bee-dubya-ell 05 Mar 05 - 11:13 PM
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Acme 05 Mar 05 - 11:24 AM
Rustic Rebel 05 Mar 05 - 03:25 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Teresa
Date: 07 Mar 05 - 01:46 AM

Clark County? I live in clark County! ...

oh wait, that was Wis. whew!

:)

Teresa


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 10:08 PM

Easily distracted?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,me
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 08:58 PM

I just figured that my dull, boring life would be immediately be given new purpose and meaning if I contributed to this thread. Thank you for your time. I feel better already.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 03:50 PM

Had we but whirled enough....and thyme!
This couscous, lady, were no crime....


Don't worry pal, I've done my share of hard thyme for such offenses. They forgive, eventually, because they know you are under stress.

But at my back, I always hear
Thyme's winged chariot, hurrying near.....




SLAM.....click...




No, no parole. Certainly not. Why do you ask??


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 03:38 PM

There I was, stripping leaves off of fresh herbs and reciting some of my favorite quotations:

Had I but sage enough, and thyme....

The thyme is out of joint....

Thyme enough for love....

and my wife got so sick to her little tummy that she sent me to thyme out corner.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 01:42 PM

Actually, Maggie, it wasn't a "Well, duh!" that was supposed to come after "Not only do many Renn Faire folks like to play with knives, they like to fantasize a bit." It was a "No shit!"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 12:38 PM

Gee, I was in the service in 1963 and never once did that.

But enough reminiscences of my misspent youth. I'm off to the store to purchase the ingredients for an Irish stew, and although I very well may roux this, we're going to have a St. Pat's Day Gathering on the 19th, which is really the Feast Day of St. Joseph. But since Patrick's real name was Succat and not Patrick, I doubt that either saint will mind.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 11:40 AM

NEILLSVILLE, Wis. Feb 26, 2005 ? A 63-year-old man is charged with sexual gratification with an animal for allegedly having sex with calves.


Harold G. Hart, of Neillsville, allegedly told police that he routinely stopped at a Greenwood farm, usually after bar closing or on trips to strip clubs near Marshfield or Neillsville.


A criminal complaint filed in Clark County Circuit Court said the farm's owners installed a motion detector on Jan. 22 after regularly seeing footprints and vehicle tracks on their land. Around 4 a.m. the next morning, a sensor sounded and Hart was caught leaving the barn, but Hart allegedly said he just used a bathroom in the barn and had never been there before.





Hart told police he had sex with heifers before he went into the service in 1963 and resumed about a year ago at the farm. He admitted to using a rope to tie calves around the neck and estimated he had been to the farm "at least 50 times," according to the complaint.


He told police he never had sex with animals while maintaining a relationship with his a girlfriend or his wife, the complaint said.


Hart also is charged with disorderly conduct and two counts of obstructing an officer. Each charge carries up to nine months in jail.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 10:45 AM

I was here, I was trying. Amos, do you know many different ways you can arrange four "6s" into groups of three "6s" to scare the fundies with? You can even turn 'em upside down!

Actually, I'm thinking of getting one of these. Forget the two handers; I'd rather have a targe and a good, light sword. Block the blow, move in, do the job (even through joints in plate armor) and move back out.

Actually, were I really engaged in armed combat, I want one of these. Or, better still one of these.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 10:34 AM

I started finding poetry to do with swords, but how can one top Beowulf? When I encounted
"For all the haft twinkled with diamond sparks,
Myriads of topaz-lights, and jacinth-work
Of subtlest jewellery."

I knew I'd found the apex, the acme, the ULTIMATE and most ancient reference to swordplay. I could have pasted it into each post thereafter, but that would have dulled the experience of encountering that marvelous passage.

So there.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 10:26 AM

Counting posts shall be null and void unless they contain some redeeming social merit, worthy BS, creative shenanigan or entertainment value in written form. The presence of a mere number no matter how signficiant shall not qualify as MOAB material.

Handbook of MOAB Participation -- A Guide to Better Bullshit, P. Jenkins, H. Darworthy, F. Fiddler, S. Breakstone, T.V. Candellini, P. Rinkstrom and D.H. Nehriniano-Merriwether, Kluge University Press, Montreal, 2003, 3rd Ed.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 10:20 AM

I just want Rapaire to know that I tried to leave this for him, but apparently our librarian is out sword fighting with the Pocatello police and the local library board. And if I didn't swoop in and get this, Flaming bonkers Ted might have arrived and trounced the thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 10:15 AM

6666


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 10:14 AM

6665


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 10:14 AM

6664


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 10:14 AM

Geez, this is hard to do in broad daylight--6663?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 10:12 AM

In this passage, from the last full poem, "The Passing of Arthur," the dying Arthur commands Bedivere to dispose of Excalibur. The figure of the sword is important in both Idylls and Beowulf, as discussed below.

There drew he forth the brand Excalibur,
And o'er him, drawing it, the winter moon,
Brightening the skirts of a long cloud, ran forth
And sparkled keen with frost againts the hilt;
For all the haft twinkled with diamond sparks,
Myriads of topaz-lights, and jacinth-work
Of subtlest jewellery. He gazed so long
That both his eyes were dazzled as he stood,
This way and that dividing the swift mind,
In act to throw; but at the last it seem'd
Better to leave Excalibur conceal'd
There in the many-knotted water-flags,
That whistled stiff and dry about the marge.
So strode he back slow to the wounded King. (220-33)

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 10:11 AM

With toys like this or this.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 10:07 AM

Not only do many Renn Faire folks like to play with knives, they like to fantasize a bit.

Mom, I don't want to be rude to the other kids, but I just have to add a "Well, Duh" to this statement. Talk about stating the obvious! I thought this was compulsory in Renn Faire participation. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 10:05 AM

Well, hmmm...when I was in grad school at Case Western Reserve (Cleveland, Ohio, and home of the famous Michaelson-Morley Experiment for all you physics buffs) the local SCA had a seperate "house." One Spring evening, when the SCAers were all sitting inside polishing their halberds or whatever SCAers do of an evening, they heard some serious screams from just outside. Seems like the members of a local gang were beating a young kid. Being good citizens, the SCAers grabbed maces, swords, warhammers, rapiers, morning stars, and other such stuff that is found in every American home, slammed on their helms, and ran to the rescue. Seldom, if ever, has Cleveland seen a gang of gangers being chased down the Euclid Avenue by a bunch of weapon-wielding oddities. The cops, who eventually arrived, were impressed and applauding the good citizenship of the SCAers. The gang, which was trying to form, left the area to SCA.

(This was reported in one of the local newspapers, but it was 28 years back....)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 08:42 AM

That guy was obviously wigged. He just happened to have a sword available. If not, he would have used a pitchfork, a cricket bat, a length of pipe or the ever-popular fireplace poker. When's the last time someone used a sword to commit a crime in which psychosis wasn't a factor?

And, Layah, I don't doubt that the fire-eater who told me that story was "embellishing" it a bit. Not only do many Renn Faire folks like to play with knives, they like to fantasize a bit.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 08:17 AM

They tend to be concealed in a tripod bag. Very useful for long, thin things. Tripod, swords and french bread.


This was the most recent sword attack in Britian I found

28/10/1999
Nude swordsman attacks churchgoers
Eleven people have been injured in a sword attack at a church in south London.

A naked man wielding a 3 ft (91 cm) Samurai sword burst into St Andrew's Roman Catholic church in Thornton Heath, Croydon, during Sunday Mass.

The man indiscriminately attacked parishioners - injuring four of them critically - before he was overpowered by members of the congregation.

Police have said they are holding a 26-year-old local man in custody.


The prize: Going to have to invent fast here. Hmmm...

E:Against that time, if ever that time comes: Not marble, nor the gilded mountains

N:A heart that deviseth wicked imagination, feet that be swift running to mischief

At

Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solice ourselves with loves.

By (DD/MM)

Her ways are ways of pleasentness, and all he paths are peace.

Or before, and look around you.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Layah
Date: 06 Mar 05 - 08:16 AM

Bee Dubya I don't know about among the Renn Faire crowd, but in the SCA there is an apocraphyl story about the first female knight in the SCA getting held up in New York after and SCA event. She was wearing a cloak over her costume, and the guys demanded her money she refused. One took out a knife, and she pulled out her sword and said "I'll see your six and raise you 39" It would be neat if it were true, I don't know if it is or not, but it sounds awfully similar to your story.

Bunn you carry those swords around in a bag don't you? I figure if the cops stop you for some other reason and decide they really don't like you you might get in trouble, but I can't imagine them stopping you on the possibility that there might be swords in your bag. It seems pretty absurd that a knife crime law is affecting swords, couldn't they right in some kind of exception? I've never heard of swords used in street crime, murder with swords. They're just too hard to hide.

Swords can be concealed weapons. They have really strict concealed weapons laws in California, and some of the swords you can't buy because of it are umbrella swords, cane swords, and katana with no hand gaurd, which in my opinion still looks like a katana but apperently you might somehow think it was just a stick I guess.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 11:13 PM

However...

I was talking with a fire-eater at a renaissance faire a few years ago who claimed to have had one of those "Crocodile Dundee 'That's not a knife, this is a knife!'" experiences. He said he was busking in some city in the wintertime and was wearing a long cape over his usual costume which included a cutlass. The punks who tried to roll him for the money he'd collected during the day changed their minds when he flipped his cape back and nonchalantly pulled 24-inches of silvered steel from his scabbard.

Those Ren Faire and SCA people do like to play with knives.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 10:41 PM

Well, usually swords aren't considered concealed weapons, although I guess that if they were in sheaths they might be, if the cop was an idiot.

It's like flintlock pistols and rifles. They ARE weapons, but when was the last time you heard of someone using one in a holdup or shootout? "Stand and deliver!" went out a few years ago, unless you're a politician.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 09:54 PM

They're not switchblade swords are they, Bunn? You can't conceal 'em can ya? I mean, when you go walking down the street with them don't people go, "Hey! There's a guy with some swords!"? Then whatta the police need to be worried about? When's the last time someone in Scotland was attacked by someone wielding a sword?

And anyway, if the cops crack down on knives won't it be kind of hard on the restaurant trade? People will have a hard time eating their steaks and chops with forks alone. Will sausages be the only kind of meat allowed?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 09:45 PM

It seems there's always something interfering with the quality time I want to spend out in my yard. 'Puter stuff again this weekend (sorry, MOM, that's all I'll say about it, 'cause I've almost finished shopping for all of the stolen bits now.) I have a few down branches, and I have to put up a couple of sections of fence. I did fill my lawnmower gas can this afternoon, so I'm ready for the season.

14 to go to a really big one, so Rapaire, if you're aiming at it, you'd better be paying attention.
SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 06:40 PM

Thank you Bee-dubya-ell, thank you! talking about something other than the weather! It is only one step above computer stuff, and we all know that Mom doesn't like us talking dirty like that. Behave, and if you've not got anything to say, don't say it!

Now, living 100 yards from a police station, how long before I get stopped over the swords I'm carrying about too much at the moment? I think the latest anti-knife campaign started 3 weeks ago.
Any correct guesses may win a small and mysterious prize!

Explaining why google has picked up car credit as the thing we need would also be good...

Bunnahabhain


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 05:02 PM

My personal cleanup from Hurricane Ivan is about 50% completed, Amos. We pretty much spent all of January cutting and burning fallen trees. All of our walking paths through the property are cleared and the area around the house is pretty much cleaned up. There are still lots of fallen trees toward the front of the property that haven't been dealt with, but I'll get to 'em when I get to'em.

Area-wide, there are still lots of folks waiting for insurance settlements, contractors to become available etc. Lots of houses still have tarps on their roofs over five months after the storm. Everyone's wishing they'd get the I-10 bridge repaired so traffic could get back to normal. It's so much hassle to get across the temporary bridge they built that everyone avoids it so all the other routes are jammed up too.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 04:56 PM

For Pocatello, Idaho (the next 10 days):

Tonight
Mar 05                 Clear                     25°         10 %
Sun
Mar 06                 Mostly Sunny         50°/30°         0 %
Mon
Mar 07                 Partly Cloudy         50°/32°         10 %
Tue
Mar 08                 Partly Cloudy         52°/29°         0 %
Wed
Mar 09                 Partly Cloudy         49°/30°         20 %
Thu
Mar 10                 Partly Cloudy         51°/32°         20 %
Fri
Mar 11                 Partly Cloudy         56°/34°         20 %
Sat
Mar 12                 Partly Cloudy         55°/32°         20 %
Sun
Mar 13                 Partly Cloudy         53°/26°         20 %
Mon
Mar 14                 Partly Cloudy         48°/26°         0 %


Quelle bore, n'est pas? And being dry country, a 50F feels like 70.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Layah
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 01:10 PM

The highest high in Edinburgh in the next ten days is 44. Bout the same as your lows. Plus rain half the week. I wouldn't mind the cold if I got the benefit of some snow, but no, just freezing cold rain and always cloudy cloudy. Next time I study abroad (as if I'm ever going to have that opportunity again) I'll do better research into the local weather. And the exchange rate. Wouldn't it be nice to go somewhere where I'm rich.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 01:06 PM

Hey BeeDub -- I think I got some of your rain over here, pal. Ya want it back?

Oh, BTW, you ever finish cleaning up after that hurricane that wrecked the State? Or is that still a work in progress? How's that Governator of yours doing? What was his name again?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 12:01 PM

Forecast for Pensacola, FL

Saturday: Sunny to partly cloudy. High around 70F. Winds W at 10 to 15 mph.

Saturday night: Cloudy intervals. Low 49F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph.

Sunday: A few passing clouds, otherwise generally sunny. High 66F. Winds NW at 5 to 10 mph.

Sunday night: A few clouds. Low near 50F. Winds light and variable.

Monday (24 hours): Times of sun and clouds. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the upper 40s.

Tuesday (24 hours): Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the upper 50s and lows in the low 40s.

And it just goes on like that.... Disgusting. ain't it?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 11:24 AM

    San Diego, CA   
    Updated 03-04-2005 02:51 PM at San Diego - CA
    Detailed Forecast
    Today:
    Tonight: A few showers this evening with overcast skies overnight. Thunder possible. Low around 55F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%.
    Tomorrow: Mostly cloudy skies early, then partly cloudy in the afternoon. High near 65F. Winds NW at 10 to 15 mph.
    Tomorrow night: A few showers early with clearing later at night. Low near 55F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%.

Looks like much of the same for Ol' Amos for the rest of the weekend. Cheer up, it looks like that here in Fort Worth also.

    Fort Worth, TX   
    Updated 03-04-2005 03:53 PM at Fort Worth - TX
    Detailed Forecast

    Today: Cloudy skies. High 61F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph.
    Tonight: Some clouds. Low 48F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph.
    Tomorrow: Mostly cloudy skies early will become partly cloudy later in the day. High 67F. Winds ENE at 5 to 10 mph.
    Tomorrow night: Mostly cloudy. Low around 50F. Winds light and variable.

Only maybe not quite as wet.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 05 Mar 05 - 03:25 AM

And Blue Was Gone

Lying on her back looking at cement colored sky
Crimson flowers grow around her body creating pedal necktie
Ocean in the distance blends a salty lullabye.

And Blue was Gone

Reaching for a scent of air that caught a sigh
Touching a moment each glimpse would escape from the eye(s)
Feeling at that instant that the whisper was going to die.

And Blue was Gone

Cardboard world, cardboard houses, cardboard melody
Shot of whiskey colored carmel world was all that she could see
Round and round the merry-go-round, chase the monkey up the tree.

And Blue was Gone

Sheets of pedal white, layered with purple mist
Crowding out the angry sound of gray pounding fist
Filters smoke ring rising, breathing grounded spiral twist.

And Blue was Gone

Sheltered by a color, softened by the song
Causing pale beats of a soft heart frightened too long
Textured by memory fading away from the dawn.

And Blue was Gone


Dedicated to all MOABOSISISIS With Great fondness of heart and loving cumliness. Susie


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 11:36 PM

Yeah, we recognized your typing. :)

I told on of our librarians about the MOAB today, (even though I realized that I was risking being found out for all the time I waste BS-ing here). But as I told her about BWLs dog story, there were literally tears streaming from her eyes she was laughing so hard. So at least one librarian had a better than usual day, Rapaire!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 09:48 PM

Why do you think that was anonymous, Bee Dubya?

Hell's balls -- even I could tell it was you!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 09:24 PM

Big fun, huh?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 09:23 PM

Amos has stinky feet!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 09:23 PM

Amos is booooooored....

So log out and insult people anonymously!

Like this:


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 07:31 PM

It is raining again and I am booooooored....


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 06:02 PM

Good point, Layah. Luge is pronounced more like stooge, or stoodzhe. The French liquid rooj is too soft for such a klugy concept as kluge.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 12:55 PM

How about 7733.5?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 12:25 PM

I just noticed I got #6633! Can't wait until 8844.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 12:05 PM

Ugly.

You'll need speakers and a media player.

I'm a-gittin' tired of this....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 04 Mar 05 - 11:59 AM

Pop to the top - which is differenet then hop on pop
which I for one don't want to picture Mom doing -
though i do want Mom to be on top -

and this whole thing is giving mental images that could cost me a bundle in psych care.

so instead - - -

"Refresh"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Mar 05 - 06:45 PM

"The bullshitter . . . does not reject the authority of the truth, as the liar does, and oppose himself to it. He pays no attention to it at all. By virtue of this, bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are."




 


Excerpt:

On Bullshit

Harry G. Frankfurt

Princeton University


One of the most salient features of our cul-ture is that there is so much bullshit. Everyone knows this. Each of us contributes his share. But we tend to take the situation for granted. Most people are rather confident of their ability to recognize bullshit and to avoid being taken in by it. So the phenomenon has not aroused much deliberate concern, or attracted much sustained inquiry. In conse-quence, we have no clear understanding of what bullshit is, why there is so much of it, or what functions it serves. And we lack a conscientiously developed appreciation of what it means to us. In other words, we have no theory. I propose to begin the development of a theoretical understanding of bullshit, mainly by providing some tentative and exploratory philosophical analysis. I shall not consider the rhetorical uses and misuses of bullshit. My aim is simply to give a rough account of what bullshit is and how it differs from what it is not, or (putting it somewhat differently) to articulate, more or less sketchily, the structure of its concept. Any suggestion about what conditions are logically both necessary and sufficient for the constitution of bullshit is bound to be somewhat arbitrary.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Teresa
Date: 03 Mar 05 - 05:35 PM

Yeah, I believe in People's choice or somesuch other kind of awards. The english language is dynamic and should be allowed to change and evolve. Words should be allowed to mean what the majority of users want them to mean. Mostly. Somewhat. Here and there.

there's my protest. Martin can have his award. :D

teresa


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 03 Mar 05 - 04:32 PM

Speaking of banjos, I noticed that Steve Martin didn't have his with him when he appeared on the Mark Twain Award program for Lorne Michaels last night. (They did play a clip of the first Blues Brothers song, and Paul Simon was there to sing "Still Crazy After All These Years.")


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Mar 05 - 03:28 PM

Watch it, Martin. They're gonna play "Dueling Banjos" again.


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