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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Aug 11 - 08:15 PM

Bravery is always to be admired and respected...in either a friend or an enemy.

It saddens me that many show great bravery while serving political causes that are unjust and political policies that are tragically mistaken.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 03 Aug 11 - 08:09 PM

I posted earlier, but see it didn't go through. Heat warping the lines, no doubt.

Too bad there is no attribution to that Hot as Hell Texas poem, just repeated postings of it. People are so lazy!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 03 Aug 11 - 07:41 PM

True of many branches of many armed services of many countries. I very much admire the US Marine Corps for their "Never leave a man behind, dead or alive." committment. True valour and true bravery and true SERVICE to each other. They are indeed to be revered and commended.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Aug 11 - 04:54 PM

I've worked with scores of Marines, and they were the finest human beings you cou8ld want to meet. Not one of them considered himself an "ex"-Marine. The Corps was in their very cells.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 03 Aug 11 - 12:55 PM

"a new ex-Marine to some of the other guys. " since he's visiting, I assume he isn't dead - which means he never made it through boot camp? Those, I am told, are the only conditions under which you have ex-marines.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 03 Aug 11 - 06:19 AM

Found this on the internut...


Ode to Texas

The devil wanted a place on earth
Sort of a summer home
A place to spend his vacation
Whenever he wanted to roam.

So he picked out Texas
A place both wretched and rough
Where the climate was to his liking
And the cowboys hardened and tough.
He dried up the streams in the canyons
And ordered no rain to fall
He dried up the lakes in the valleys
Then baked and scorched it all.
Then over his barren country
He transplanted shrubs from hell.
The cactus, thistle and prickly pear
The climate suited them well.

Now the home was much to his liking
But animal life, he had none.
So he created crawling creatures
That all mankind would shun.
First he made the rattlesnake
With it's forked poisonous tongue.
Taught it to strike and rattle
And how to swallow it's young.

Then he made scorpions and lizards
And the ugly old horned toad.
He placed spiders of every description
Under rocks by the side of the road.
Then he ordered the sun to shine hotter, Hotter and hotter still.
Until even the cactus wilted
And the old horned lizard took ill.

Then he gazed on his earthly kingdom
As any creator would
He chuckled a little up his sleeve
And admitted that it was good.
'Twas summer now and Satan lay
By a prickly pear to rest.
The sweat rolled off his swarthy brow
So he took off his coat and vest.

"By Golly," he finally panted,
"I did my job too well,
I'm going back to where I came from,
Texas is hotter than Hell."



Please Lord, now that he's gone, won't you send rain?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Aug 11 - 02:24 AM

I like cats ... but I can hardly ever eat a whole one !


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Aug 11 - 12:31 AM

My nephew and his pup, Selena, is ensconced in the guest suite. Having driven from Reno both are quite pooped. Tomorrow I may take him up the Legion Hovel and introduce a new ex-Marine to some of the other guys.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 02 Aug 11 - 10:53 PM

Degeneracy! Rapparee and his nephew are singing bathroom lyrics so loudly I can hear them bellowing across town!

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 02 Aug 11 - 08:48 PM

MOM, what are you doing down here with the riff raff?

Watching Rocky Horror Picture Show? Oh, okay. But come upstairs to finish it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 02 Aug 11 - 04:36 PM

A... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 11 - 03:58 PM

A lot of talent going to waste, there, Rapp.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 02 Aug 11 - 03:07 PM

Rap... I LOVE IT!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Aug 11 - 02:22 PM

I'm working on a new Christmas song. So far I've got:

Reindeer poo falling from the sky
That's how you tell that Santa's nigh
Poop that on the ground just lays
That's how you know it's Christmas Day.

The tune, of course, is "The Ballad of the Green Berets."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 11 - 01:19 PM

In my book, a cat too aloof becomes a loofa.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Aug 11 - 12:35 PM

Yup. ;-) Dogs are often the most loving of spirits. Some cats are too, although many of them are quite aloof.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 11 - 12:30 PM

As long as they can communicate and are affectionate, any species will do in a pinch...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 02 Aug 11 - 10:37 AM

I should note that the dogs are excellent company. When an otherwise sleeping dog does a small tail wag when I walk into the room, that little salute speaks volumes. They are a reflection of things I don't think about often - the fact that my pit bull learned to smile is such a delightful gesture, because I realize I smiled at her enough for her to learn what it means and to figure out how to do it.

So, alone as far as other human occupants, but happily ensconced with two dogs.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Aug 11 - 10:19 AM

Shall I bring in Teilhard de Chardin's Omega Point or McLuhan's Global Village at this point? Or suggest re-reading "Childhood's End"?

Of course we are all stuck in our physical shells. Sometimes, once in a rare while, something will join two or more together and when it happens it goes beyond "love".


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 05:51 PM

As with all things, consciousness is a gradient phenomenon, and its degrees of separation or closeness of unity are infinite in number, not discrete states. But even in the state of "normal" separation, two people can build a strong union between them over time that is close to telepathic and highly rewarding. It requires an interesting series of encounters, exchanges, compromises, victories and surrenders which constitute a fine voyage in their own right!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 05:21 PM

Well said, Eiseley!

As physical beings with outer personalities we are irrevocably solitary. Our very identity as individuals has defined us that way.

Most of the spiritual material I read, though, suggests to me that this is "the illusion of separation", as we are all part of a single Unity in Spirit, and in a very intimate way, but we don't perceive that when we exist here in separate bodies. We perceive ourselves as irrevocably separated from one another. Sex is very pleasurable, because it seems briefly to remove the sense of separation and achieve a short-lived unity.

The only way to permanently end the sense of separation is to achieve a unitive consciousness (known as "enlightenment" or "Self-realization" in the Eastern traditions).

That's something most people never even think about. Nor do they strive for it. Nor does their society encourage them to. Only a few spiritual students here and there strive for it, so it's something that occurs quietly in most societies, gets little notice, and goes unremarked upon most of the time.

When in a unitive consciousness you don't just love "this one" or "that one", you love everyone and everything in an undemanding and unconditional fashion...because you realize that they are you and you are they and there IS no separation.

Individuals who have achieved a Unitive consciousness are very rare. I think I've met one such, and I've met one or two others who were getting close to it. You can tell, because it's wonderful just to be around them. They are very peaceful, positive, full of positive energy and ideas, highly motivated, friendly, lively, relaxed, hardworking, and kind. They render much service unto others.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 05:08 PM

I agree with what Rilke said: "And to speak of solitude again, it becomes clearer and clearer that fundamentally this is nothing that one can choose or refrain from. We are solitary. We can delude ourselves about this and act as if it were not true. That is all. But how much better it is to recognize that we are alone; yes, even to begin from this realization."

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 05:06 PM

I liked the watermelon joke, Rapparee.

I'd much rather be alone, and I am happily so, than to be stuck. Right now, even though there is no living significant other, the three very significant young 'uns take up as much of my active energy as I could wish.

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 04:30 PM

Good stuff. ;-) You have realized that you are perfectly allright on your own. If more people did realize that, they wouldn't dive into romantic relationships just to escape their fear OF being alone.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 04:22 PM

There's one guy down here trying pretty hard to get my attention. He's smart, funny, not too bad to look at. Enough older than me that I see that as a bit of a negative, but he's fit, probably more fit than I am. But when I try to imagine fitting a significant other into my life right now, I just can't do it. Like you two, I am fine on my own, I keep myself entertained, and some of the things that interest me keep me so busy that others might dismiss the amount of attention I spend. My garden for example, is important, organic practices are important, and food preservation is important. I am sure that the Little Red Hen story is true - they'd come around for the cooking and eating part of the garden, but not the digging, planting weeding, hovering over part. Why enter a relationship with someone who will dismiss my interests? I'm the same way about several things that interest me, and until some smart rich good looking hunk who doesn't practice passive-aggression comes along and sweeps me off my feet, I'm fine where I am. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 04:15 PM

My hands haven't been anywhere where I wouldn't choose to go, Rapparee.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 04:01 PM

Nothing wrong with shaking hands.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 03:28 PM

They'd do that after where THOSE hands have been?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 02:37 PM

If the day ever comes when Gnu and Little Hawk get to shake hands, watch out! ... ;>)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 02:30 PM

I have said, "I'd rather be lonely alone." Made that come true over ten years back. Not that I am lonely now. Absolutely not. Of course, being a male still in ah, er, you know, I still get awful ah, er, you know.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 02:16 PM

Maybe y'all should read Martin Heidegger's "Being and Truth." Decent book for a near-existentialist.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 01:57 PM

You probably have no idea with what complete equanamity and thorough enjoyment I appreciate the single life, people... ;-) I love it. It leaves me free to quietly be me and do what I enjoy doing. It is in no way disappointing to me nor do I feel in the least deprived by not having a "significant other" at my elbow.

Women friends? Yup! Got several of those, and I like them. Female friends are great. Girlfriend or wife? Nope. And I don't miss them.

That's not to say I might not at some point get back into such a relationship. It's always possible, and I'm open to the possibility if someone came along that I felt that way about and the feeling was mutual. But I'm not looking around for it, and I don't miss it.

You know what loneliness really is? Loneliness is not liking your own company. And the worst kind of loneliness is being lonely IN a relationship or in the middle of a crowded party. That's just bloody awful. I'm not lonely these days, and haven't been in a long time. I think I was last lonely sometime back in the 90s.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 01:40 PM

She was any number of people I've seen.

Claudette, who went out with my friend Brian in the 70s was one such. Hell, I've seen thousands of girls like that. I see them in the shopping malls playing their little games. ;-)

As for those I've actually gone out with...hmmm...? Well, I had one that was considerably WORSE than the very common and tawdry type I described in my example. Far worse. The girl I was describing in my example was just regular, run-of-the-mill, it's a very common situation, but she was not directly inspired by anyone I've gone out with myself...just something I've observed around me. And I might just as well have used a guy in that example. They often play mind games on their girlfriends too.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 01:29 PM

He doesn't remember, and she's gone now, since he dropped a watermelon on her from top of that tall tower in Toronto.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 01:21 PM

Re eg #2... what was her name, LH?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 01:00 PM

I think you're right, Amos. The one essential truth is Being. Being, however, is constantly re-inventing itself into new forms of Being and that's where change comes in...but...it's all happening now, because it always IS now and it always will be! ;-)

Human beings spend much of their time trying to escape the present. They seem to regard it as an obstacle (or a disappointment), and that is the fundamental error in their state of consciousness.

Example: A man stopped at a traffic light, impatiently drumming his fingers on the wheel and muttering, "Change, damn it!"

He isn't comfortable with the present. He refuses to embrace it. He turns his experience of the present into frustration.

Example 2: A girl is uncomfortable with her relationship with her boyfriend, because he isn't perfect...like the movie idols she dreams about. So she plays mind games on him and makes him jealous in order to introduce a little drama into a situation she's basically bored with.

She isn't comfortable with the present. She refuses to embrace it. She refuses to experience love fully in the present, but imagines it occurring in some ideal future...a future which will probably never arrive.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 12:20 PM

I have briefly arrived at the conclusion that in the maelstrom of human Becoming, the only truth is Being. But that those enmeshed in the maelstrom cannot connect with Being, as they are immersed in the trials and tribulations of becoming. This may be the most fundamental statement of the problem yet.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 10:20 AM

There was rain, rain, lovely rain!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 01 Aug 11 - 09:53 AM

Little Hawk, it has been done, to some degree. David Letterman has done pranks like this for years. This is an old one.

Gnu, things may not always be bigger here, but lately, they're certainly hotter here.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 11 - 11:22 PM

The best thing to do with a really LARGE watermelon is to haul it up to the top of the CN Tower, take it out on the observation deck, and throw it off...having first, of course, cleared the square below of passersby. The result is spectacular! Or it would be...if the police and the city would only let me do it... (sigh)

Another unrealized dream.

(* The CN Tower is the tallest building in Canada. And that's damn tall! For awhile I think it was the tallest in the world.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 31 Jul 11 - 09:41 PM

I love Rapparee. He makes good jokes.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 31 Jul 11 - 07:11 PM

There was a gathering of LDS Bishops here at the same time and hotel the Idaho Legion was meeting. Both asked that watermelon be served, but the Legion as that it be charged beforehand with 100 proof vodka.

Well, the chef got the two orders mixed up and he sent a waiter to see what was going on. The waiter came back and reported that the Legion was proceeding in its meeting quite well, and were quite well behaved.

"And the bishops?" asked the chef.

"They're running around shoving watermelon seeds in their pockets," replied the waiter.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 31 Jul 11 - 06:30 PM

Claudine used to cut an oblong hole in a watermelon al la pumpkin style, scoop out the guts, mash it, pour in vodka and white rum and crushed ice, put it back in the melon and carve a space in the "lid' she cut out for a ladle.

I had a large glass one day whilst sitting in a lawn chair admiring the beach bunnies through my sunglasses on the edge of the lawn of the last cottage on the beach next to Parlee Beach (world famous Parlee Beach). It was about 35C. You couldn't taste the booze until you woke up.... can you say "Reach out and grab you by the booboo!"?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 31 Jul 11 - 06:11 PM

HUge watermelons are a wonderful thing in a large household, a company picnic, or a hootenanny. But in an ordinary household they have to constantly be taken out of the fridge, small slices taken off and then pout back into the fridge with Saran Wrap over them. A large watermelon can last a week this way in a small household, and a huge one, two or three weeks. The labor in moving it around is enormous!!
However it shares the advantage that it can suck up a half-gallon of vodka without leaking.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 31 Jul 11 - 01:56 PM

A... it's "g"nu to you, sir.

SRS... is everything bigger in Texas? I just saw watermelons ($3.33 a piece each? HOW can they grow, ship, handle them AND make money at $3.33?) at the Coop and they are at LEAST 1.5 times the size as the Florida watermelons. HUGE I say.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 31 Jul 11 - 01:45 PM

Ah, Amos and LH. Even for those of us with no religious leanings know about Jonathan Edwards and his Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God. It's one of the "cultural literacy" things that goes along with learning American History. "The arrows of death fly unseen at noonday; the sharpest sight can't discern them. God has so many different unsearchable ways of taking wicked men out of the world and sending 'em to hell, that there is nothing to make it appear that God had need to be at the expense of a miracle, or go out of the ordinary course of his providence, to destroy any wicked man, at any moment."

It did have something to do with the conversation several dozen posts back. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 31 Jul 11 - 01:16 PM

Pish, tush, sirrah. I bite my paycheck in your general direction. Your asnide superiority is a thin veneer for the deep mortal torture underneath. My condolences for your pain.

I am going to the Getaway to sing the long night through with my dearest friends. I have invited ALL of Mom's sibs to join me, including Little Hawk and Gnu. The Manne of Emms and the Manne of Booques have accepted. I do beseech the Fayre Ladyes Eiseley and Stilly to come as well. And Little Hawk, who would add much to the merriment. How could a manne of his mettle decline? He hies himself to Cuba, but the joys of Maryland have thus far escaped him!! Come on, laggard dolt!! :D

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 11 - 11:39 AM

Those who are all-powerful can afford to be all-merciful. It is those who fear the limits of their reach who take vengeance and mete out punishment. Only an insecure and fearful God would punish mortals for going astray.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 31 Jul 11 - 11:07 AM

I shall let him continue his worthless, drab life, trudging day after day to meaningless work where he must associate with drab, meaningless co-workers like a hamster in a wheel or Sisyphus perpetually rolling his boulder to the top of the hill only to have it roll back to the bottom while, like Prometheus, he is bound to the rock of a job while vultures and ravens of the less capable feast upon his guts but unlike Prometheus this will be done as a caprice, a whim on my part, instead of a punishment. There will be no punishment, for I am All-Merciful.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 11 - 11:05 AM

Go right ahead and defy me, sir! It will do you no good. I laugh at your pitiable defiance. Ha!


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