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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Little Hawk 22 Jun 12 - 06:29 PM
Rapparee 22 Jun 12 - 06:14 PM
Amos 22 Jun 12 - 01:32 PM
GUEST 22 Jun 12 - 01:29 PM
Amos 22 Jun 12 - 01:27 PM
Amos 22 Jun 12 - 01:10 PM
Rapparee 22 Jun 12 - 09:36 AM
Amos 22 Jun 12 - 09:27 AM
GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River 22 Jun 12 - 01:51 AM
Amos 21 Jun 12 - 11:26 PM
Rapparee 21 Jun 12 - 09:32 PM
gnu 21 Jun 12 - 08:27 PM
Acme 21 Jun 12 - 07:54 PM
Little Hawk 21 Jun 12 - 05:46 PM
Rapparee 21 Jun 12 - 05:31 PM
Little Hawk 21 Jun 12 - 04:48 PM
Amos 21 Jun 12 - 02:21 PM
Little Hawk 21 Jun 12 - 12:01 PM
Little Hawk 21 Jun 12 - 11:56 AM
Amos 21 Jun 12 - 10:07 AM
Rapparee 20 Jun 12 - 11:25 PM
Little Hawk 20 Jun 12 - 10:55 PM
Amos 20 Jun 12 - 10:41 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 06:29 PM

Pish and tush! There isn't one of us here who can, in any final sense, set the record straight. We don't possess sufficient knowledge or wisdom to do so. We can offer our opinions, make interesting comments, tell entertaining stories, and engage in pleasant discourse, but we are not capable of setting the record straight, because we don't know enough to be empowered to. We can try, mind you, and do our best when we try, but that's about as far as it goes.

Rap, thy supposed omnipotence existeth only in thine own mind, a mere strutting and phantasmal assumption which passeth away like a cloudy mist evaporating quickly in the blinding rays of the Eternal Sun.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 06:14 PM

Amos, it has to do with my upbringing. Being someone with a graduate degree and, well, lemme see, about 48 years experience in looking it up, it is psychologically impossible not to "set the record straight." This is not due to any grandstanding on my part, but simply my lone, lorn quest to eliminate ignorance and superstition and bring people into the light of Truth and Knowledge. Yes, it's a lonely and often dangerous job, but someone has to do it and Mom selected me for the task because she knew that I would do it without fear or favor, but with sympathy, empathy and élan.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 01:32 PM

Build me a Temple of Learning, said she,
   Build me a Temple of stone ?
Build for all ages: assuredly,
   Build for a man's Reason a throne;
For Freedom and Truth shall prosper
   Where Knowledge and Science are known!

...From pillar, rotunda, arcade,
   From lecture-room, statue, and fane,
And landscape, and scholarly shade,
   And comrades saluted again,
And professor, and classmate and friend,
   And library, tome upon tome ?
The beams of old memories lend
   New light as they welcome us home:
O, Mother! Fair Mother! refresh us,
   In the scope of thy bounteous dome!


Daniel Bedinger Lucas

See? The ineffable SPirit of Mom has been with us down the ages....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 01:29 PM

Travel near the speed of light? What kinda brakes ya got on that there Chevy?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 01:27 PM

IF not for Mom,
Man I wouldn't have no fun
Life would be so darn humdrum
No where left to beat my drum
With great aplomb,
If not for Mom.

If not for Mom,
I would never have much joy
Be a sober-sided boy
Wouldn't have a favorite toy
To call "the bomb",
If not for Mom.

When the ordinary world
Has grown too tedious and dry
I can browse the world of Mom,
To lift my spirits higgghhh, ohhhhh

If not for Mom
There wouldn't be no Little Hawk
Or Rapparree to carp and squawk
To make you wonder where he's really coming frooom
If not for Mom.
If not for Mom.
If no-o-o-ot for Mo-o-o-o-o-mmmmm.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 01:10 PM

Well, you certainly set me straight and split my hair just right there, Mister R. Now I see that I was deeply and profoundly wrong, thanks to your scrupulous eye for detail. Why the whole idea seems vaguely ridiculous!! Thanks to god I was disabused of my excitement and vision for the future by your quick and cutting eye for precision concerning the past. Whew!! That was a close one!! I am in your debt, sir. Somewhere.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 09:36 AM

Lee DeForest created the "audion" tube in 1906, just 9 years after Thompson's discovery, which led to the development of the triode. The Marconi Company was using a diode in 1904. The existence of the electron was first postulated in 1838 and it may have been earlier. Hardly "decades," Amos.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 09:27 AM

THing about it, SHane-me-buck, is that it will finally give Ossifer Dana a means of terminatedly resolving the problems you cause her by getting her special friend Judge Dalhouse to buy you a one way ticket to Antares.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 01:51 AM

Artixes and the boys have been doin' faster than light speed for a loooong time, man. Near light speed ain't all that speshal.

I wish they would visit agen soon. And clone some beer for me, eh?

- Shane


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 11:26 PM

Well Still, I did post it, but to Facebook. It;s pretty damned exciting in respect to the possible implications. Consider, as an analogy, the first discovery of electrons in 1897 by J.J. Thompson. It took decades to turn that into vacuum tubes and radio receivers. Today, building on scores of new solid-state components, we can make the little buggers do all kinds of things. Suppose we began discovering that there really was a particle behind the generation of mass in space, and suppose (although it is a stretch) that we could learn to manage the intercession with the Higgs field that this implies.

Next thing you know, structure and mass aree coupled selectively. Acceleration of masses becomes child's play. The gigantic forces of the Saturn rockets are relegated to the same status as ox-carts and Egyptian slaves as ways of doing things. The door opens to the nullification of gravity and possibly near light speed travel.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 09:32 PM

Yeah, but that's in Canadian dollars...which is about at parity, last time I checked.

What'd they do...rustle cattle?

I knew Bos'n named Higgs. Hal Higgs. Spent forty years in the Navy. He wasn't hard to discover; you just followed the smell of rum.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 08:27 PM

Top sirloin is $4.99 a pound ON SALE. I don't give a shit about the collisions.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 07:54 PM

I can't believe that Amos didn't post this link already.

One of the biggest debuts in the science world could happen in a matter of weeks: The Higgs boson may finally, really have been discovered.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 05:46 PM

Just thinking here. If my dinglichkeit did fall off from neglect, as Amos suggests, I would then be free to have it bronzed and put on public display in some important place somewhere, like maybe the Parliamentary rotunda in Ottawa...or in a display case at the Bobby Orr Museum.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 05:31 PM

LH doesn't like turkeys. Unless you mean the country of Turkey, which would put him in some record book.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 04:48 PM

"Trivial"? You call my distinction "trivial"? Fie, sir! Mind your manners, I say, or I shall be forced to enact stern retaliatory measures of the most stringent sort possible...or even imaginable!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 02:21 PM

Odd--I found multiple instances of it being spelled my way, but the dictionary supports your trivial distinction, so go ahead and demote my rave review, you petty-minded turkey-fucker. May your dinglichkeit fall off from neglect.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 12:01 PM

Okay, I found it. You spelt it wrong! A shocking error. (I'll have to revoke your Gold Star, and downgrade it to a Silver Star.) It's spelt dinglichkeit. It means "materiality".

I now grok the meaning of your brilliant post, but my life has been improved not a whit by arriving at that understanding. What do you intend to do about it?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 11:56 AM

Huh? And here I was thinking you'd be pleased and flattered by my comments. ;-D

The one word I didn't know in your post was dinglicheit. It's obviously a German word. I shall look it up now and enlighten myself.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 10:07 AM

Gosh, LH, maybe you should try and read what I wrote, looking up the terms you don't know, so you could understand better, ya know whuddImean?

Calling it bafflegab is a confession, not an accusation!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 11:25 PM

What'd he just say? I don't know none of them polysyllabic words.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 10:55 PM

Amos, your post of 20 Jun 12 - 08:40 PM is perhaps the ultimate example I have seen yet of your unparalleled ability to use words not to enable communication, but to make it virtually impossible! You have reached the utter apotheosis of bafflegab and irredeemable bullroar at last, sir. I can see no remedy other than the application of a permanent gag...or the swift and final strike of the guillotine...to deliver humanity from the intollerable burden of having to endure your interminable and incomprehensible verbiage.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 10:41 PM

Your Welsh seems to be almost as bad as your French, good amicus meus. Perhaps you should say what you want to say in English, in order to be understood. Unless of course, your actual intention is to sow confusion and discontent, to satisfy some sort of complex or something,

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 10:20 PM

Amos, amherchi 'm a hynny a llafuriedig at addysga 'm 'n Ffrengig! I have a good notion to turn you over to The Linguistics Division of the Idaho Legion and let them work you over. When they finished telling you about evolutionary sociopsycholingustics and its relation to ambiguity in discourse analysis you'll come begging me to accept your apology.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 08:42 PM

By the way this appears to be only the third time the word Dinglicheit has appeared in the entire history of the Mudcat forum. Strangely enough both prior instances were penned by the Being Known as Amos, First Vowel. Coincidence? I don't think so!!!


A

First Vowel


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 08:40 PM

Rapparee, with his Francaise execrable has demonstrated the vaporous map to perfection. When you say it is all semantics, you are ducking the substance of the subject behind the misty screen of language. But the agreements which solidify the apparency of the dinglicheit are much deeper seated than the agreements that form the misty screen of semantic foggery. The subtlety in this particular discussion lies int he fact that the substance under discussion is mind itself; your assertion that it is all semantics merely obscures the question of the substance behind the labels. In the case of Shane this substance may, marginally, be said to exist; but it is a sorry sort of corroded, misbegotten existence indeed, an apology for mind.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 07:23 PM

Monsieur Shane McBride c'est manifestement inapte à indépendant réflexion , au moins one tout supérieur égaliser que soi. Moi douter que il égal semblable à femmes sauf quand hommes êtes pas disponible, pour example.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 01:20 PM

The "vaporous map"? You're being a bit opaque, Amos.

Regarding mind...I think that any form of consciousness or self-awareness at all indicates some degree of mind, does it not? And Shane is clearly self-aware, just not in any way that has proven particularly useful to himself or anyone else thus far.

Now what is this "vaporous map" that you were referring to?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 12:40 PM

No, there is substance behind the vaporous map. But it takes a mind to find it.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 12:32 AM

Well, it's a matter of semantics, isn't it?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 10:05 PM

He HAS a mind? I thought there was just a "reptilian brain" and not much of that.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 09:27 PM

You're going to drive him right out of his mind, Rap. He has little idea what you're saying, and that only makes it worse.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 08:42 PM

Si moi reprendre s'entretenir Français, vouloir vous sauter? S'il vous plaît?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 02:06 PM

STOP talkin' French at me! I can't flippin' stand that!

- Shane


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 12:12 PM

Even more impressive in those old forts are the central spines, or keels, which form the backbone of themain buildings (where the flags are flown). They were hand-built and installed by specialists, back in the day, known as Garrison Keelers.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 10:15 AM

Yup. And if it's really windy it can take you right off your feet.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 11:07 PM

Those great big flags are called garrison flags. We flew one each at Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberty. When you had to take them down at the end of the day it was a real struggle to catch it and hold it up until you could fold it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 09:05 PM

Oui, il est une fou...une grande fou...une grande, grosse fou. Il est une rectal aussi.

L'utilisation de mélangé genre c'est réfléchir.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 08:24 PM

Shaneless... flit mon tu. T'est fou!

You may not uderstand Acadian Shaques but I am sure... hope... you can read between the lines.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 05:33 PM

Youse American flipheads always retreat when you see the McBrides advancin'! We have flippin' drove you from the field time and again, eh? My fambly has a long flippin' histry of victry wherever we go. That is why North Ontario has remaned safe and not been took over by the flippin' USA or the Russians or the Chinese eether.

There was a little trouble with the French now and then, but we have kept them basicly in check fer the most part. The only flippin' thing they ever forced us to do was to take French in school! An outrage! It is not a real langwage like English, eh? It was made up by some perofessers in Paris back in...like...the 1500's? Anyways, they made it up them selves and then forced other people to speak it by passin' a law that said they HAD to. And now all Canadians have to learn it in school. Like I said, it's a outrage!

My fambly has always spoke English. You can go right back to the Bible OR Darwin for proof on that. English was the first flippin' langwage ever spoke on Earth and it is still the best one to this flippin' day.

- Shane


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 04:49 PM

I was allowed to help take down the flag at Ft. McHenry during the evening Retreat Ceremony. One of the others (it's a BIG flag!) was descended from someone on one of the warships which bombarded the fort back in the day. He thought it funny that he could help haul down the flag while his ancestor had tried all night without success.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 03:42 PM

Clearly you are no ketch or sloop, but a full-blown man of war. Or some other kind of Portuguese jellyfish.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 02:48 PM

Hah! I've been to the Battle of Mississinewa. And Ft. McHenry. And Bladensberg (where they had the races).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 12:59 PM

Sounds good with the Little Pissant, Rap.

Hey, with all of the war and battles you guys hash and rehash, has any of you traced the steps of battles in the War of 1812? Today would be a good day to start. If you traced Lewis and Clark's steps, this should be just up your alley. A bit more moving in circles, though, I imagine.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 12:51 PM

My son called me on Father's Day and said thank you for all t6he wise instruction which he had ignored over the years, as he was now discovering, hard though it was to admit, that Dad was right about most things. I told him I had been working on the wrong assumption, to try and tell him the rightest things I could think of, when what I should have done is give him calculatedly terrible advice, counting on him not to take it. I told him it was OK, though, his brand of intransigent self-determination runs in the family.

It was a good talk!

Last night we went to a party to celebrate two graduations of some dear friends of the younger set; amazing what a bright, high-energy creative and thoughtful generation we have coming up behind. I feel optimistic about the future of humanity when I see these guys operating.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 09:51 AM

Just for those who don't know, the French Croix de Gare is one of the Stations of the Cross in the French version of reality. They also have a Croix de Guerre for people who fight well on the correct side.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 09:10 AM

Then there was the time I fought off hordes of huns at Mons using naught but a rubber spoon and a glass of lemonade. For that I got the Croix de Gare and a new dose of meds.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jun 12 - 09:55 PM

Poor old crippled up disabled veteran, alone and forgotten, his memories fading like the medals that he has....

Did I ever mention my part in the Battle of the Atlantic? I was conning a destroyer, escorting a convoy, fighting a Force 7 gale in early December. The North Atlantic is cold that time of year and a hot cup of coffee is sometimes the only thing that keeps you going. Suddenly sonar reported a U-boat waiting ahead! I rang General Quarters and full speed. We got off a cluster of hedgehogs and then rolled three. Sonar reported sounds of break-up and an oil slick slowly appeared on the surface. We radioed COMATLANFLT about our success and received a warm reply. A very warm reply, since it was 1967 and the West German government was somewhat upset about the whole thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Jun 12 - 09:07 PM

Booed war is what I am mainly about, Rapparreee.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Jun 12 - 09:05 PM

I thought I'd extend this, to all those who it applies to.
My rand daughter wrote this for her Dad, for Father's Day, and there is no Father's Day thread, so you guys get it, again....

You've lost your youth,
You've lost your hair,
You've lost your money,
God only knows where,
You've given so much,
it's plain to see,
But cheer up Dad.....
You still got me.


Happy Father's Day, to All of You!

GfS


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