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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Feb 11 - 10:22 PM

Good point about the Arctic peoples. I've been studying Taoist and traditional Chinese medicine for many years, and they talk a lot about diet. They say that if you live in a very cold climate, then you DO need to eat a diet heavy in fatty meats in order to combat the cold effectively. That's because cold is strong Yin energy (water and anything that cools) and meats (specially red meat) are full of strong Yang energy (fire and things that cause warmth).

Naturally the Inuit and far northern people had to eat a diet heavy in meat, regardless of the fact that they are the descendants of beings that once probably developed in much warmer parts of the world, had the dentition to indicate that, and began by eating mostly fruits and vegetables that they scavenged, plus a little meat in all probability (rather as modern apes do in the wild). The fact that the Inuit were in a very cold climate went along perfectly with the food available....fish and game.

The food in a given climatic area is usually the perfect food FOR people in that climatic area. That's how nature functions, providing what suits the climate best. In the tropics, for example, fruit abounds, and it's well suited to meet people's dietary needs in that climate, but it would not be well suited to keep Inuit going in the depth of winter.

I would think that the more you are exposed to really cold outdoor weather, the more meat you need to stay strong and healthy.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Feb 11 - 09:45 PM

Oh, certainly. That's also why Americans eat (or ate) so much white bread. All I'm saying is that humans evolved to eat whatever they came across that didn't eat them first -- including each other.

By the way, the Arctic Peoples survived fat and healthy on a diet that was nearly ALL meat for some 10,000 years or thereabouts. Of course, they barely cooked their meat and thereby preserved the vitamins, etc. that were in it. The 19th Century Arctic explorers cooked the bejesus out of their meat and came down with roaring scurvy (among other things, of course). Coupled with ignorance, stupidity, pride, and lead-sealed food tins it killed off the Franklin Expedition. Those who will not learn from the natives....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Feb 11 - 07:13 PM

You're corrent, Rapaire. Dogs are also omnivores, and they will eat almost anything that they come across, although not some of the fruits, like citrus. But my point was that humans have teeth which indicates that their main diet should consist of plants, while dogs have teeth that indicate that their main diet should consist of animals.

A dog's teeth are intended to pierce and tear flesh of its prey...but they can be used to eat other foods. A human's teeth are intended to chop and grind plants and fruits, etc....but they can be used to eat other foods.

The difference between a mainly carniverous omnivore's teeth and a human's teeth are dramatic and obvious. The dog's teeth come to sharp points, particularly noticeable in a puppy, a bit less sharp as the dog grows older. A human's teeth do not come to sharp points, although they do possess a single set of small, dull canine teeth. I think it's pretty clear what Nature intended those vestigial canine teeth for: they are there for a last ditch defense, assuming the human gets attacked by a true carnivore, a creature which will be armed with many sharp teeth, not just one set of small and not very formidable canines.

I'm not saying humans shouldn't eat any meat. I'm saying they they have fallen into cultural patterns where they're eating far more of it than is good for their health...or their digestive tract.

They do it because it's fun, it tastes good, they associate it with affluence and success, it's convenient, and they're used to doing it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Feb 11 - 06:50 PM

Except that humans, like chimps, bonobos, and pigs have pointed "canine" teeth. Also, like the pig, the human digestive tract has evolved to handle meat, fruit and vegetation -- instead of only vegetation like the ruminants, horses, deer, and so forth. Nature made humans (and pigs) omnivores.

'Tis thought by many (most?) who think on these things that humans were scavengers, eating what was available: berries, roots, dead animals, fruits, etc. This is called "evolutionary adaptation" because it increases the ability of an organism to survive since it is not dependent upon, say, grasses that die off in a prolonged cold spell.

That is not to say that humans shouldn't cut down on their carnivorous diet. But we're built to eat 'most anything that comes our way, and in the past (and the present and perhaps again in the future) we have.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Feb 11 - 04:37 PM

Well, dogs are essentially mainly carnivores...you can tell that by looking at their teeth. Human beings aren't. They absolutely aren't. You can tell that by looking at their teeth. Human beings have teeth that are clearly designed by Nature to chop and crush vegetation and fruits, not inflict puncture wounds and rip out the throat or abdomen of their prey.

(some) People in ancient times got into eating meat in a big way because they were clever enough to learn how to use handheld weapons, thus making themselves very capable carnivores, and it was a quick, handy, exciting way of securing a lot of food fast...whereas growing plants and picking berries, etc. is a slow and not very exciting business.

Those people were also very good at killing OTHER people, so it's not surprising that meat-eating humans began to make their influence very strongly felt in primitive times. Meat-eating is basically the lifestyle of killers, because it always involves killing...either directly or by proxy.

Some human societies began to associate the eating of a lot of meat with being rich and successful...thus it became the ideal of all the poor people to live a life where they got to eat meat every day, and the more meat the better! That led to the North American lifestyle, where people now eat so goddamn much more meat than they need or that their bodies can handle that they are dying at record rates from heart disease and other degenerative ailments caused by their meat, sugar, and starch-centered diet. Plus, there's an epidemic of obesity, mostly due to that cruddy diet...and lack of exercise.

If she's a Vegan, she's living more naturally and healthfully than most people in this culture do.

p.s. I'm not a Vegan. I still eat more meat than I probably should, because I'm basically lazy, I'm accustomed to doing so, and it's convenient to do so. I am a product of the culture I was born in...but I'm very aware of it too, and of various possible alternatives.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Feb 11 - 04:11 PM

No, she's just a law professor*. Nice person, actually, for a vegan. She does feed her dogs meat, however.









*ALL professors are a bit strange.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Feb 11 - 10:55 AM

What are you on about, you silly man? ;-D I meant that I detest TVs, and you know it. I adore Dachshunds!

As for that woman in the video, she's got some kind of problem with her left eye. Watch the video for a bit, and you'll see what I mean. Really quite odd.

Matter of fact, her eyes seem a bit strange altogether, although she talks quite intelligently. Maybe she's one of those lizard people? ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Feb 11 - 09:46 AM

Too late! She's on your tail (so to speak) right now. She'll throw you in with Vick's pit bulls and you'll be licked to death!!! Hahahahahahaha!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 10:52 PM

I thought you liked dachshunds. Well, I'm gong to sic Rebecca on you (she has three at the moment).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 10:27 PM

Right on, Janie. I've never owned a television, though I've had to put up with them now and then, due to being in the company of people who did for various periods of time. And I detest the bloody things.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 10:11 PM

Well done, Sibs.

Waiting out the night in a cheap hotel in Asheville to attend an OCD workshop tomorrow.

It is a good experience, being reminded why I have not owned a television in 30 years. (I left my book on the kitchen counter this morning.)

If I wanted to spend an extra $10 dollars I could have my dachshund with me, if I had a dachsund.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 10:10 PM

If you have to ask why she would want a Dachshund, my dear fellow, there would be no use in telling you.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 09:32 PM

Eiseley, back to the grindstone, please! We want to to pass that Capstone test and come down here to GRADUATE.

I'm astonished at the 2,222nd wind that seems to be blowing around here with the Next Big Number.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 09:23 PM

Why would she want a dachshund when she has three sons? They are named biblically: Genesis, Exodus, and Leviticus. Their nicknames are Sis, Dus, and Cus.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 06:54 PM

So don't just stand there! Get a Dachshund.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 06:53 PM

Anymore


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 06:12 PM

Well, it's kinda like this. I know where Eiseley lives, and she's well up the hill from the railroad. And the river, for that matter. Actually, her house is near the Legion Hovel. Not that she has much truck with THOSE sorts, her being a sober, prim, and upstanding lady of the community and all. Why, once a couple of the Legionaires were draped on her front fence, drinking some sort of rotgut and capping Shakespeare lines for the next drink. One of them couldn't identify the play, act and scene of a quote and was getting all hot and bothered about it. Eiseley opened her upstairs window and yelled, "It's two a.m., the quote is from Kemp's 'Nine Daies Wonder' and not Shakespeare, and you two be off or I'll sic the dog on you!"

Eiseley doesn't have a dog.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 05:17 PM

He has no friends to help him now. Perhaps he'll die upon that train.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 04:41 PM

Brava, brava, Katherine Eiseley!
You are turning out preciseley
As your friends all knew you could
And your parents hoped you would!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 04:05 PM

Another meaning for Digitalis Itermediaris is: "One who causes another to have a heart attack."

Two down, one to go!

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 03:27 PM

I would not want you to asphixiate on my account, Amos. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 03:25 PM

I await your disclosures with bated breath -- not.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 03:04 PM

It would depend. Actually, one should check with the College of Heralds, both in England and Scotland. I shall do so when I have time, perhaps later today.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 02:26 PM

that would be trademark rights, not copyright


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 02:23 PM

Let's just see who can outsnub who around here, shall we?

Gentlemen! Prepare to elevate your noses!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 02:18 PM

Rapparee, you are such a snob and a pedant. I was not describing the family shield, merely the finger. Hence, I was not under the constraints of your unduly vaunted formalisms. Furthermore, in order to acheive the error you so wantonly attribute to me, the finger would also have be d'or, and that would infringe Mister Fleming's copyright, now wouldn't it? Of course, I wouldn't expect you to know anything about such arcane matters as intellectual property, as a long-time well-established member of the have-nots.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 01:19 PM

Impressive, man. Impressive. That was a post number of considerable import.

Being now a proud bearer of the Digitalis Intermediaris on Field d'Or, I intend to make a living by going around and giving lectures to awestruck audiences in places as far afield as Moosejaw and Cornerbrook. And I owe some of it to Amos. A tiny bit of it. Well, hardly enough worth metioning...but, still, let it not be said that I would fail to show appropriate gratitude to those who have made any contribution, no matter how small, to my magnificence. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 11:18 AM

Oh, by the way -- 39,700.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 11:17 AM

But I am certain you are not familiar with the nuances of heraldry.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 11:17 AM

Amos, if the rampant digit on a field d'or has no color specified it would be the same as the field and couldn't be seen. Now if you had specified, for example, "Rampant, the middle digit of the left hand sable, upon a field d'or" you'd have the contrast of black on gold. As it is, you have a washout.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 09:46 AM

My God. Amos has the Order of the Purple Raspberry, the much coveted OPR. He can now wear The Sash and The Medal to appropriate function, such as meeting with the Queen or the President. I assume, however, that it is the OPR Fourth Class, With Leaden Palms. Nothing higher has been given since Spiro Agnew croaked passed away.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 12:27 AM

ANd yours the Digitalis Intermediaris, old friend. Rampant, on field d'or.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 11:49 PM

Amos....that last post of yours was the apotheosis of quasi-intellectual bafflegab masquerading as genuine communication! Truly astounding. I salute you, sir. You have surpassed the limits of mere turgid and pretentious verbosity at its very best and reached beyond it to the Olympian heights of Unfathomably Ultimate BS!!!! (UUBS) This earns you the Purple Raspberry, a title sought by many, attained by very few indeed.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 09:46 PM

Undefinable, then. But that's okay, Amos. You can still be proud of your Undefinable sonnets.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 08:33 PM

Ity will not serve you, sir, to try to reduce my fine and delicate insights and inspirations into some ordinary wash of hyper-intellectual conversation by trotting out your Inventory of Literary Cliches for everyone's delectation. No, the genuine article will always stand out, the original glow of New Creation unquenchably surrounding it with a halo of Supreme Quality from which no torrent of mere mental liquidity may ever detract.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 07:09 PM

I hope His Noodly Appendage will touch MOAB on that magical day.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 07:01 PM

Of course....there would be...other burdens.

Gosh! This thread is really getting near the 40,000 mark. I pray every morning and night that William Shatner will be moved to visit us and grace us with his online presence at the great moment when we cross the line of 40K.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 06:54 PM

"Youse guys" should try being Shane for a few days. It's so much less complicated, and you'd be spared the burden of having to indulge in these exquisitely arcane and complex exercises in intellectual oneupmanship. ;-D


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 02:35 PM

Amos, are you referring to Petrachean, Shakespearian, Spenserian, or the "undefinable" type of sonnet? Each, of course, has its strengths and weaknesses, especially I suppose in English. The basic English iambic pentameter metric, compared with, say, the Italianate form, does lend itself well to the "Two S'es" forms, but the Petrachean seems to be more in vogue on the continent. And then of course there is the "undefinables"...you might well fit in there.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 12:59 PM

Some days when I drop in here and the subjects have gone through a rapid kaleidoscope of change, I want to sing this song.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 12:09 PM

Tommy Emmanuel? More mind-blowing even than Mark Knopfler? Anything on Youtube?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 12:01 PM

The classic sonnet--14 lines, ABABCDCDEFEFGG rhyming pattern, often in iambic pentameter--is defined as much by the nobility of its sentiment as by the lines of its structure. Some stirring examples:

"That time of year thou may'st in me behold..."
"Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?"
"When Rapparree pretends to know it all..."

Notice the trochees tripping lightly o'er the page...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 10:11 AM

No, I clipped the first three or four items off the tracert.

Listen, peoplele, listen: DO NOT TURN DOWN ANY OPPORTUNITY TO SEE TOMMY EMMANUEL PLAY LIvE!!


Saw him last night--an amazing fountainhead of life and the most mind-blowing guitarist going.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 10:00 AM

As he always says, "Spare the rod and spoil the fishing."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 09:59 AM

You can do it. In fact, you WILL do it...'cause if you don't I'll tell your father and you know what THAT means!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 09:08 AM

One down, two to go!

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 08:49 AM

Amos said:system net-trace between my domain and Mudcat's. It was actually several hops short



So it never got here? or had a "head start" from your place?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Feb 11 - 09:25 PM

So was the tracert I did. The last 15 or hops were the same as yours, though.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Feb 11 - 06:44 PM

"That last sonnet" was a system net-trace between my domain and Mudcat's. It was actually several hops short.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 15 Feb 11 - 06:30 PM

Geez! That is a pretty cool pitcher you posted there fer my future weddin', Rap. It has got me thinkin' some.

I ain't never been married before. So it might, like, be a cool thing to do, eh?

On toppa that this here Sheryl and her nutcase old man are becomin' a problenm that is way hard to, like, deal with, cos they are flippin' bent on me marryin' her, eh? And the old man might shoot me too, if'n I don't do right by her. I can't see lettin' that happen!

So maybe I should, like, bite the bullet and do it...

It would be majerly cool to have some little McBride kids runnin' around here, and I know that if I had a son I could, like, teach him all the stuff he needs to know, like, about growin' dope and drivin' snowmobiles and rollin' smokes and stuff. I could, like, groom him, eh? To, like, follow in my footsteps. Or if it was a daoughter, then...well, I would hafta get some advise on that from maybe Officer Dana or someone. There are the talent shows over at the Iron Horse, eh? The girls who win get to be servers there sometimes, long as they can, like, balance a tray with 12 beer on it.

The thing, is...gettin' married is a majer step and ya gotta be preepared to erne a desent livin' for yuerself and the fambly. I can't see Cheryl doin' much besides maybe workin' at the Timmies or the Vareyity store or somethin'...and anyways, she will be havin' to handle the baby fer awhiles...till he gets weened on to the beer, eh?

So that puts the load on me.

This means I am gonna have to take the bull by the mungoberries and bare DOWN!

I got a plan I am workin' on. Just wait and see.

- Shane


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