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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Aug 11 - 10:55 AM

Bravo, Rapp. WIsh I knew where you got that from!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Aug 11 - 10:36 AM

Zen Judaism

If there is no self. Then whose arthritis is this?

Be here now. Be someplace else later. Is that so complicated?

Drink tea and nourish life. With the first sip, joy. With the second, satisfaction. With the third, peace. With the fourth, a danish.

Wherever you go, there you are. Your luggage is another story.

Accept misfortune as a blessing. Do not wish for perfect health or a life without problems. What would you talk about?

The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single "oy". And a lot of travel arrangements.

There is no escaping karma . In a previous life, you never called, you never wrote, you never visited. And whose fault was that?

Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have?. Bupkes.

The Tao does not speak. The Tao does not blame. The Tao does not take sides. The Tao has no expectations. The Tao demands nothing of others. The Tao is not Jewish. The Tao is also not your mother.

Breathe in. Breathe out. Breathe in. Breathe out . Forget this and attaining Enlightenment will be the least of your problems.

Let your mind be as a floating cloud. Let your stillness be as the wooded glen. And sit up straight. You'll never meet the Buddha with such rounded shoulders.

Be patient and achieve all things. Be impatient and achieve all things faster.

To Find the Buddha, look within. Deep inside you are ten thousand flowers. Each flower blossoms ten thousand times. Each blossom has
ten thousand petals. You might want to see a specialist.

To practice Zen and the art of Jewish motorcycle maintenance, do the following. Get rid of the motorcycle. What were you thinking?

Be aware of your body. Be aware of your perceptions. Keep in mind that not every physical sensation is a symptom of a terminal illness.

The Torah says, "Love thy neighbor as thyself." The Buddha says there is no "self". So, maybe you are off the hook.

The Buddha taught that one should practice loving kindness to all sentient beings. Still, would it kill you to find a nice sentient being who happens to be Jewish?

Though only your skin, sinews, and bones remain, though your blood and flesh dry up and wither away, yet shall you meditate and not stir
until you have attained full Enlightenment. But, first, a little nosh.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Aug 11 - 12:52 AM

Eisely, I wasn't saying we don't have free will. It's quite clear that we do. What I was saying is that we may be using that free will within what amounts to a dreaming form of existence. I would never for a moment suggest that we do not have free will. One has free will within a dream, and one uses it continuously. The moment a being has consciousness and self-awareness, it also has free will. This has already been demonstrated millions of times in the lives of all of us, entirely to our own satisfaction. I just used my own free will to make this comment.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Aug 11 - 12:35 AM

Sorta' like the Spirit within Consciousness met Time, and Matter resulted from it. Don't worry, kids, they will soon be separating! We'll be Free, again!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Aug 11 - 12:25 AM

During the unCivil Ware battle of Seven Pines a pre-determinism preacher took shelter behind a nice big oak. The soldier already there said to the preacher, "Well, reverend, if you were predetermined to got shot you will be shot and if you are determined to escape without injury that too will happen. So why are you taking cover?"

To which the preacher replied, "God predetermined that this nice tree would be here in my time of need."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 11:15 PM

I'm with Descartes. It doesn't really matter much whether we are living in a dream or in some maze of twisting passages. It feels like free will, and even if it isn't, it seems like it.

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 06:37 PM

I am just happy we split.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 06:30 PM

"Researchers at the Yerkes National Primate Research Center have shown chimpanzees have a significant bias for prosocial behavior. This, the study authors report, is in contrast to previous studies that positioned chimpanzees as reluctant altruists and led to the widely held belief that human altruism evolved in the last six million years only after humans split from apes. The current study findings are available in the online edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences."



From Phys Org.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 05:40 PM

A... I lost a hundred pounds drinkin beer and eatin sausages, lasagna, ice cream, whatever. Yeah, I ate a lot of fruit and veggies too. Now, that don't work if ya can't regulate when ya eat but I am sure it was a lot more fun than bein so effin healthy.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 04:55 PM

Our revels now are ended. These our actors,
As I foretold you, were all spirits, and
Are melted into air, into thin air:
And like the baseless fabric of this vision,
The cloud-capp'd tow'rs, the gorgeous palaces,
The solemn temples, the great globe itself,
Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve,
And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,
Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff
As dreams are made on; and our little life
Is rounded with a sleep.

          --Billy Bob Shakespeare, "The Tempest" Act 4, scene 1, 148?158


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 01:07 PM

AS usual, good Hawk, you are perfectly right. Just 'ware the Wheel! :D


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 12:13 PM

A number of ancient spiritual traditions have asserted that this Earthly world and all we experience in it is akin to a shared dream...in effect, an illusion which seems very real while one is experiencing it...and that this reality is "dreamed" by the many spirit souls who project themselves into it through biological birth inside the "dream". Furthermore...that the real existence from which we come into this one is a world of Spirit where everything exists not apart and separated, but in a state of Unity.

The North American Indians in some cases had such a belief, and it is also expressed in a number of the great Asian traditions.

If it were so, we would have no way of knowing it while we were here...operating inside the illusion or the dream. We would have no way of proving it or disproving it either. But we might through intuition or soul memory suspect it.

It might be exactly what we chose to do when in Spirit. That is, I'm saying that it's quite possible that we deliberately chose to come here, be born to certain parents, and in a certain time and place, in order to play out a role in the collective dreaming...a role that in some way appealed to us or allowed us to confront challenges and opportunities that would help us grow, evolve, and develop further. Maybe we just did it because it looked like fun to play that role! Any of these things might be true.

In any case, once you are here inside this circumstance of Earthly existence, you must deal with the various limitations it places upon you. And that can be demanding, can't it? It can also be joyful. It depends on how you relate to the situations you're in.

Death, as we know it, is a departure from this world, the Matrix, the Game or the Dream. And then what? I suspect there is a great deal after death, and that death is merely the closing of the play, the curtain call, after which one gets going on the next thing one wishes to do. I don't think we ever really die...but we do close the curtain on this Earthly drama.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 11:36 AM

Only a day or two after making my upthread remarks about arrested development in Divine AUthors, I ran across the following interesting article with this paragraph in it:

"Depending who you ask, there's a 20 to 50 percent chance that you're living in a computer simulation. Not like The Matrix, exactly ? the virtual people in that movie had real bodies, albeit suspended in weird, pod-like things and plugged into a supercomputer. Imagine instead a super-advanced version of The Sims, running on a machine with more processing power than all the minds on Earth. Intelligent design? Not necessarily. The Creator in this scenario could be a future fourth-grader working on a science project.

Oxford University philosopher Nick Bostrom argues that we may very well all be Sims. This possibility rests on three developments: (1) the aforementioned megacomputer. (2) The survival and evolution of the human race to a "posthuman" stage. (3) A decision by these posthumans to research their own evolutionary history, or simply amuse themselves, by creating us ? virtual simulacra of their ancestors, with independent consciousnesses."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 11:12 AM

You can say that again.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 10:46 AM

I hate to think how many times Rapparreeeee has posted that tired old recipe for Mom's breakfast. Consuming nothing but the aforementioned protein smoothies I have lost ten pounds. MWahaha.
I am growing yoooouuuuuuunnnnnngerrrrrrr....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 10:46 AM

I hate to think how many times Rapparreeeee has posted that tired old recipe for Mom's breakfast. Consuming nothing but the aforementioned protein smoothies I have lost ten pounds. MWahaha.
I am growing yoooouuuuuuunnnnnngerrrrrrr....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 10:30 AM

MOM, I'm tossing the sugar and white flour for a while. Gotta do something to lose this 40 pounds that aren't coming off when it's so hot I can't get much exercise. So we're all gonna diet. Stop with the s'mores, (I can't eat chocolate anyway) and break out the bacon and sausage and pickled herring. (Not necessarily all in the same meal.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 09:56 AM

Amos hates you Mom. Here, have a REAL breakfast: bacon, sausage, cheddar and jalapeno scrambled eggs, French toast swimming in butter and real maple syrup, a gigantic blueberry muffin with butter, and half a pie for dessert. Oh, here's some real Kona coffee with demarara sugar and heavy cream.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 09:37 AM

Mom, Mom, have they ALL abandoned you? Not I. Here's some nice granola in a bowl with organic goat milk and a side order of real Orange Juice with some tofu for dessert.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 Aug 11 - 12:59 AM

Or avoid them altogether and stick to fruit smoothies with whey protein. Lose weight and gain energy!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 11:00 PM

By the way, try s'mores made with dark chocolate instead of milk chocolate.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 10:04 PM

Told ya. I guess she made bail.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 09:50 PM

Dear MOM and Sibs,
I just rolled in from a whirlwind tour of Yellowstone and Teton National Parks. Yes, we made s'mores, no we did not make them in the uncouth way Rapparee hinted.

I spoke German off and on the whole time and learned many new words. By far the best new word was the German term for marshmallows: Mausespeck. Translated, it means: Mouse Bacon.

That makes s'mores sound even less appetizing!

Now I'm going to go take a shower and then a nap.

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 09:32 PM

Be afraid.

Be very, very afraid.

In fact, do what I do and find a nice comfortable corner to sit and whimper in. I find it very comforting to do that.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 08:41 PM

I returned to read up on what happened since my story writing. There are too many in jokes and now I'm scared again.

Oh Mudcat, how I love thee. On a cold rainy day, I shall take you on and enjoy endless amounts of mirth.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 07:24 PM

Took a while to find Jimmie from those links, but, yeah, cool voice.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 07:05 PM

I've been working in the yard, mowing the grass and such. Eiseley's in jail -- something about the SCA and re-enacting Lady Godiva and I don't know what all, just a few lines in what passes for our local newspaper.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 06:27 PM

MOM, the boy musta gone on a toot up in a mountain meadow with the gang from the Legion Hovel. I heard rumor someone wanted to reenact a Rendezvous campout up there. In which case, they'll roll in when the booze runs out.

That doesn't explain why Eiseley hasn't been here, except that I know she's employed and has young 'uns to tend to. She's probably out slaughtering a steer to feed the boys this winter.

I've been shopping a little this afternoon myself, nothing exciting. Too bad I live so far away from real mountains, an escape to a high pasture would be nice about now! (or, for some of you, escaping to get high in a pasture, back in the old days?)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 09:52 AM

And here.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 07 Aug 11 - 09:51 AM

I've been feeding some Jimmie Dale Gilmore into my mp3 player. I love his voice.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 11:48 PM

gnu, you'll be pleased to know that unlike Bruce, Brandon, Peggy, Anthony Dwain, and Anna, Brenda Lee is still alive. She'll turn 67 on December 11. I'm sorry, so sorry....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 08:12 PM

You are allllways on my mind... GET OFF! Brenda. Lee me alone!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 08:02 PM

You are soooo welcome, Amos! That is what I toil for here, to make you a better person, and I am delighted that my earnest efforts are bearing fruit.

Anything else I can help you with?

By the way, that is pretty close to the way Chongo charmed his way into the graces of some great White Hunters back in the 20s in "the old country". Only a few years later he was landing in New York Harbour, and the rest is history.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 06:31 PM

Nice stuff, Gnuzer. Who's on yer mind?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 05:09 PM

John is a Quebecer and a nice guy.

Yes, I am bored. Why do you ask?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 02:30 PM

Piss poor shot... or not? Maybe he got all the bananas?

Cute idea for a film clip.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 02:23 PM

How CHongo Got His Groove Back and Escaped the Dark Continent


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 01:56 PM

AFter considering Booque Manne's rejoinder I withdraw my testimonial. The allergy seems to have returned.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 01:35 PM

Me an my big mouth... it's over 30C and the sun would fry my bald head in 15 minutes. Still not SRS weather but I just ain't used to it. Great weather fer killin weeds with vinegar and dish soap though.


Whaddya use on yer weeds Rap? Shotgun?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 12:44 PM

That's why I created him.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 11:33 AM

I owe LH a vote of thanks. Because of him I have completely overcome my allergic reaction to jejeune condescension and patronizing metaphysics!! THanks, LH!! You've made me a better person!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 10:59 AM

You guys were masticating the words so brilliantly, expectorating so clearly onto the paving stones of our virtual world that I thought I pissing contest might come next that it might be almost as good as an illustrated talk.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Aug 11 - 08:19 AM

"Why are all the most colorful Almighties subject to arrested development at a fourth grade level, and a fixation on body parts?"

Actually, they aren't. It just seems that way, because the immature ones make more noise. The quieter deities are equally colorful when you get to know them, in fact even moreso, but they aren't pushy about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Aug 11 - 11:26 PM

Why are all the most colorful Almighties subject to arrested development at a fourth grade level, and a fixation on body parts? Maybe they feel guilty about shoddy workmanship, bad design, no QA processes in place, failure to test or sloppy system integration?
A good course in comparative religions can leave you feeling like a day-camp counselor for immature Cub Scouts.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Aug 11 - 11:07 PM

Yes, but there are ladies present so I prefer not to mention how you roasted a wiener and no longer make "s'mores".


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Aug 11 - 10:41 PM

As the Author of Everything, oh, Infinite One, you are surely capable of better mediocre second-hand drivel than that, eh? EH???


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Aug 11 - 10:07 PM

Yeah, you did. Amos was out kayaking...well, there was this electric fence, you see, and he needed to answer nature's call, so rather than sink his kayak he put into a secluded beach...and as I said, there was this electric fence...anyway, he now depends on Depends.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 05 Aug 11 - 10:02 PM

"Next you two will be in a pissing match."

"Next"?

Where have you been for the last X,000 posts? It's been oneupmanship since I arrivedin this thread. Did I miss sommat BEFORE I arrived?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Aug 11 - 09:47 PM

There are some things I do not even reveal to His Holiness. It would undermine his self-confidence.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 05 Aug 11 - 08:33 PM

Next you two will be in a pissing match. I want to see that.


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