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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 01:19 PM

Yes, and it can't eat much.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 01:11 PM

YOu are looking for a valve-less two octave Palindrome, then Rapaire, correct? also known as the "Saharan" palindrome? the single-valve and the "spit-valve" palindromes tend to require much more water.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 12:55 PM

I needed one with a big trunk to move some logs and could go without water for a long time here in the desert country.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 10:27 AM

I hope you clicked on the mudcat.amazon link to get it--the revenue goes to Mudcat, you know. (I did some shopping that way yesterday, but I didn't order a palindrome, I already have several.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 09:16 PM

Hey, I got a palindrome!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 09:09 PM

Of COURSE it will be a treat! Trumpet music always is! Just thank your lucky stars that she became a trumpeter and not some low-life like a guitar or banjo player, or worse yet, an accordionist.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 06:59 PM

Barky sends her profound agreement and thanks for your insightful remarks.

Tonight she solos in a concert at Mills College in Vizzuli's "Cascades". Turrin's "Psalm", Hindesmith's Sonata for Trumpet, 3rd Movement, and several other pieces. It will be a treat.

Drop by Lisser Hall!



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 06:01 PM

Nice story tonight on Weekend All Things Considered (12/7) about the new production of The Trumpet of the Swan (E.B. White). Sounds wonderful!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 05:57 PM

You can have no higher Paradise than to be with a trumpeter, or even to know one, or to have heard of one, or to share the same planet as one. You are fortunate indeed, and thrice-blessed, Amos, that you know more than one trumpeter. No other instrument is so God-like, so heavenly, so close to the Music of the Spheres and no other musician is so godlike.

And you can quote me on this to Barky.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Amos
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 01:54 PM

Mom has always been partial to High Tea, which is why she loves it when Bobert comes to call.

It is a cold morning in Oakland, Mom, far too chilly to dance naked with Presidents. Under other circumstances, though, it would be an interesting opportunity.

Dark African coffee hand pressed by the best barista in town; the silver notes of Barky practicing her cascades in the next room; and the morning airs from Lake Merritt wafting over the city's waking streets. Who could ask for more?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 12:19 PM

It's okay, Stilly. I gave her some of her special "tea."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 11:21 AM

Whoa, MOM! Pick yourself up and dust yourself off. What are you doing down here under the compost pile below the line? Staying warm? It's a nice day, lets get you cleaned up.

Upsee daisy. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 11:20 AM

MOM! You fell off the bottom because of the crash!

Oh my, you're shaking like a leaf in the windstorm. Here, sit down and have some of this nice "tea."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Dec 08 - 11:15 AM

Let it stand a bit and toss a handful of sand or salt in to settle the leaves.

Amos is NOT going to a concert "up north." He's a secret member of the Bohemians and he's going to the Bohemian Grove to carouse naked with other (male) pseudo-movers-'n'-shakers. Come to think of it, they will be ACTUAL "movers and shakers" as the prance around nekkid in the Grove. Cheney, W, Amos, Kim Il Sung, Prince Charles -- all prancing around moving and shaking, drinking too much beer....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Dec 08 - 11:09 AM

MOM, I'll be head-first into the eBay stuff today, but I'll try to remember to come check on you. But let's get you started with a simple breakfast. Homemade (of course! No freezer section for us) buttermilk pancakes, a sliced apple (I'm in a hurry) and a cuppa hot tea. Better use the sieve when you pour it into your cup--the tea ball opened up in the pot.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Dec 08 - 12:31 AM

We've been and are back from our concert this evening. A student group as a four-piece jazz band. A few clunkers along the way and a pouting drummer, but overall, not bad.

It's cold out there, MOM! Must be winter arriving.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 03:36 PM

I said "to"....not "in". Silly Wibwaywian!


So long, Mom!! We are pff tp the Nprth Country to hear barky play in a symphony.


Back Monday. Use only refined language until then, and remember your long-term favorite son,



A.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 03:09 PM

I thought he was too danged poor to have a pot for that.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 02:25 PM

Aha. Stilly was right. That's not the GRail atall. It is the pot to which BWL has been going all these years.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 01:10 PM

I just looked at it again and noticed that the maker's mark on the bottom (did I mention it's ceramic?) is B-W-L.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 10:35 AM

I dunno. I wasn't alive back then. But most scholars date the birth of you-know=who to 5BCE.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 10:25 AM

And shouldn't it be AD 33?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 10:23 AM

I think that is a mistranslation. What you took to mean "I'm off to Cannes" is probably ad Canes viamamos, meaning "this place is going to the dogs".

In any case I can't think of a more futile exercise than correcting the grammar or scholarship of a boondoggle. It would be like trying to proofread a dream.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 10:19 AM

AHA! Obviously a forgery as Mariam would not have used AD dating.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 10:14 AM

I dunno -- this one has a pedigree (a vellum document with the names of the caretakers) which goes way, way back. In fact, the bottom of the cup is etched with "This Is JC's Grail, MDCXXX Via Cerise, Nazareth. If found return to owner or be smitten with boils and worse." The first name on the vellum is "Mariam of Magdela, Easter, AD 29. Screw this crap, I'm off to Cannes."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 09:50 AM

You had it--it was never in Idaho, but it wasn't in Minnesota, either. Rapaire was pulling your leg, or if there is an object there, it is bogus. It was in a Dwyer attic in Connecticut for years and years. Then it travelled to Tejas.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 09:21 AM

It is a dark--nay, tragic--reflection on modern life that an object once so revered and so decorated with legend and moral narrative and fine mythic example, should be named in the same sentence as the terrible neologism "de-cluttering", a Walmart word if ever there was one.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 12:59 AM

So...did you sneak off to Idaho and smuggle it across Interstate lines from Rapaire's? Or did Rapaire steal it from you while the bidding was going on? Or is Rapaire just making up his end of the story?



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 11:31 PM

Aren't you clever, Amos! It was included in part of my de-cluttering project as I move some stuff out of here. The grail didn't go for much on eBay; it was supposed to go in the collectible -> antiquities -> priceless vessels category, but I'd had a little wine that evening when I was listing it and it ended up in the collectible -> vessels -> tug boat category, who knows how, but it did. Tugs don't go for much these days. They're high maintenance. The winning bid was $2.39.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 11:00 PM

A one-dimensional universe would preclude the circle, because if a circle were included it would have diameter AND would be effectively infinite (although a straight line could be of infinite length). No circle, no pi.

As for the grail, it was entrusted to me three years ago by an old man, a descendant of Percival (or Parsifal, if you prefer). He had no descendants and was the last of his line, so he entrusted it to the only person he knew who was "sans peur et sans reproche." He -- his surname was Dulac and I never knew his first name -- died very shortly thereafter and was "buried at sea" in what remains of Gray's Lake. I wasn't at his funeral and so cannot verify the stories about it so I shan't repeat them here.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 10:55 PM

Thousands of candles can be lighted from a single candle, and the life of the candle will not be shortened. Happiness never decreases by being shared.
?Buddha


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 10:27 PM

Well, sir, you have been hoist by your own petard, there. Indeed, the Grail could never have come from the Holy Land to your house--not even if Perceval, or Saint Clair himself, had borne it--if this were a one dimensional universe. For your house was never extant when they had it, nor anywhere near where they had it when it finally showed up. So two dimensions is clearly your minimum, even if they walked over the waters and straight to Idaho, which no-one in their right mind would want to do.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 09:46 PM

Well, I'm not supposed to tell anyone but I have it here at the house.

And I say it doesn't. You've ignored the possibility of a one-dimensional universe.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 08:05 PM

No finer linen will arise therefrom, as by the fairest thread, and not the greatest number, thy loom is known.

Oh, by the way:

"In Wolfram von Eschenbach's telling, the Grail was kept safe at the castle of Munsalvaesche (mons salvationis), entrusted to Titurel, the first Grail King. Some, not least the monks of Montserrat, have identified the castle with the real sanctuary of Montserrat in Catalonia, Spain. Other stories claim that the Grail is buried beneath Rosslyn Chapel or lies deep in the spring at Glastonbury Tor. Still other stories claim that a secret line of hereditary protectors keep the Grail, or that it was hidden by the Templars in Oak Island, Nova Scotia's famous "Money Pit", while local folklore in Accokeek, Maryland says that it was brought to the town by a closeted priest aboard Captain John Smith's ship. Turn of the century accounts state that Irish partisans of the Clan Dhuir (O'Dwyer, Dwyer) transported the Grail to the United States during the 19th Century and the Grail was kept by their descendents in secrecy in a small abbey in the upper-Northwest (now believed to be Southern Minnesota)"

As the direct heiress of the D(w)yer clan, I'd like to know what you know about smuggling the Holy Grail to the Pacific Northwest or Southern Minnesota, whichever comes first.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 07:25 PM

LH, I was just now catching up after opening the thread and thinking "Geez, louise, but these guys must all be retirees!" Don't they ever get any work done?

I get two weeks over the holidays, maybe my thread count will increase.

:)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 07:07 PM

I say it does.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 06:47 PM

No, it doesn't. Mathematically it can't.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 05:52 PM

Yes, but less so. The translation is non-linear for those things, but pi carries its spatial relationship built into the definition, so it remain constant in every universe.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 04:48 PM

So is e, the square root of -1, c, the length of a meter, and some other things.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 04:25 PM

In all this going to and fro, this sturm and drang given and received, one constant in these hallowed halls has been pi.

We should learn from this to be more radial and take our positions diametrically, and to be, too, more centered and less absorbed in perimetrical matters. What goes a-round becomes, in turn, the center of dicourse.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 04:15 PM

Mom told me that it's a "Gang of n".


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 04:12 PM

And the pity of it is....I didn't even get a buzz!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 04:05 PM

MOM!

Little Hawk's been smoking ilk-dung again!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 04:00 PM

So, Mario....you resist my attempts to provoke political controversy at the higher levels of the MOABS? Well, sir, perhaps you will escape the concern and zealous scrutiny of the party operatives at this time. We shall see.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 03:48 PM

NO makee sense, LH!

1) there is no "Gang of Three"

2) if there WERE a "gang of three" I'd just ask Mom for permission to have it be a "gang of four" or whatever.

3) If there were a "gang" of howevermany" - implying a position of power, their overthrow or supplantation would be in AIDE of the peoples, not a crime against the peoples.

4) all I was doing was coming in here and having literary diarrhea as has been my wont for many thousands of posts.


You've been hanging out with ilk again, haven't you?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 03:28 PM

You are attempting to supplant a ruling member of the Gang of Three, MMario. To do that is to verge into dangerous territory which can best be described as "counterrevolutionary" or perhaps even..."revisionist"!

Amos, I really don't know what I would do without your earnest efforts to save me from my...dare I say it?...."jejeunite"...if there is such a word (please place an accent mark on the final 'e'). I am eternally grateful for your solicitous and compassionate concern on my behalf. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 03:22 PM

HEY! What crimes against the peoples?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 03:07 PM

Just a thought on energy saving:

That little light that goes on when you open the refrigerator door -- would it save any energy if that was replaced by a candle?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 03:03 PM

From what I've learned of it it's always been in that quicksand, Amos. Someone jumping on its head isn't going to make it sink any further or any faster.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 02:58 PM

MEbbe, maybe not, If there's nothing much he can do to harm it, surely he could find some more effective way to advance it out of the miasmic quicksand of manic irrelevance in which it has found itself lately?


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