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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Rapparee 29 Aug 11 - 11:32 AM
Amos 29 Aug 11 - 09:35 AM
Amos 29 Aug 11 - 09:20 AM
Acme 29 Aug 11 - 12:04 AM
Rapparee 28 Aug 11 - 10:49 PM
Eiseley 28 Aug 11 - 07:59 PM
gnu 28 Aug 11 - 04:23 PM
Acme 28 Aug 11 - 03:56 PM
Amos 28 Aug 11 - 02:14 PM
gnu 28 Aug 11 - 01:29 PM
Amos 28 Aug 11 - 12:44 PM
Rapparee 28 Aug 11 - 11:56 AM
Acme 28 Aug 11 - 11:31 AM
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gnu 26 Aug 11 - 05:31 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 11:32 AM

Amos, I give you the citation and everything and you STILL complain! Do you think I made this up? That I am plagiarizing? That my scholarship (or that of Angelo Rappoport) is faulty? I cited my source, YOU go look it up. The onus is on you, not me. I am a scholar, passing on knowledge, because like Chaucer's Clerk, "gladly would he [I] teach, and gladly learn."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 09:35 AM

Marmachler?

Pfft!! I don't believe it!!

I wonder if you can find any other instance of the word in the world.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 09:20 AM

Praxeology is the conceptual theory of the science of human action, that is non-instinctive action. It identifies one axiom out of which all subsequent concepts are derived: Human action chooses certain ends and, after consciously comparing the different means available, chooses out of those available means in order to attain these ends.

Praxeology examines the objectives aimed at and the means employed in order to attain these objectives. It explains the causes and effects of human action. It does not explain the thought process that leads to the decision of pursuing a certain aim (psychology). Nor does it question the morality of the actor's ends (ethics). It merely examines whether the means employed are fit to attain the end sought.

Every human action is an act of exchange. At any given point in time, the actor trades one state of affairs for a different one. This is the driving force of all human action.

The axiom that human action aims at objectives and is performed in order to attain these is irrefutable. If one were to set out to refute its correctness he himself would be aiming at an objective and choose actions that he sees fit to attain this objective.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 12:04 AM

Marmachler sounds like the equivalent of "sea mackerel" to me. Mackerel of the sea, tuna of the sea, all the same, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 10:49 PM

Ha! I knew it!

The holes in the Buick are, according to the company itself, called "Cruise-A-Line Ventiports."

The mer-offspring are called marmachler (see Rappoport, "Superstitions of Sailors", 1926).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 07:59 PM

Coincidentally, I just read about Dr. Stephen Maturin's encounter with a mermaid. Actually, the crew raced down to the orlop to urge him to come on deck and see the mermaid. This is similar to what he described as their "mermaid"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 04:23 PM

"...she would kneel down with her mistress before the crucifix..."

I would guess the crucial fix was laudanum and hash.

Whaddid she do, flop over to the crucifix?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 03:56 PM

I can tell you what they call the child of one mermaid: The Keeper of the Eddystone Light (assuming the son follows in his father's footsteps). Love that song! :)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 02:14 PM

In 1608, English navigator, Henry Hudson described something two of his crewmen saw in his journal. He wrote this of their account. "From the naval upward, her back and breasts were like a woman's . . . her body as big as one of us; her skin very white and long hair hanging down behind, of the color black; in her going down they saw her tail, which was the tail of a porpoise, and speckled like a mackerel."

In 1403 in Edam, Holland a few women claimed to have rescued a mermaid and allowed her to live amongst them. In 1635, minister John Swain wrote this of the event. "She suffered herself to be clothed and fed . . . she learned to spin and perform other petty offices of women . . . she would kneel down with her mistress before the crucifix, she never spake, but lived dumb and continued alive (as some say) fifteen years.

On January 4, 1493, Christopher Columbus wrote this in his journal about mermaids. " They were not as beautiful as they are painted, although to some extent they have a human appearance in the face . . . " Columbus claimed to have seen mermaids off of the coast of Haiti and off of the coast of Guinea, Africa.

Alexander Carmichael reported in 1900 that he had met people who had seen and touched a mermaid. He wrote this of their account. "The upper part of the creature was about the size of a well-fed child of three or four . . . with an abnormally developed breast. The hair was long, dark and glossy, while the skin was soft and tender. The lower part of the body was like a salmon, but without scales."




Although the ancient Tritons were said to be the offspring of mermaids, I don't think the general case has been labeled "a Triton". It could be. Since Rapparree is not sharing, he wickedly keeps us in a condition of vulnerable mystery with his puzzle. What a cruel man he is!! For fie.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 01:29 PM

Sounds smashing A. Ya done good.

The offspring? Fishbreath.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 12:44 PM

Thanks so much for sharing, Rapparee. ANd you are right, Idon't know what the spawn of mermen and mermaids are called. THe holes in a Buick are called "holes", or ports.

Mom, ya woulda been proud of me for the surprise party we threw for BBW. She was expecting a quiet dinner with friends out in Valley Center, and who showed up but her Mom from Arizona. Then, her sister from Denver walked in, completely unexpected. Then guests start rolling in and the wine and beer are flowing and her best childhood friend shows up from Pennsylvania. The look on BBW's face was worth the whole deal, I tell ya. The party ran until late and we got some good blues laid down with buddies. It was a fine, fine evening.

SHe got some good presents, too.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 11:56 AM

Betcha nobody but me, not even Amos, knows correct term for the offspring of mermaids and mermen...OR what the holes in the hood of a Buick are called (besides rust).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 11:31 AM

106 today, 107 tomorrow. It is relentless.

MOM, you're slouching. Let me give you a boost back up to the top.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 07:50 PM

Oh SRS... that REALLY sucks!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 06:09 PM

MOM! Amos is dropping acid again! Make him gimme some!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 03:04 PM

ANd we live a life of ease
Every one of us has all we need
Sea of green and sky of blue
In our Yellow Submarine.
We all live in a Yellow Submarine.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 02:53 PM

There's a 99% chance that Rapparree is BSing, too...plus or minus about .001%.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 01:19 PM

Stilly, there's a 50% chance of heavy snows there tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 09:52 AM

Well, no "maybe" about it, it's still effing hot here. This weekend is up to 106o each day. It's the end of August, but it has been doing this so long, surely change is coming? MOM, send a nasty letter to the weather folks, see if they'll change the weather. Talk to gnu about what to say. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Aug 11 - 12:24 AM

SOmeone needs to review An Introduction to Statistics and Probability Theory 101...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 26 Aug 11 - 05:31 PM

Yeah, what Rap said... in spades... every time a cloud comes over. It's truly disheartening.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Aug 11 - 05:05 PM

Moncton, NB, August 26: Weather Canada has stated that an earthquake, measuring 10 or better on the Richter Scale, might occur "at any time". At the same time a supervolcano may erupt, the fissures resulting from both ripping New Brunswick from the rest of Canada and propelling it in the general direction of the Canary Islands. There is a 50% chance of these happening in the next week. The Coast Guards of the both the US and Canada are on alert.

Every word is true, even the 50% part. After all, it will happen or it won't....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 26 Aug 11 - 03:20 PM

Thanks SRS. It's constantly on the TV... "we have a line of possible thundestorms moving through" at the top of the news hour. I get a call. I check the radar. They don't exist. They don't happen. And it's obvious they never were going to happen. But, when the ratings spike in real time, the ad person gets more money for the open spots they have saved. It's sickening... in real time.

Last summer, I sent an email to a TV station regarding that very instance. I addressed it to the weather terrorist on screen in the subject. I got an email back saying not all emails could be delivered to specific personnel because of blah, blah, blah, bullshit. But, it didn't happen again for nearly a month.

Greedy bastards!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 26 Aug 11 - 03:05 PM

I have a couple of sets of friends who had ongoing arguments running on the Letter to the Editor pages in my hometown paper. It's quite a role to take on - a curmudgeon in public like that. More power to you!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 26 Aug 11 - 02:42 PM

I wrote a god damned letter (Canuck joke) to the editor of our local. I just got a call asking me if I really want them to print it(it more or less calls the newsapaper intentionally inaccurate by implying things about hurricane Irene that they could have easily known to be false so that they can sell more papers... it says they are greedy and I am disgusted and they should be ashamed of themselves for scaring the elderly... blah, blah, blah).

I said, "Roll the presses." I shall stay at cane's length from Mum if and when they print it.

If ya care... here it is...

I was extremely upset upon reading the following in your front page 2011.08.25 article re hurricane Irene. "Forecasters' predictions are changing daily, however, as hurricanes are notoriously fickle. On one thing they agree, and that is the possibility that Irene could grow into a Category 4 hurricane, meaning winds around 217 km/h (135 mph), and rain of an intensity that is rarely seen in New Brunswick - not to mention storm surges that have become all too common along coastal New Brunswick in recent years."

Several of my elderly friends interpreted this as saying we are to experience 217 kph winds and torrential rain. Before this article was written, the Canadian Hurricane Centre had predicted winds of less than half of those implied by the article and the prediction has been lessened since. Rainfall predictions are yet to come.

I attempted to allay their fears by printing the hurricane track map available on the Environment Canada website and giving it to them along with an explanation. Some are still worried as they trust your newspaper to provide them with accurate information.

Unfortunately, accurate reporting of readily accessible information regarding the weather appears to play second fiddle (on TV and radio as well) to sensationalizing the actual situation in order to sell newspapers (and advertising air time). Some may salute you for your business acumen. I think it's disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Your financial gain in selling a few extra newspapers does not warrant this kind of greedy transgression in scaring people who trust the media to report accurately.

IF your goal is to educate people about emergency preparedness, perhaps you could do it without scaring the elderly? PLEASE??? You might be elderly some day. You may want to be treated with some respect by being told the truth instead of being "sensationalized to".


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Aug 11 - 02:15 PM

I've decided thatI'm moving on to the Professional Jell-O Wrestling Circuit. I think I can wrestle Jell-O to the ground, if there's nothing else in it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 26 Aug 11 - 01:29 PM

And my father has gone on to enjoy a lively reputation as a 3-D photographer and backyard astronomer. Yep, retired librarians can do some fine things. We all know that Rapparee has been wrestling rattlesnakes.

Eiseley, still in Atlanta


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 26 Aug 11 - 12:52 PM

Librarians who retire are most worthy of wonderful retirements! My dad went on to do what he really wanted to do - research and share folk music. Became a self-trained ethnomusicologist. The reference librarian background helped tremendously.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 26 Aug 11 - 11:24 AM

No glass here, but I picked up my coffee mug and sent a nod in the direction of Ol ' Blood and Guts, just for earning the moniker.

Call me when you're back on hallowed ground, Rapp.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 10:49 PM

I urge everyone to raise a glass to Ann. She's a good, good person and deserves a great retirement.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Eiseley
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 10:39 PM

What a day, Mom. I visited some ancient Indian mounds, hiked through a humid forest (and ran into a huge spiderweb that was stretched across the path, ugh) and played in a Magic tournament with my cousins. Tomorrow we'll hike up to the top of Stone Mountain. I thought of you, Amos, because my aunt lives in a community called Tucker.

On a different note, Ann retired today. Good ol' Blood and Guts is no longer at the library. I'll miss her a lot. Wetly to SLC on Saturday p.m., Home on Sunday.

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 10:23 PM

Yup. We jist keep a-pluggin' away, reaching for the stars. Ol' Mom's already self-aware.

Happy, Amos?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Kim C
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 10:15 PM

Lordy, I ain't been around here in ages, and lo and behold, this thread is still going on. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 09:33 PM

It will be easier this year because there will be mo' laddies there, and also molasses.


And where is that PM, Rapp????


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 05:42 PM

I'd be treacled pink to do that, Bill.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 05:16 PM

"You're all going to footle at the Getaway, I know it!"

I think the Methodists probably consider 'footling' almost as bad as *gasp* imbibing....it's no doubt in the fine print. We will have to footle syruptitiously.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 04:17 PM

I KNOW I prefer snow to heavy LA traffic. If I have to drive through that area I try to time it so I'm going through town at about 3am. And am way far away by the time the traffic hits the road.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 02:55 PM

"six hours negotiating very heavy LA traffic"

I don't even shovel snow that long. I think I prefer snow.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 01:58 PM

It is also approximately the thirtieth anniversary of the release of the 8088-chipped IBM "Personal Computer" -- hard to believe it has only been 30 years!!

Rap, PM me with your flight details, or email me.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 01:45 PM

How is Ivan these days? Isn't he an honorary member of the Idaho Brigade?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 12:56 PM

Today, August 25, is the birthday of Ivan IV, a/k/a "the Terrible." Take a psychotic Russian sociopath to lunch.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 12:05 PM

You're all going to footle at the Getaway, I know it!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 11:58 AM

footle\FOOT-l\ , verb;
1.To act or talk in a foolish or silly way.noun:
1.Nonsense; silliness.

Quotes:
Sometimes, on a good day, I would go upstairs with my duster and footle around the parlor, adjusting paintings and straightening cushions, knocking them into shape with such military precision that even my mother would have saluted them.
-- Marion McGilvary, A Lost Wife's Tale: A Novel

I say, Charlie, for any sake do play up tomorrow, and don't footle.
-- Rose Macaulay, Abbots Verney: a novel

Origin:
Footle has an uncertain origin. One candidate is the French se foutre, to care nothing." Another possibility is the Dutch vochtig, "damp or musty."





Make up rhymes, jump in a puddle
Sing to the clouds and let us footle
Loud and wide, at top of lung,
Footle, footle while we're young!
Late in life, your brain's a muddle
And it grows dark, and hard to footle.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 11:47 AM

I will be visiting Gene and Sandrolin Thursday afternoon and evening. When do you land from your wild and wonderful personal altitude, and where, sirrah?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 11:05 AM

I've registered for Getaway and have my plane reservations. Now, if Amos could give me a ride....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 09:45 AM

my hotel is booked for post-getaway week or relaxing and a trip to the MD ren-faire.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 09:28 AM

Sounds like a great walk, Eiseley. Watch out for those venomous snakes. Georgia will have some different sizes and colors than Idaho (but you know that!)

The rest of you, you need to feel pretty flush to tackle plumbing problems. They're invariably expensive.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 09:23 AM

Hi, Mom. I spent six hours negotiating very heavy LA traffic yesterday, but I spent four hours having a great lunch and plan meeting with my brilliant webmeister son who isa wicked smart. That's why I haven't writ.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: JennyO
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 08:31 AM

Rapparee, I watched the tide come in, in my toilet bowl yesterday, and it never went out. A hasty trip to the hardware store and a lot of dislodging of sea monsters and other nasty things eventually made it go out.

This is the toilet further away from the bedroom, so again we may hear the flush of a distant toilet......


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Eiseley
Date: 25 Aug 11 - 07:43 AM

Rapparee's on one end and I'm on the other. Georgia is hot and humid, but pleasant for all that. I didn't find the stairway to heaven or anywhere else, but yesterday I went out in the woods and found an old trail that seemed as if it hadn't been used for many years. There was a wild pear tree (not a peach), and many beautiful orb spiderwebs I tried to avoid. I took my cousin's dogs and they loved the ramble. Today we're off to see some Indian burial mounds.

Eiseley


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