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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 09 Jul 17 - 10:00 PM

Swimsuit competition? Swimsuit competition? Librarians don't wear no stinking swimsuits.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jul 17 - 10:24 PM

There are quite a few librarians I don't want to see in a swimsuit. On the other hand....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 09 Jul 17 - 10:37 PM

Leaked photo from this year's Research Librarian Swimsuit Competition.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jul 17 - 09:31 AM

above the knee? tsk tsk... and Leah knows it.



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In Egypt's ancient Library
a scribe late at night described
"a mouse saw a cat but didn't hide
It tapped the cat, it was scary

The cat ate the entire mouse
What spell did the cat cast so well?"
It was the mouse brain truth to tell
Toxoplasmosis is in your house

The parasite controls all mice
for cats to eat them to live on
toxo grows in cats then is gondi.
Toxo controls brains its not nice

Cats don't have owners they have staff.
Cat lovers may have toxo brains
and do not bother to complain
It could be you so do not laugh

Donuel 9:31 AM Monday


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Jul 17 - 09:42 AM

Oh My God! You can see their knees! Hussies! Harlots! They probably work in Cataloging (those people don't get out much)! Notice how this librarian modestly covers her knees.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jul 17 - 10:19 AM

The following 12 photos of her are less modest.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jul 17 - 11:13 AM

I always avoid rhyming every two lines like a klaxon bell blasting a rhythm for Roman galley oarsmen. Its up to a singer or speaker to enhance the intent beyond matching sounds and rhythm.

For example in the latest poem, the word Gon-di has a slight pause before gon and 'di' and a much smaller pause before the next line.

One can also rhyme with concepts beyond similar sounds like genre or category. Have you ever tried rhyming in different senses other than sound? In this way you can telegraph the unsaid as if the idea comes from inside a readers head. I don't know the word for using expectation instead but works if you come from mountain folk or kings and are in- a hurry.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: keberoxu
Date: 10 Jul 17 - 12:13 PM

Delighted, Rapparee, to see Robin Flower's elegant translation of Pangur Bán posted here, many thanks.

Samuel Barber, in his Hermit Songs cycle from the marginalia of monastery manuscripts, set to music a prose approach to Pangur Bán.
The translator is W. H. Auden.

Pangur, white Pangur,
How happy we are, alone together,
Scholar and cat.

Each has his own work to do daily;
For you, it is hunting;
For me, study.

Your shining eye watches the wall;
My feeble eye is fixed on a book.

You rejoice when your claws entrap a mouse;
I rejoice when my mind fathoms a problem.

Pleased with his own art,
Neither hinders the other.
Thus we live ever, without tedium and envy.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Jul 17 - 02:36 PM

In this mortal life there is mostly tedium and envy!

The prose intent is incontinent. It is a collection of poor metaphors. Its devoid of charm, but I see no harm.

...somebody turn off that klaxon alarm!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 10 Jul 17 - 04:56 PM

Look it up!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Jul 17 - 08:18 PM

Damn Straight! I'm retired. You want I should do all your work for you?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Jul 17 - 09:36 AM

Remember, it was only 1,100 years ago that the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle reported that "This year rode the army, after Easter, out of Northampton and Leicester; and having broken the truce they slew many men at Hookerton and thereabout. Then, very soon after this, as the others came home, they found other troops that were riding out against Leighton. But the inhabitants were aware of it; and having fought with them they put them into full flight; and arrested all that they had taken, and also of their horses and of their weapons a good deal."

I tell you this so that you are aware of it and all that proceeded from it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Jul 17 - 10:14 AM

The preamble of the Code of Hammurabi (I doubt that you've seen it before):

When Anu the Sublime, King of the Anunaki, and Bel, the lord of Heaven and earth, who decreed the fate of the land, assigned to Marduk, the over-ruling son of Ea, God of righteousness, dominion over earthly man, and made him great among the Igigi, they called Babylon by his illustrious name, made it great on earth, and founded an everlasting kingdom in it, whose foundations are laid so solidly as those of heaven and earth; then Anu and Bel called by name me, Hammurabi, the exalted prince, who feared God, to bring about the rule of righteousness in the land, to destroy the wicked and the evil-doers; so that the strong should not harm the weak; so that I should rule over the black-headed people like Shamash, and enlighten the land, to further the well-being of mankind.

Hammurabi, the prince, called of Bel am I, making riches and increase, enriching Nippur and Dur-ilu beyond compare, sublime patron of E-kur; who reestablished Eridu and purified the worship of E-apsu; who conquered the four quarters of the world, made great the name of Babylon, rejoiced the heart of Marduk, his lord who daily pays his devotions in Saggil; the royal scion whom Sin made; who enriched Ur; the humble, the reverent, who brings wealth to Gish-shir-gal; the white king, heard of Shamash, the mighty, who again laid the foundations of Sippara; who clothed the gravestones of Malkat with green; who made E-babbar great, which is like the heavens, the warrior who guarded Larsa and renewed E-babbar, with Shamash as his helper; the lord who granted new life to Uruk, who brought plenteous water to its inhabitants, raised the head of E-anna, and perfected the beauty of Anu and Nana; shield of the land, who reunited the scattered inhabitants of Isin; who richly endowed E-gal-mach; the protecting king of the city, brother of the god Zamama; who firmly founded the farms of Kish, crowned E-me-te-ursag with glory, redoubled the great holy treasures of Nana, managed the temple of Harsag-kalama; the grave of the enemy, whose help brought about the victory; who increased the power of Cuthah; made all glorious in E-shidlam, the black steer, who gored the enemy; beloved of the god Nebo, who rejoiced the inhabitants of Borsippa, the Sublime; who is indefatigable for E-zida; the divine king of the city; the White, Wise; who broadened the fields of Dilbat, who heaped up the harvests for Urash; the Mighty, the lord to whom come scepter and crown, with which he clothes himself; the Elect of Ma-ma; who fixed the temple bounds of Kesh, who made rich the holy feasts of Nin-tu; the provident, solicitous, who provided food and drink for Lagash and Girsu, who provided large sacrificial offerings for the temple of Ningirsu; who captured the enemy, the Elect of the oracle who fulfilled the prediction of Hallab, who rejoiced the heart of Anunit; the pure prince, whose prayer is accepted by Adad; who satisfied the heart of Adad, the warrior, in Karkar, who restored the vessels for worship in E-ud-gal-gal; the king who granted life to the city of Adab; the guide of E-mach; the princely king of the city, the irresistible warrior, who granted life to the inhabitants of Mashkanshabri, and brought abundance to the temple of Shidlam; the White, Potent, who penetrated the secret cave of the bandits, saved the inhabitants of Malka from misfortune, and fixed their home fast in wealth; who established pure sacrificial gifts for Ea and Dam-gal-nun-na, who made his kingdom everlastingly great; the princely king of the city, who subjected the districts on the Ud-kib-nun-na Canal to the sway of Dagon, his Creator; who spared the inhabitants of Mera and Tutul; the sublime prince, who makes the face of Ninni shine; who presents holy meals to the divinity of Nin-a-zu, who cared for its inhabitants in their need, provided a portion for them in Babylon in peace; the shepherd of the oppressed and of the slaves; whose deeds find favor before Anunit, who provided for Anunit in the temple of Dumash in the suburb of Agade; who recognizes the right, who rules by law; who gave back to the city of Ashur its protecting god; who let the name of Ishtar of Nineveh remain in E-mish-mish; the Sublime, who humbles himself before the great gods; successor of Sumula-il; the mighty son of Sin-muballit; the royal scion of Eternity; the mighty monarch, the sun of Babylon, whose rays shed light over the land of Sumer and Akkad; the king, obeyed by the four quarters of the world; Beloved of Ninni, am I.


Kinda conceited was he.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jul 17 - 11:38 AM

When Ed Koch the Mayor of New York City who awarded the mob to renovate the Central Park ice rink failed after 6 years to finish the projects I hired the King of Trump construction, and Bel, the lord of Heaven and earth, who decreed the land to be assigned to Marduk Inc and finished the project ahead of schedule. I made it great on earth, and founded an everlasting kingdom of Real Estate in Manhattan whose foundations are laid so solidly as those of heaven and earth; then Bel Construction called by name me, Donald J Trump, the exalted prince, who feared no loans, to bring about the rule of righteousness in the land, to destroy the wicked tenants and the evil-doers; so that the strong should not harm the weak; so that I should rule over the black people like Shamash, and enlighten the land, to further the well-being of my fortune.


I managed the temple of Taj Mahal; the grave of the enemy, whose help brought about the victory; who increased the power of Cutthroats; made all glorious in Atlantic City and the Jersey Mob who gored the enemy; The Attorney General of New Jersey, The Donald and Trump. I Donald Trump who recognizes the alt right, who rules by my law; who gave back to the city of New York my name atop Hotels who let the name remain in Trump City and now Washington DC.      
I Donald Trump who never humbles himself before the great gods; successor of Bankruptcy is the hugest one of all.

I am the mighty son of Queens and the royal scum of Eternity; the mighty monarch, the sun of the East River, whose rays shed light over the land of Broads of the Universe obeyed by the four quarters of organized crime Beloved of Russia am I President Donald Trump


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jul 17 - 12:39 PM

Now that looks like plagiarism to me.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 Jul 17 - 04:06 PM

Alas, I have been overlong away
And let our addle-pated mater stray
Out of the meadows, filled with sage
Into the darkling woods of rage
Whence she has fallen off the page.

What in my folly led me to
Such unseemly wandering to do?
To yearn for life upon some other stage
Beyond the proper realm of men of age
And let our sainted Mom fall off the page.

It was not age nor plague nor pizen
But weariness with plagiarizin'
That led me to unseemly rage,
Mainly because of Booqueman sage
I let our Mom fall off the page!

Maire Tombay-Folle
Fallen Mothers and Raised Idols
Goofus Press, Gravitas Editions
Madré Caido, Spain, 1972


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jul 17 - 04:12 PM

The audience erupts
HOO RAW ! woof woof woof



that's what I thought happened. usually my insight can not peer through the fog of MOM


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Jul 17 - 09:10 PM

Within the silent city they go,
Each with his or her own troubled soul.
Never touching, never talking,
Endlessly silent, endlessly walking.

Per me si va ne la città dolente,
per me si va ne l'etterno dolore,
per me si va tra la perduta gente.


Like the barrators in the Fourth Ditch,
Circling like those sinners, knowing their niche.
Those who sold their souls, who bent the laws,
And never once did it give them pause.

         --Me, 2017


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 12 Jul 17 - 12:48 PM

To peer beyond the fog of Mom
You must climb high up a coconut palm
And face the East (toward Vietnam)
And meditate 'til you are calm
The you will know Mom is da bomb


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Jul 17 - 09:11 PM

But if you take the easiest see
From, say, Seattle (that's probably best),
You'll be up a fir tree
Looking West.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 12 Jul 17 - 09:31 PM

Well, fir, okay, there are a lot of them around, but most likely Douglas fir, which isn't a true fir. It's name is Pseudosuga for a reason.

I read the Code of Hammurabi as a freshman in college. So you know how much of it I recall. Only the title. But I have certainly heard of it!

Guess what, MOM! My 82-year-old friend Bette texted to ask if she can spend a few days at my house. I will pick her up at the airport tomorrow and though I'm not sure if we're expected for dinner at a grandson's house, we'll head back here for the night. And then my ex and I will take turns ferrying her around to various meals, museums, etc. Don't you just love having friends who know they can ask at a moment's notice and drop in for a visit? (I do, really!)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 13 Jul 17 - 12:16 AM

Moi with a little help from Dante Alighieri:

Canto III


Per me si va ne la città dolente,
per me si va ne l'etterno dolore,
per me si va tra la perduta gente.


Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme bete.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 13 Jul 17 - 02:27 PM

In retrospect, I should have said "East" (uppercase) in my poem instead of "east" (lower case). Uppercase East is a generalized geographical region, not a direction. The direction in which one faces in order to face toward The East depends on one's location on the globe. From Seattle, East is west. From Siberia, East is south. From Korea, East is just stay where you are and look down at your toes.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jul 17 - 04:01 PM

So, you know anybody that got a moose licence this year? If so, tell them not to use Hornady ammo in a semi. Especially a semi REM 30.06. You be jammin' mon.

16C at 1 PM today. I am lovin' it!

Been beatin' on haters all week on FB over Omar Khadr and NAFTA (softwood lumber) and such. My fingers are gettin' tired. Had to leave a number of groups. Left them with this post...

My mother is 90. She has seen all this before and she is very upset. She watched WW2 unfold and she is upset at what is going on now. She saw Korea unfold and she was upset. She saw Vietnam unfold and she was upset. She saw Palestine unfold and she was upset. She saw Iraq unfold and she was upset. She saw Afghanistan unfold and she was upset. She saw Bosnia/Hercegovina unfold and she was upset. She saw Sudan unfold and she was upset. She saw Egypt unfold and she was upset. She saw Libya unfold and she was upset. She saw Syria unfold and she is upset.
All of you bloodthirsty, uninformed, pitchfork armed twits had better take note of what is really going on. Or history will bite you in the ass you mindless sheep.

And this link in that post.

Peace out.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jul 17 - 09:13 PM

Amos, if it's good enough for T. S. Eliot it's good enough for me.

Gimme that ol' time poetry
Gimme that ol' time poetry
Gimme that ol' time poetry
It's good enough for me!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: JennyO
Date: 14 Jul 17 - 01:02 AM

Mom fell off the page today! Unthinkable! I feel so guilty! I know I'm only one of your part-time children, mom, but I promise I'll look after you better in future. Here is some chocolate, with a little bit of something else hidden in there to make you feel better!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 17 - 08:56 AM

Couldn't have. We had her chained to the wall, inside a strong cage that is kept inside a steel box with four meter thick walls, inside a windowless stone dungeon a kilometer underground that is surrounded by guard towers and web of tanglefoot, pit traps, roving guard dogs, and electronic surveillance stuff, and above ground it's ever more secure. While I'm not saying that she couldn't get out, it would be very difficult even for her. She'd need quantum entanglements and a ship in orbit around Trappist-1F with a QE Mark LVII spin filter, and a power source equal to or greater than that of a supernova. Nope, escape isn't likely. I'd give her only a 50-50 chance of pulling it off.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 14 Jul 17 - 02:06 PM

No, Mom did not fall off the page. She jumped.

Mom has these self-destructive fits occasionally, usually when someone forgets to check her liquor supply to make sure she's well-stocked with good booze. When she runs out of the good stuff and starts hitting the rotgut, things can go south pretty quickly. Sometimes she runs out entirely and pays a visit to Clem Earl Bowden's still for some of that 'shine he runs through the radiator from a '56 Studebaker. After a big jelly jar of that stuff, Mom's apt to do something really crazy, like try to leave the MOAB altogether and jump over to some political thread nobody outside the UK could possibly give a shit about.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Vashta Nerada
Date: 14 Jul 17 - 05:06 PM

Naw, she didn't jump, she slipped. I think Rap was playing with the hagfish truck and created a gawdawful mess, and there she went, ass-over-applecart, right off the page.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 17 - 09:41 PM

That was only 12 hours driving time, or 763 miles, away. I think it was reported that some of the slime coated our airport's runways. Well, runway. Well, grass strip.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: JennyO
Date: 15 Jul 17 - 03:01 PM

You have grass strip? Bloody luxury! When I were a girl, all we 'ad were two little pieces of stone and when a plane wanted to land, we 'ad to run alongside with the pieces, ready to put on the ground where we wanted the wheels to go. This took a lot of calculation and a certain amount of loss of life and limb if we wanted to get it right.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jul 17 - 09:58 PM

"Grass strip". The grass trip upon which planes land here is 47mm wide and 23mm long. It's so big because during WW2 what's now the airport was used as a training base for bomber pilots. Some of their bombs still lay amongst the beautiful peaks and sagebrush, waiting for a wandering wanderer to come whistling "The Happy Wanderer" just prior to the bomb finally detonating. Sometimes they don't even wait but decide that 72 years or more is long enough to wait. Fortunately these 227kg (and more) are way, way, up in hills or way, way, out in the desert on the grounds of the Idaho National Laboratory, or on the Ft. Hall Indian Reservation (just one has ever been found and that was deactivated in short order).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jul 17 - 10:45 AM

Under-priveleged childhood, huh? We had to fly places under our own power!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 16 Jul 17 - 11:49 AM

Hi Mom!

Stephen Hawking has been expressing concerns about potential negative, even disastrous, effects of the use of artificial intelligence. Well, Dr. Hawking, you have nothing to worry about as long as nobody teaches an AI how to sing "Bicycle Built for Two". Anything else, right up to giving AIs the launch codes for nuclear missiles, is okay. Just don't teach them that song! It's a sure pathway to disaster!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jul 17 - 08:31 PM

AI at work.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jul 17 - 09:32 AM

Alas, poor Amos! I knew him, gnu: a fellow
of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: he hath
borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how
abhorred in my imagination it is! my gorge rims at
it. Here hung those lips to which I've list I know
not how oft. Where be your gibes now? your
gambols? your songs? your flashes of merriment,
that were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one
now, to mock your own grinning? quite chap-fallen?


       --William Shaxspere, Ye Tragical History of Hamnet, Prince of Danegeld. (London and Dickensheet Junction, Minorprofits Press: 1588.) ll. 1,9457-20,391.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jul 17 - 01:34 PM

Poor Wendell

Hey Rap you must have been a Siri for lots of customers.

Will you recall some of the memorable questions people may have asked you at work like; Is suicide in the self help section ? or, where are the national secrets kept, you know stuff more detailed than Julian and Ethel's napkin, or "is the bible really covered in God's fingerprints?"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Jul 17 - 02:35 PM

Nay, sir, you are purblind. Or, and you be not, then you are merely filled with the blood of a scalawag, a huckster, an impermanent ne'er-do-well, an intellectual ragamuffin, a spiritual blowfish, a hulking mass of detritus run by a flounder. Be the case as it may, you are too deeply in error to seek correction, and are a hopeless case, sirrah. I bite my thumb at you.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jul 17 - 05:49 PM

Don't do that, Amos. You'll give yourself rabies.

Donuel, some of them were:

"My son needs a book on the Vietnam War, but it can't have any violence in it."

"I left a check for several thousand dollars in one of the books. Can you find it for me?"

"I'm looking for a book."

"Do you have any poems?"

And of course, the most ask question, "Where's the bathroom?"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jul 17 - 07:23 PM

automated insults here
for those unworthy of your time.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 17 Jul 17 - 09:23 PM

I think I had a record album called "Hulking Mass of Detritus" back in the late '60s, but I don't remember who it was by.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jul 17 - 09:51 PM

It was by a group called "The Mangled Minnows." It was their only album and it was a smash hit when it landed on the floor. There was no weeping and gnashing of teeth when that happened.

The group wasn't very popular because they couldn't play tag much less instruments. Their lead singer, Stinky Pooperdinck, could not only not carry a tune in a bucket, he couldn't even carry the bucket. The best review of the group said, "The Mangled Minnows will go far if they can agree on a key other than A# minor and a time other than 12/16. It would help them immensely if they could learn to play as well as turn up the volume until the eyes of the audience bleed."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Jul 17 - 10:38 PM

All of that directional stuff - here in Texas, we are assured that Fort Worth is "Where the West Begins." And that's that.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 18 Jul 17 - 07:52 AM

If Fort Worth is "Where the West Begins" if traveling from east to west, is it also "Where the East Begins" if traveling form west to east?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jul 17 - 10:14 AM

Fort Worth. FORT WORTH!? Where The West begins is further East, at the middle of the Mississippi River! The boundary between the State of Misery and Illinois! Moreover, Illinois is a proud Western State, having about 40 acres on the West side of the Mississippi!

Illinois (except Chicago): Where The West Begins! John Wayne (originally from Cincinnati) moseying down the dusty Main Street, six-guns on his hip! The music playing "Do Not Forsake Me, Oh Mah Darlin'"!
The REAL West! Not that overgrown urban sprawl of Ft. Worth, but towns like Big Neck, Hull, and Pontoosac!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 18 Jul 17 - 01:25 PM

I disagree! St. Louis is "The Gateway to the West", not "Where the West Begins". The two terms are not synonymous.

If you're boarding a commercial jetliner, you must walk through a jetway to get to the plane. Entering the jetway does not mean you are aboard the plane.

Similarly, entering "The Gateway to the West" is not the same as being in the West because the gateway in question is approximately 250 miles long! The West actually begins at the Missouri/Kansas border.

Missouri is not of the East or the West. It's just Missouri.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 Jul 17 - 03:54 PM

Oh, sheesh, amongst other things.

My childhood home was near Lake Erie. I was never certain where Lake Erie was.
Was Lake Erie in the East?
Was it part of the Western Reserve?
Was it part of the Heartland?
Was it in the Midwest?

Not to speak of Canada being on the other side of the lake.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jul 17 - 11:07 PM

Up until September 10, 1813 Lake Erie was part of Canada, a colony of England. Where one lives may or may not be part of the Western Reserve (a GREAT school, Case Western Reserve!) Cleveland, Hudson, Hiram, Burton, Garrettsville, Kent, Akron -- all definitely are part of it. Toledo, Maumee, Cedar Point...maybe not. Cincinnati, Dayton, Findlay -- nope, although they were all affected by the 1794 Treaty of Greenville. Detroit and Chicago definitely are not Western Reserve. Does this help any? Oh, yeah -- Kentucky and Indiana were not part of the WR either.

Pocatello: Gateway to the Pacific Northwest! Not the Old Northwest, but the Pacific one, further west.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Jul 17 - 08:37 AM

This simple song and its purity of tone hypnotized me for about an hour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfRPLbSyiSM

I suppose it is the gateway to the new Twin Peaks which is about parallel dimensions (good speakers recommended .

When I grew up in Illinois I considered going down the river in the Ozarks as the wild west.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Jul 17 - 08:54 AM

After moving to Denver I understood what the gateway to the West was all about with the vertical wall of mountains springing up from the flat land.


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