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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Amos 17 Jun 10 - 03:29 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 03:29 PM

Wikipedia reports:

"Probably around January 897, Stephen (VI) VII ordered that the corpse of his predecessor Formosus be removed from its tomb and brought to the papal court for judgement. With the corpse propped up on a throne, a deacon was appointed to answer for the deceased pontiff.

Formosus was accused of transmigrating sees in violation of canon law, of perjury, and of serving as a bishop while actually a layman. Eventually, the corpse was found guilty.

Liutprand and other sources say that Stephen had the corpse stripped of its papal vestments, cut off the three fingers of his right hand used for benedictions, and declared all of his acts and ordinations (including his ordination of Stephen (VI) VII as bishop of Anagni) invalid. The body was finally interred in a graveyard for foreigners, only to be dug up once again, tied to weights, and cast into the Tiber River.

According to Liutprand's version of the story, Stephen (VI) VII said: "When you were bishop of Porto, why did you usurp the universal Roman See in such a spirit of ambition?"[16]

The macabre spectacle turned public opinion in Rome against Stephen. Rumors circulated that Formosus' body, after washing up on the banks of the Tiber, had begun to perform miracles. A public uprising led to Stephen being deposed and imprisoned. While in prison, in July or August of 897, he was strangled.

In December 897, Pope Theodore II (897) convened a synod that annulled the Cadaver Synod, rehabilitated Formosus, and ordered that his body, which had been recovered from the Tiber, be reburied in Saint Peter's Basilica in pontifical vestments. In 898, John IX (898?900) also nullified the Cadaver Synod, convening two synods (one in Rome, one in Ravenna) which confirmed the findings of Theodore II's synod, ordered the acta of the Cadaver Synod destroyed, and prohibited any future trial of a dead person.

However, Pope Sergius III (904?911), who as bishop had taken part in the Cadaver Synod as a co-judge, overturned the rulings of Theodore II and John IX, reaffirming Formosus' conviction,[17] and had a laudatory epitaph inscribed on the tomb of Stephen (VI) VII."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 02:22 PM

Whoever called the Cadaver Synod.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 12:45 PM

Which Stephen VI? The one currently known as Stephen VI or the one formerly known as Stephen VI but now known as Stephen V?

(They were just Stephen in the day....)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 12:27 PM

Yup. He was in the running as well. So was Pope Stephen VI. Alexander VI was just a simple family man.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 12:00 PM

we would sit and argue for hours over whether Sisyphus or Prometheus was the best symbol for Mankind

How fruitless...surely Tantalus is a much better symbol then either Prometheus or Sisyphus?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 11:23 AM

I'm alright now, Amos, and I appreciate your concern. I took a whiff of smelling salts and a nice cup of tea and I'm fine now. It's just that I haven't been in that section of my library for so long I was a bit overcome for a moment. It brought back memories of long discussions over wine and Gauloises at the little tables of the sidewalk cafes during my college days, where we would sit an argue for hours over whether Sisyphus or Prometheus was the best symbol for Mankind and the exact meaning of "is" in the Tao Te Chin.

Those were the days, my friends
We thought they'd never end....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 11:03 AM

Warning: go easy on Bookman (Ret.); he has been slipping through the Looking Glass more frequently and additional stress might cause a permanent transition...


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 10:50 AM

Hmmm...here's Le Mythe de Sisyphe, and here's Marty Buber, and good ol' Sein und Zeit. The two Martys! And Ionesco! Haven't read Les Chaises in a month of Sundays! And La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu! Giraudoux, by crackey! And Ἡράκλειτος ὁ Ἐφέσιος! Lordy, I haven't been in this section of...Anicius Manlius Severinus Boëthius! Oh, my heart is fluttering a mile a minute! I must sit down and fan myself or I shall indeed swoom!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 07:18 AM

And here I was, thinking it was a slug that squished under my heel last night. Now I know why it was so hard to wash off.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 01:32 AM

Or Click and Clack. Whatever. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 01:31 AM

Janie, back in the neighborhood where I grew up the summers were great. We used to link together several garden hoses at our house and stretch about half-way up the next-door yard, and the friend across the street next to the park would do the same, and we'd meet in the middle with garden hoses and have a great water fight. We lived on a privileged, quiet, one-way street, so traffic was usually neighbors who knew us and who slowed and we moved out of the way, then continued the fight. We also played hide-and-seek a lot through the large landscaped yards (lots of evergreen hedges and small trees). Barefoot. And yes, the Pacific Northwest is known for it's large slugs. So often after our barefoot games, we'd go home and soak feet and scrub the slug slime off. Par for the course.

Amos and Rapaire, I was actually thrilled to see where you guys went with that little volatile thought I threw in, but the shit kicking boots just seemed to fit the occasion after a dozen philosophical outbursts. Know what I mean? Yin and Yang.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Jun 10 - 12:42 AM

Reality is born in agreement, ladies. No other provennce could account for it. Nothing squishy, just the bottom line. You kick a stone and feel it; I kick it, and I agree it is really there.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 11:21 PM

Therefore objective validity and necessary universality (for everybody) are equivalent terms, and though we do not know the object in itself, yet when we consider a judgment as universal, and also necessary, we understand it to have objective validity.

                         --Immanuel Kant, Prolegomen To Any Future
                            Metaphysics
, Section 19.

Tragedy, therefore, is imitation of worthy and complete action having magnitude, in speech made pleasing with each form [of pleasing ornamentation]used separately in the parts of tragedy, performed and not produced through narration, achieving through pity and fear a catharsis of such affections.

                        --Sam Aristotle,The Poetics, Section 6.


Mmmmmmmmmm...squishy philosophy. Where's my copy of L'étre et le néant??


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Eiseley
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 10:49 PM

Isn't it nice that they're getting along for a change.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 10:40 PM

eeyewwwwww, MOM!

I just stepped on a large slug------barefooted.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 10:40 PM

Where's Janie this evening? I thought she might have left on her shit-kicking gardening boots and come in to break up this contretemps.

Throw in a little squishy philosophy and look what happens. It's like a stink bomb went off in here.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 10:30 PM

Oh, I pity da fools. I pity da fools. Trumpet, the Divine Instrument. Mentioned in the Bible, in Dante's Inferno, played by The Greatest Musicians. It is a little known fact that Mendelsohn, all of the Bachs, Beethoven, Brahms, Wagner, Davis, Parker, Léonin, Vitry, Mozart (father and son), Aimeric de Belenoi, Aimeric de Peguilhan, Albertet de Sestaro, Hildegard von Bingen, the Geisslerlieder, Roy Henry, John Dunstable, Corvus Corax, Joshua, Armstrong, Beiderbecke, Gillespie, Mangione, Marsalis, Tchaikovsky, Oliver, Young, Vu, Jessup and almost every other composer of note used the trumpet as their primary instrument of inspiration. It can truly be said civilization, true civilization, has been built to the notes of the trumpet (and similar instruments such as the cornet and flugelhorn). Nowhere does it say that the walls of Jericho were toppled by someone playing a piano, the cavalry does not arrive in the nick of time to the tune of a violin, and the Last Trump will be sounded by (what else?) at trumpet. Imagine the confusion if the End of the World was heralded by a clarinet or a guitar or a saxophone! But I cannot pity you too much, if at all, for you did have the good sense to father a trumpeter. If you don't believe me, ask her.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 08:37 PM

Wow, that's good advice, and surprising, too. I never would have taken you for a man whose pity was so over-excitable, but it goes to show, ya never know.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 08:17 PM

You should let them discover your hidden treasures, just as I have done. For instance, were you to set out to impress me, you would come across as a nice guy who just happens to have a graduate degree in technology and who holds or shares a patent or two. Maybe first you'd let me know about your hard-rock mining experience or your career as a seaman. Bit eventually the Awful Truth would come out: you play banjo. This would not lower you one whit in my estimation, but it would excite my pity that such talent wasn't used for God's Own Instrument, the trumpet.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 08:04 PM

Well, my goodness! A modicum of humility in such a vast, wide, deep sea of tacky self-importance is good leavening I suppose. Really, though, don't overdo that part. It might not ring true, somehow.

So maybe you could help me with a conundrum I have been wrestling with!

If you're trying to impress someone, say, and you succeed, should you keep on saying impressive things. to increase the perceived awesomeness with which you have impressed them? Or should there be some kind of limit in such an exercise? I just can't figure this out but I am sure you can do so in the very twinkling of an ego!!

Thanks so much,


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 07:46 PM

Yes, yes, I am. And humble. As I've said before, I'm very proud of my humility.

I also have 21 semester hours in Philosophy and the same in Theater. But it's not necessarily the sign of a superb, nay, nearly supernatural, intelligence. It can also be a sign of screwing around too much as an undergraduate.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 07:10 PM

Oh my!! I am impressed. You must know all about those obscure teachings, huh? Like the ones about brass bells being similar to the sound of those who assert their theological depths, or something. Oh, and the one about the house built on sand...or the eye of a needle...and all that stuff about humility in one or another guise...I bet you could recite it all, Chapter and Verse, even the comparable ones from Lao Tsu and Gautama and those other far out cats. You are certainly The Man, brain-wise. Awesome, eh?



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 06:57 PM

Watch it, dude. I've also got 21 semester hours of Theology, and I ain't afraid to use it!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 05:25 PM

Why, no, you didn't!! I expect you were being modest and didn't want to assert yourself, throw your weight around, toot your own horn, transmit gasconades, boast, engage in profligate jactitation, bluster, vaunt, swash or ostentate, knowing well that such behaviors are below all standards of decent or honorable behavior. That's probably why you never mentioned it, don't you think?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 04:07 PM

Did I mention my graduate level courses in linguistics?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 04:01 PM

de Morgan's Duality Law


For every proposition involving logical addition and multiplication ("or" and "and"), there is a corresponding proposition in which the words "addition" and "multiplication" are interchanged.


Weisstein, Eric W. "de Morgan's Duality Law." From MathWorld--A Wolfram Web Resource. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/deMorgansDualityLaw.html

Types of valency
There are several types of valency:

an avalent verb takes no arguments, e.g. It rains. (Though it is technically the subject of the verb in English, it is only a dummy subject, that is a syntactic placeholder with no true meaning. No other subject can replace it.)
an monovalent verb takes one argument, e.g. He sleeps.
a divalent verb takes two, e.g. He kicks the ball.
a trivalent verb takes three, e.g. He gives her a flower.
a tetravalent verb takes four. They are uncommon, perhaps non-existent in English. Maybe for example: He sold you a shirt for 9 bucks.
The verb requires all of these arguments in a well-formed sentence, although they can sometimes undergo valency reduction or expansion.

For instance, to eat is naturally divalent, as in he eats an apple, but may be reduced to monovalency in he eats. This is called valency reduction.

Verbs that are usually monovalent, like to sleep, cannot take a direct object. However, there are cases where the valency of such verbs can be expanded, for instance in He sleeps the sleep of death. This is called valency expansion.

Verb valence can also be described in terms of syntactic versus semantic criteria. The syntactic valency of a verb refers to the number of dependent arguments that the verb can have, while semantic valence describes the thematic relations associated with a verb.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 03:14 PM

As Gibson or Camp, one or the other, said, "It takes a heap o' heapin' to make a heap of heap."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 03:00 PM

He who letteth Mom fall low
Ne'er to Heaven shall he go.
He who brings her up again
Shall be Jesus' constant friend.
He who never Mom denied,
In the clouds he shall abide.
But woe to him who posteth not,
For he shall sleep on Satan's cot.

Paiseley Parseley Anthyme
God Loves Our Mom, You See
from Collected Verses of Juvenile Sucrose
Barf, Guhagg and Pewque, pubs.
Jejeune Precious Press, Tunbridge Wells, 1894


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 12:14 PM

"Another approach is to use hysteresis?that is, knowledge of what the collection of sand started as. Equivalent amounts of sand may be called heaps or not based on how they got there. If a large heap (indisputably described as a heap) is slowly diminished, it preserves its "heap status" to a point, even as the actual amount of sand is reduced to a smaller number of grains. The idea is that, for example, let's say 500 grains is a pile and 1,000 grains is a heap. There will be an overlap for these states. So if you are reducing it from a heap to a pile, it is a heap going down until, let's say, 750. At that point you would stop calling it a heap and start calling it a pile. But if you replace one grain, it would not instantly turn back into a heap. When going up it would remain a pile until, say, 900 grains. The numbers picked are arbitrary, the point is that the same amount can be either a heap or a pile depending on what it was before the change. A common use of hysteresis would be the thermostat for air conditioning, the AC is set at 77 °F and it then cools down to just below 77 °F, but does not turn on again instantly at 77.001 °F, it waits until almost 78 °F degrees, to prevent instant change of state over and over again.[4]" (Wikipedia, discussion of the sores paradox.)

This really casts some light on the issue. I think it is hysteresis that generates Rapaire's heapof BS in the first place, and this in turn opens the door to resolving the paradox by administering Xanax to optimize the hysteresis levels.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 12:01 PM

The sorites paradox (σωρός sōros being Greek for "heap" and σωρείτης sōreitēs a derived adjective meaning "heaped up") is a paradox that arises from vague predicates. The paradox of the heap is an example of this paradox which arises when one considers a heap of sand, from which grains are individually removed. Is it still a heap when only one grain remains? If not, when did it change from a heap to a non-heap?

Thus, when Rapaire produces a heaping heap of BS, if you remove one false datum from it, is it still a heap of BS? Is this sort of heaping helping? Does he need help heaping? Who does it serve, and is it a heaping serving? Most important, how many ridiculous assertions would one have to delete before the result was merely, say, a fiction rather than a heap of BS? Vague predicates, indeed.

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 11:54 AM

Sure. Mining the Cosmos for aether ore (as it was once spelled) is one of the great out-of-body sports of the Victorian England Blavatsky crowd. This little known fact is one of the reasons why the development of hard-nosed science was such a sad error.

By the time Michelson and Morely set up their rig to measure the aether's inertial drag on the speed of light, scientists were embarassed to have anything to do with spiritualists, as just too undisciplined and out there to be seen in public with any self-respecting scientist.

As a result the experiments went ahead without the benefit of any aether ore experts or resources, and came up absolutely emptyhanded, thus deflectiong physical science into a trail of ruinous errors that have persisted to this day.

Just goes to show ya, doesn't it??


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 11:14 AM

More one of them "if/then" or "who/me" type of statement I learned about when I got an "A" in Logic -- classical Logic, too! Just try me! I'll whip out a tautology or sorite so fast your head'll swim! I QED all over the place and let the distributed middles fall where they may! The best logicians live on Proposition Creek and I live at the source! When I was just a baby I choked a Fallacy to death with one hand while whomping out a truth table with the other! I kin out-think a De Morgan duality, and stomp any valency into the mud while explaining intuitionism, modality and dialectics to a group of kindergarten kids! I'm a syllogistic wolf and it's my day to howl!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 10:36 AM

Maybe he's trying to find the source of "ether ore," sometimes misspelled as "either/or." This is one of those extremely misunderstood rare elements. As I'm sure all MOABites know.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 10:20 AM

I think the operative word is "sniffing".


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Jun 10 - 12:44 AM

Are you playing in the ether again, Rapaire?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 11:17 PM

You misunderstand. If you take elixir that was made by someone other than you or your wife (wyfe) it is THEN that you will slide all around the place. You could even cause your great-great-great grandmother to find herself in a "delicate way" and end up your own great-great uncle! It's a slippery thing if not done (and downed!) correctly.

By the way, it helps if the "wolfe" is rabid.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 11:03 PM

My, that's an impressive range of capabilities for an analog concoction, indeed. Downright Magickal!!

You try it, then, and let me know how it turns out. Despite the weathering in certain key areas, I have lived within this Mortale Temple for decades while maintaining a balanced personal outlook of around twenty-five years of age. Sometimes I backslide to eighteen, and sometimes the sorry pressure of events forces me to slide up to forty for a bit, but I usually manage to re-center myself.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 10:32 PM

Well, it could go the other way as well. How'd you like to be the Two Hundred Year Old Alcoholic or worse?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 10:27 PM

Oh, well, I wouldn't want to infringe on your dramatization. Guess I'll pass. As for being an infant, I have done it so many times, I am pretty sure I have no qualms, but I am applying for an Off-the-Wheel Sabbatical grant this time. It would be nice to step back and just study the matter out instead of jut whipping around the loop one more ogddamned time, if you see what I mean.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 06:37 PM

That is Forbidden. You must do the work your self. You might also ask you wife, er, wyfe, if she would do it for you. But for me to do it would reverse the effects and I doubt that you want to be a mewling, puking, diaper-dirtying infant again.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 06:33 PM

Dang, Sir Booque (Ret.), I'da thunk you sneaked back into the stacks and mixed up the pages of Ye Joye of Cooquinge with some old parchment from Chang Tao-Ling, the first Taoist pope, in the reign of the Emperor Kuang Wu Ti of the Hari dynasty and a chapter from theTabula Smaragdina of Hermes' era.

But if its all the same, you make it up and ship it to me, okay? I promise to swallow it whole cloth...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 06:11 PM

Sparing you Ye Eldrich Script in which Ye Receipt is written, here it is:

In a mortar place ye the dryied testyclees taken by ye Alchymyst from a living Wolfe with a sylver knyf during the lyght of ye Fulle Moone on St. John's Eve at Mydnyghte. Unto this add the freshly chapped heart of a Black Coque taken from ye coque while yt be crowing sunryse. With ye pestel grynd them together and work ynto ye mess oil of skynk whych hath for siks weeks been formented with thee dried powder of Devyl's Club. Add to this the yolks of three eggs (separated) and one cup of flour. Myx ye all of this wel. In ye separate bowl of coppyr beat ye eggs whytes untyl they do form soft peaks, and then folde into them the mixture aforesayd. Place all in ye alembric and heat over ye slow, slow fyre. When all is complete, take the lyquor thus ackwired and pour yt over powder of pure gold sufficyent to make a soft dough. Roll ynto pylls and bake for 30 minute in a 350 degree oven or until a toothpyck stuck into one comes away clean. Let them rest until the Comet of Halley's returns and then they will be full of vertue and good.

Now you know. Use the power carefully.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 04:25 PM

Well, my family long, long ago discovered the Elixir of Life. Since this can be both a blessing and a curse (in our case and in the case of the rest of humanity a Blessing because you are blessed indeed with our presence) and so we haven't shared the secret until now.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 02:13 PM

This painting is based on the Rudyard Kipling The Jungle Book. It was exhibited at the Royal Academy in 1903.

Your nephew exhibited in 1903? I really must apologize for my rudeness--I had not realized how very well preserved you are!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 12:56 PM

John is my nephew, Amos.

Friedrich Dollmann (February 2, 1882 - June 28[1][2], 1944) was a German general during World War II, most notably serving during the early phases of the D-Day Invasion.

Born in 1882, Dollmann remained in the Reichswehr following service in World War I eventually commanding Mobilization District Wehrkreis IV by 1936. Promoted to generaloberst shortly after the start of World War II, Dollmann was given command of the German Seventh Army which he led during the six-week campaign against France. Assigned to occupation duty, Dollmann remained in France overseeing the defense of Brittany and Normandy in 1944. Expecting the Allied invasion in early June, Dollmann lowered the alert conditions after worsening weather conditions on June 4. Attending a map exercise during June 5-6, his command in Normandy took much of the early casualties during the initial Allied assault. Dollmann would continue to resist the Allied attack until his death on June 28, 1944, after learning he was going to be court martialed because of the fall of Cherbourg. Sources are not conclusive about the way Dollman died, some sources speak of a heart attack, others claim that he committed suicide by taking poison.


My dear old saintly grandmother claimed him as one of our family, and said that his death was due to his shame. Others think he was in the pay of the Allies and that was the real reason he lowered the alert level. Or it could simply have been his time to go. In any case, it was convenient for the Allies.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 11:17 AM

Rapaire is elevated to Sainthood by his people.

After the celebration, they all danced and swung through the treetops, yelling We are great! We are free! We are wonderful! We are the most wonderful people in all the jungle! We all say so, and so it must be true!!!

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 11:07 AM

I have vowed to ignore the skenningly ill-scansioned maunderings of Rapaire's doggerel as the ravings of a febrile and facinorous, ventripotent banderlog.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 10:43 AM

You're absolutely right!

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 09:47 AM

Well done, Eiseley! And what a wonderful little swirl of brotherly sentiment you all created.

I'm sure I'm not the first to wonder what each of you might manage to do in real life if you weren't generating these ditties for MOAB. Just thinking.

Janie, I missed that interview. I'll have to look for it. And Eiseley, I missed that one also. I have my radio bookmark now, I'll give it a workout if there are more interviews like that.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 12:22 AM


    Tweedledum and Tweedledee
       Agreed to have a battle!
    For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
       Had spoiled his nice new rattle.

    Just then flew down a monstrous crow,
       As black as a tar-barrel!
    Which frightened both the heroes so,
       They quite forgot their quarrel.


Lewis Heironymus Carroll
27 January 1832 ? 14 January 1898


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