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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 06:40 PM

--
I am content to follow to its source
Every event, in action or in thought;
Measure the lot, forgive myself the lot!
When such as I cast out remorse,
So great a sweetness flows into the breast
We must laugh and we must sing.
We are blest by everything
Everything we look upon is blest.

Dialogue of Self and Soul, W.B. Yeats


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 04:41 PM

I remember being cooncerned once. One of the bastards had me cornered in the garage. He demanded garbage "or else".


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 04:33 PM

Wel, we'll have to share. The procedure was complete and successful. I am still surfacing from a purple haze of full-system anesthetic, but at lease I can write run-on sentences again. Why, you may well ask, given the various conditions of risk inherent in any modern medical procedure, and my own temperament, to which you all have been adequately exposed to establish at least a rudimentary familiarity, through our long acquaintance here at MOAB, should I have to, or at least now be enabled to, write sentences thought of as run-on in their grammatical construction? It had been cooncerned that they would send me home with a semi-colon.


But I will use what they gave me: a complete colon. And I shall strive: to us eit with care, and never abuse it, amongst those for whom I care: the children of the MOPAB.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 01:18 PM

Gosh...I...I almost hope he doesn't come back...

Imagine if I could have Amos's humility and discernment! Whoosh. The mind boggles. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 09:46 AM

HEy Mom:

Today I am going to the Temple of the Medicos. I am not sure whether they want to canonize or sacrifice me.

But when the Temple calls, Eveyrman must answer.

If I don't come back, give my sense of humor to Rapaire and my humility and discernment to Little Hawk, and my earthy sensuality to Still. You can throw the rest out.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 12:33 AM

Naw, none of us is interesting in wearing mink[e].


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 24 Nov 08 - 09:20 PM

Harpoon cannon???? Hey--you guys interested in a little business deal with some Japanese colleagues of mine?



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 24 Nov 08 - 05:24 PM

MOM! MOM! Wake up--you've been dreaming that the Mudcat went away, and by golly, it did! You have to be more disciplined in your REM sleep!

Whew!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Nov 08 - 07:15 PM

Well, Mom shouldn't have yelled "Thar she blows!" either. You have to admit that not every Legion post in a land-locked state has a harpoon cannon.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 23 Nov 08 - 04:06 PM

Thank you! Very interesting.

I think MOM needs to get out and get some exercise today, it's going to get cold outside soon. Unless she's invited to go hang out in San Diego for a while and go kayaking with Amos?

Has she ever asked to get back in a boat again after that unfortunate incident when the Legion guys sank her and her Boston whaler a couple of years ago? It was inexcusable, to be discharging firearms and ancient artillery in the dark. Just cause MOM had a light over the water to attract fish was not an invitation to those idiots to fire at will at what they thought was a low-flying alien craft.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Nov 08 - 03:35 PM

Glory be! I wonder how I missed that?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 23 Nov 08 - 01:28 PM

Original story can be found here.

Bookmeister needs to hit the books to discover how a chariot differs from a bicycle (or an intergalactic scout survey vessel).


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 23 Nov 08 - 01:00 AM

Or an ox, as in Ox pulls a box. I actually was looking more for the "Thrace" end of things, but nothing. I couldn't tease more for the story out of that link.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 22 Nov 08 - 10:52 PM

SOmetimes they used two of those Thracian bicycles side by side, with a big box balanced on the top in between them, to move goods and heavy objects. They'd tie a donkey to the front and make him pull them. Damn clever, these Thracians.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Nov 08 - 06:04 PM

Well, apparently there was a thing called "Le Grande Prix du Thrace" in which the contestants raced around the countryside on ancient bicyles which had wheels four feet in diameter, beheading peasants who were too slow to get out of the way. The Thracian king (or Queen, as the same person held both offices) eventually had to have the event stopped as the participants were roaring into towns, drinking up the beer harvest, ogling the ladies and/or men, and generally annoying the populace. The photo was from the site of what appears to have been the clubhouse of an ancient Thracian biker gang.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Nov 08 - 03:22 PM

I'm not sure that was Khandu. As I noted earlier, Mom thinks he's gone to the great fretboard in the sky.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 22 Nov 08 - 03:22 PM

Alright, Mr. Library Man--let's have more about the ancient bikes in Thrace. I can't find anything with those keywords.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 22 Nov 08 - 03:15 PM

Do you suppose Khandu will come back to visit in another 20,000 posts?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 22 Nov 08 - 01:37 PM

Who cares how he pronounced it? Point is those were expensive bribes. I see where GM, Ford, and Chrysler are not out there digging for another 25 of those bouillyons. We are being asked to stand up and be bribed or they'll talk about how we tolerated their unconscionable executive salaries for so long, and won;t THAT be an insufferable embarrassment!!!



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Nov 08 - 12:18 PM

No, he said "billy-uns and billy-uns."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 22 Nov 08 - 11:34 AM

MWahaha. Billions and billions, as Carl Sagan once said....



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Nov 08 - 10:09 AM

No, it was in Illinois. Expensive bribes are only expected where bribery is uncommon.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 10:19 PM

I'm surprised you would have gotten enough for it to bribe a judge...but I guess this was an Idaho judge, right?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 08:56 PM

Ancient bicycles with wheels four feet in diameter have been found in
Thrace!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 08:45 PM

I had a personal Universe once when I was younger. I sold it so I could afford to bribe a judge. It's a long, sordid, story with which I shan't bore you.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 03:44 PM

That's right. Billions of new Universes will have sprung into being by the time I finish typing this sentence!

The funny thing is, we only get to experience the one where we have decided to focus our attention.

In my dog's Universe, for example, he is the owner and boss of the entire world...except when he finds himself at the Vet's office getting his nails clipped. Then his personal Universe collapses.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 02:37 PM

Khandu, that's the exact thing Mom said as she sat there in her rocking chair, weeping for her "lost little boy": "Irate wife." I asked her about it and she just pointed to your old closet.

Amos, Chaos Theory has that postulate about the butterfly causing windstorms on the other side of the world. It has long been recognized that a cat can look at a Queen even as she sits in state. And the Multiple Universe theory postulates that each discrete event causes a change which creates a new universe. You're logical enough to see where this is going.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 02:07 PM

The only form of employment those idiots would ever look for is "temporary".

By the by, I have a photo of Maggie Thatcher here that will cause anyone's wave-form eigenstate bundle to collapse. I guarantee it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 01:49 PM

LEt's hope the mouse doesn't find it first--if its wave-form eigenstate bundle collapses before Hawk gets there there will be hell to pay, and the Reg brothers are looking for temporary employment, so they might as well get the job to rub out Little Hawk.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 01:45 PM

Oh, yeah? I'm lookin', man, I'm lookin'.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 01:39 PM

Cleigh hails from my dining room china cupboard.

I have issued a challenge to you Hawk......Go find it.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 01:02 PM

It was Schrodinger's o'possum. He was either hale or he was dead, depending on the mouse who observed him. He hailed from Tennessee.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 12:27 PM

Did the O'possum originally hale from Ireland?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 11:54 AM

Or to put another twist on it...

when the subject burgeons, bottle the burgguignon.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 11:50 AM

Oddly enough, just after I wrote that last post, I went and read an article in Science News presenting a posthumous essay by Dr John Wheeler (1911-2008) on the shifts in thought and language imposed on us by the boundaries of quantum theory. In this essay he actually quotes Einstein, who was discomfited by the directions implied by the burgeoning subject:
IF a person, such as a mouse, looks at the universe, does taht change the state of the universe?
Wheeler says Einstein made this remark in the last lecture he ever gave in his life. This gives rise to two thoughts.

One, it is a bit unnerving tothink I just voiced a very similar thought (although I used a person such as an opossum).

Second, the really important part of Einstein's remark has never been highlighted properly. Here we have the leading genius of physics in the whole human race, and he is granting personhood to a mouse.

This is really intriguing. Observation, according to the quantum theorists, influences outcome. But...observation by what? Or should I say, by whom?. EInstein is leading us to the Stuart Little School of Physics. Should we go there?

Wheeler concludes:
"My feeling is that in this show, the territory we've got to get into is so broad, that the only thing to do is to plunge into it and start making tracks, no matter if the track is leading into a swamp. You'll find out."


Well, how about we just count to 3?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 11:48 AM

The Legion hasn't been by for a while, and Gluon seems to finally thread-broken the gluettes.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: khandu
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 11:41 AM

"Subject: RE: BS: It seems to me...
From: Amos - PM
Date: 04 Nov 08 - 01:16 PM

Khandu:

You should be ashamed of staying away from Mom for so long.


A

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Subject: RE: BS: It seems to me...
From: Rapaire - PM
Date: 04 Nov 08 - 03:31 PM

Quite. Just the other day she was saying, "Where, oh where, is Khandu? He, she, or it hasn't been around in a couple of coons' ages. Is he daid, and if so, was it by a truck on the highway or an irate wife?""



Indeed, Amos. I am ashamed. I hang my head in shame. I am a tortured soul for my inactions toward Mom. I cast a heavy blanket over my entire self and grovel beneath it in penance for my inattention to her. Perhaps I shall purchase a whip and flagellate myself of find some shattered glass to crawl upon.

Perhaps I will just visit her instead!

Looks like y'all have done some renovation since the last time I visited the thread. Looks good...smells rather pleasantly fresh. Hmmm....you must be keeping Spaw and Tweed on a tight leash.

Excuse me, Rap; did you say "an irate wife"?
Perhaps you meant "an irate husband".

Damn, I swear this place smells much better.

k


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 11:38 AM

Oppossums usually just gnaw through the bundles; but Raccoons actually untie them and carefully wash each sheaf of the eigenstate.

Why is not known. It's probably a raccoon thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 11:15 AM

inhuman data is highly unreliable? Doesn't that sort of kick all sorts of science in the ol' head?

Nah--the data is human, even though they are data about inhuman situations. It isn't data until a human has observed it.

This does raise an interesting question about the impact of non-human observation on eigenstates. Can an opossum, for example, unbundle a sheaf of probability states by observing an experiment -- you know, say he snuck in through a roof vent or something. Or does it require human attention to dispose of Schrodinger's cat?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 11:01 AM

It occurs to me to ask: if Clinton didn't inhale, didn't he get fatally short of breath?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 10:04 AM

Maybe under the Obama Administration you could get that approved. CLinton didm't inhume.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 10:02 AM

Ken has shown no signs of life for years; nor has barbie. they should both be inhumed.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 12:37 AM

"Don't ask, don't tell."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 11:26 PM

Well, damn! If I'd known the conversation was going to go this way I'd have way-laid the inhuman opossum I slowed down for on the road tonight and brought him home and asked him about this unhuman ken and the K-Mart treasure.

This doesn't have to go on anyone's taxes, does it? The feds don't tax "finders keepers," right?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 10:51 PM

So inhuman data is highly unreliable? Doesn't that sort of kick all sorts of science in the ol' head?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 10:34 PM

Look, just because it is beyond human ken does NOT necessarily mean it is within inhuman ken. Just ask any inhuman, some passing raccoon or Stilly's dogs, for example, and you will learn that soon enough. It might be within imaginary playmates ken, which might qualify as inhuman, but it is likely to be highly unreliable data.





A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 10:07 PM

Well, does the INhuman Ken know where the treasure is?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 10:03 PM

Barbie herself has taken the Turing Test about 23 times and failed to pass it once. So there's your answer.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 09:44 PM

Is there an INhuman Ken? And if so, can Barbie tell them apart?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 08:33 PM

Well, at the time, there were K-Marts from Clinton to Dubuque and from Chicago to Wichita Falls. It is unfortunate that particular K-Mart in question was sold several times, to a Jazzercize Clinic, a weights and treadmills gym, a Dianetics Foundation, and finally a warehouse for some Amway chain leader who had a HUGE downline. By that time, everyone had forgotten there even WAS a basement. The building was plowed over and made into a parking lot, but the basement is still here, lost to human ken.


A


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