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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 04:45 PM

A condition I will not wish even on my friend Hawk.



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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 03:59 PM

Ranks right up there with blitzenscheiss.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 02:20 PM

Well, it is certainly louder than chucklehead, as well. Assuming the "thunder" legacy is correct.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 01:55 PM

"Dunderhead" is a great word. It's even better than "chucklehead". I really think it must derive from rum drinking.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 01:52 PM

Definitions of dunderhead on the Web:

dunce: these words are used to express a low opinion of someone's intelligence

wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

The Dictionary of Americanisms offers: "DUNDERHEAD. Blockhead; dolt. The same as the English provincialisms dunder-knoll and dummer-head."

The American Heritage concurs in the possibility of the term deriving from doner, thunder, in Middle Dutch.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 01:50 PM

Odd. Babel Fish just translated "dunder" (from German to English) as "more dunder."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 01:42 PM

The US, unfortunately, was visited by the More Reagan.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 01:33 PM

Why can't there be Neo-norse mythology? All the hairy little gods know I've seen enough warped and twisted Irish/celtoid, egyptian, greek and roman stuff out there.

I particularly liked reading the story of Morrigan and Osiris. It went into a lot of detail about the threefold aspect of Morrigan/Diana/Freya.

'struth!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 01:30 PM

Rap: I am assuming nothing, good sir. ;-) I looked it up. You are the one who is assuming.

It means thunder in German too, as far as I know.

I think that the English term dunderhead might relate to thunder inside the skull...or it might more likely relate to drunkenness...since dunder is a byproduct of making rum. Yes, very likely it was drunken sailors staggering about and acting like fools who provided the inspiration for the first use of the term "dunderhead".

You really should read the link about the ship. It was quite impressive.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 01:25 PM

dunder has implied stupid/clumsy/bumbling as long as I've been speaking - maybe it's a regional thing?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 01:24 PM

, it's a derivative meaning, based on the notion that some folks, naming no names, are so taken with the noises generated within their skulls that they lose perspective; they became known as "dunderheads", and by extension over time the word came to mean "fumbling or stupid". That's my story, and I am sticking to it.

As for my contributions to the history of Norse mythology, you are much too kind.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 01:19 PM

Why are you assuming that the word is Swedish OR English, instead of platt or hoch deutsch?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 01:10 PM

Sufferin' JAYSUS, Amos! You have set Norse mythology back ten thousand years with your bizarre ramblings.... ;-)

Now, listen carefully....this is the English definition of the word "dunder":

Dun´der
n. 1. The lees or dregs of cane juice, used in the distillation of rum.
The use of dunder in the making of rum answers the purpose of yeast in the fermentation of flour.
- B. Edwards.

Further to that, the word "dunder" in the Swedish language means "thunder", as in "dunderberg" (thunder mountain).

Here is a link to an article about the American ironclad "Dunderberg", launched in 1865. They did not name it so to indicate that it was stupid, Amos, they named it so to indicate that it was impressively large and that its guns thundered.

USS Dunderberg, ironclad, 1865


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 12:15 PM

Dunner, of course, means "thin", while "Dunder" means dull or clumsy. It is a very different thing to say "Der LeedleHawk dunder ist" than to say "Der Leddlehawk dunner ist", as I am sure you will appreciate.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 11:48 AM

That "Dunnerhund" was actually a corruption of the word "Dunderhund" (see Philli and Mares, 1972, et al.) and is related to the term "dunderhead".


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 11:27 AM

Some archeologists believe that the stone paintings of Kokipelli which are often associated with what many believe to be lighning bolts are actually being misread. The "lightning" these forward thinkers believe, is actually a representation of stairsteps - and "kokipelli" (usually portrayed with a huge erection) is a corruption of "caught on belly" - obviosuly a euphimism.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 11:01 AM

The notion of a dachshund's erection rippling through Mudcat comletely strains my brain beyond its lilmits. Sorry.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 10:40 AM

I believe there is a germane body of mythological referent in the Norse tradition, which raises interesting issues of common ancestorhood. The Scandinavian legends speak of Langer Dünnerhund who is variously presented as a half-man half-god, or as a full-god who occasionally shows up in man's form, typically surprising poor families by sitting down at their dinner tables unexpectedly.

One of the stories about this mythic figure involves his falling in love with a mortal maiden of great beauty, as beautiful as any sunrise, and coming down the golden stairs from Asgard to capture her from her poor family and abscond with her to a big party in Valhalla. Her beauty was so overpowering, however, that Langer Dünnerhund began to experience enormous priapism while seeking to make good his escape up the golden staircase back to Asgard. This affectation so encumbered his progress that the damsel was able to wrest herself free from his grip and escape back to her parent's lowly hut on the farm (a decision she regretted for the rest of her life).

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 10:03 AM

I think Kendall or one of his Maine crowd brought up that particular dog occurance on another thread. It has rippled through Mudcat ever since. But it certainly bears mentioning in MOAB land. Everything bares mentioning here, so to speak.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 09:46 AM

Palaquin didn't make it as a gunfighter - so he hired himself out as a beast of burden.

Hmmmmm, Wasn't Longdoggi the Mayan god of the ball game pitz - derived from the Olmec precursor and very similar to the Aztec ullamaliztli or Nahuatl Ulama?

Sacrifices to Longdoggi I believe were typically sausages made of various unidentifiable meat products and lots of beer. A strange ritual food known as kraakirdjachkz was also consumed in prodigious quantities in honour of Longdoggi


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 09:17 AM

Wasn't Palaquin the guy on "Have Gun, Will Travel"?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 01:40 AM

Well, I am sorry. It was Stilly who brought up the erection; I should have realized it wasn't you, yourself. I assumed she was referring to some private exchange, and thus knew her subject better than I....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 01:06 AM

Oh, yes, he has one other great passion...

...total and absolute hegemony over all that he surveys, and most especially over anything that he has peed upon.

With ambitions like that, who needs erections? ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 12:52 AM

No, the poor fellow doesn't get erections at all, Amos. He was gelded, you see, some time prior to being in this family.

His main passion in life is food. It's a simple passion, but one that never fails to give him motivation.

My main passion these days seems to be talking on this forum, and doing various stuff relating to model aircraft...neither of which causes me any arousal of the specific type you were referring to...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 12:36 AM

And...ummm...this gives your dog an erection? Did you ever hear the homily about dogs and their owners growing more and more alike over the years? I think you should file for divorce fast, man, before this gets serous.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 12:21 AM

They don't like being gelded that much for some reason...

Look, a god doesn't HAVE to walk up the stairs! Specially not on one of those steep Mayan or Aztec pyramids. Perish the thought. A dog that is a god gets CARRIED up the stairs on a palanquin by his adoring devotees. He rests serenely at the top, indicating by the twitch of an ear or an eyebrow who shall be sacrificed next. He yawns prodigiously, stretches, and watches approvingly as the unworthy die hideously and their heads and headless torsos are thrown down the stairs to the cheering mob below...

At least that's the way my dog imagines it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 11:58 PM

Seems to me from a god point of view the erection is the primary obstruction. Maybe you should have him shaved, gelded and THEN gilded...but omit step two for your own head, as it might have dire consequences.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 11:24 PM

But who STILL can't walk upstairs with an erection. A drawback to being a god, one might think.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 10:02 PM

The Great God Longdoggi, master of all he surveys and then some.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 05:02 PM

That's true...a shaven and gilded dachshund would look....positively regal! like an Aztec or Mayan god! Wow.

What a great idea.

I have to really think about this...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 03:43 PM

Not if he was gilded. You could tell everyone he was a short-haired golden retriever who was height-challenged.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 02:44 PM

It would make a horrible mess of your razor, also.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 02:32 PM

Get lost. ;-) Shave your own head and gild it.

A shaven dachshund would look AWFUL!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 12:47 PM

Yeah. You could have it gilded. And if you shaved your dachshund you could him gilded as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 10:04 AM

Little Hawk, you would look awesome with a completely shaved head. Just AWESOME, man.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 09:44 AM

I've been growing my hair longer also, but it's on my neck and driving me nuts, so I'm going back to a look a couple of inches shorter. My hairdresser died six weeks ago and we were working on a new style. Now that his vision is gone (and I found someone who used to work with him, but she's less experienced) I'll go back to an earlier look I liked.

No dachshunds were harmed in my haircut, however.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 09:36 AM

BTW, this is Mom's 385th page. That's gotta be worth something.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 08:53 AM

Try rearraning you hair and giving your dachshund a haircut. You may have someone else rearrange your hair, but you have to shave your dachshund yourself.

"Shave your dachshund" sounds both vaguely threatening and smacking of strange sexual proclivities.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 01:02 AM

I am thinking of getting a haircut. I'm getting a bit tired of the long hair for some reason.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 12:46 AM

Me!! What about Still? She'd rearrange your dachshund and make you get a haircut!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 12:21 AM

You're almost as hard to please as some of the women I've gone out with, Amos... ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 12:16 AM

Amos, you messed up Mom's front page with all of that unwrapped text a few messages back! What were you thinking?


    Many chemotherapy drugs work by interfering with the cell-division cycle. The drugs reach healthy cells and cancer cells alike, but they do most of their damage to the cancer cells. Unfortunately, some types of healthy cells divide as rapidly as cancer cells and are badly damaged as well. Such cells are found in bone marrow, the lining of the digestive tract, and hair follicles, so chemotherapy patients often lose their hair and are susceptible to infection. The damage to healthy cells limits the drug dose that a patient can tolerate and therefore limits the treatment's effectiveness.

    Yoram Palti, of the Technion?Israel Institute of Technology in Haifa, and his colleagues have demonstrated another way to disrupt cell division: alternating electric fields with intensities of just 1?2 V/cm. The fields they use, with frequencies in the hundreds of kilohertz, were previously thought to do nothing significant to living cells other than heating them. But Palti and colleagues have conducted a small clinical trial showing that the fields have an effect in slowing the growth of tumors.1

    In studies of tumor cells in vitro, Palti and colleagues observed two distinct effects, both of which depend on the direction of cell division with respect to the applied field.2 First, they found that cells in the electric field take longer than usual to divide, as shown in figure 1a. Second, they found that dividing cells sometimes disintegrate just before the division process is complete, as shown in figure 1, panels b and c. They offer an explanation for each effect.

    The researchers suggest that cell division is slowed because the electric field hinders the formation and function of the mitotic spindle, the structure that guides the newly replicated chromosomes as they separate into the two daughter cells. The mitotic spindle is made up of microtubules, formed by the polymerization of dimers of the protein tubulin. (Microtubules and other cellular structures are illustrated in PHYSICS TODAY, September 2006, page 80.)

    The tubulin dimers and polymers have large dipole moments, so they are affected by the electric field. But most other biochemical processes also involve polar molecules and structures, and small oscillating electric forces don't appear to have much of an effect on them. The difference, says Palti, is that when the tubulin dimers assemble into the mitotic spindle, they all line up in the same direction. If that direction happens to be orthogonal to the direction of the electric field, the microtubules are less likely to function normally.



That looks better, but it's too late for the page now. These 50 will always be out of whack once we move onto the next 50. Be more careful next time!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:45 PM

Oh, M. Hack.!!! Indeed ??? Surely, a man of your, um, prowess and vast experience can come up with something better than, "Indeed"!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:44 PM

We used to mix e-rud-ite with lard and rub it into the youngun's skin to get rid of the scabes. Worked good with head lice too.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:18 PM

Indeed.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 09:08 PM

I am honored to play the Apollonian to my esteemed Dionysian colleague from I-da-ho.

Life is whole.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 08:04 PM

That's generous of you... ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 07:50 PM

I am quite capable of erudite expression. I have both an education and a vocabulary and I am unafraid to use either. Indeed, I believe that I shall begin a whole new School which I shall call "Erudite Expressionism." This can be followed by "Post-Erudite Expressionism" and even "Post-Post-Erudite Expressionism." There is, in fact, no end in sight for Erudite Expressionism in its many and varied facets.

I will leave "Post-Post-Erudite Expressionistic Deconstructionism" to Amos.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 05:50 PM

LOL!!!!!!! Aw, jeez.....

You know, Rap, you and Amos are like the two bookends between which the infinite field of all reality is nervously poised....each of you positioned at the farthest opposite extremity and somehow holding the whole thing tenuously in place.

You and Amos are the Alpha and the Omega. The Yang and the Yin of all Creation. He baffles with exquisitely erudite blather, you counter with roaring, foaming, chest-beating primitivism.

Cosmic, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 05:40 PM

Nail-Teeth Ned picked a fight with me up at the Legion Hovel 'tother night, LH. Neddy was thought to be the meanest, dirtiest-fighting, guy in these parts. Used to bite ears off his opponents, chew them up, and spit them back into the guy's face. He collected noses that he'd pulled off. His body odor was such that he lived at the dump and kept it free of rats and flies; his hair was so greasy bedbugs used it for a ski jump. Every now and then he'd eat a boulder "ta keep ma breth fresh" as he so quaintly put it.

Anyway, he started in about lace doilies, and then he tried to "muckle into" me.

I laid him out with one punch and shoved his feet so far down his throat that he disappeared completely.

Today an awful lot of overdue books were returned....


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