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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Amos 05 Jan 07 - 11:37 AM
MMario 05 Jan 07 - 11:41 AM
Amos 05 Jan 07 - 11:45 AM
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MMario 05 Jan 07 - 11:57 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 11:37 AM

Faux 8884!!! Yay!

You should be aware that:

The approximate mass of an electron is 9 x 10^-31 kilograms.

The approximate mass of an elephant is 5 x 10^3 kilograms.

The approximate mass of the known physical universe is approximately 10^53 kilograms.

And that, my friends, is a great many indeed of kilograms.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 11:41 AM

so the universe masses (roughly) 2*10^50 standard elephants?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 11:45 AM

And, as well, that while we THINK of a second as
_______1______ of a mean solar day, it is actually
      60x60x24
more precisely measured as 9,192,631,770 vibrations of one atom of cesium, to an accuracy of about 1/10^13.


The world itself will serve as the quiz.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 11:46 AM

I've been to Quincy, Florida. The experience was so uneventful that I have no further use for it. You can have it to add to your collection, Rapaire. No compensation required.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 11:50 AM

Faux 8888!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 11:53 AM

You are a dog, sir!! Less by far than a standard elephant.

Well said, MM. I think you are the first scientist in history to define the universe in terms of the standard elephant. This should go down in the history books of brilliant insights.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 11:57 AM

I'm pretty sure that somewhere on Discworld there has to be a "standard elephant" unit of measure.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 12:14 PM

But why settle for a standard elephant when, for just $3,000 more, you can get one with air conditioning, cruise control, and a rear-window defroster?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 12:18 PM

Ha! Did you get suckered into that? ALL elephants come with cruise control. And built-in rear defrosters. The air conditioning is optional though.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 12:43 PM

Hmmmph!!!! That's the last time I'll buy an elephant from someone named "Vinnie"!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 12:49 PM

Yeah, Vinnie is a sharp operator. He tried to tell me he came from a long line of mahouts, but I wasn't having any. Places I go, I don't need four-leg-drive, especially two stories tall.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 12:49 PM

of course, when you do purchase the optional air conditioning, all that happens is they open the howdah. Since that is easily done on your own, I'd much rather perform the howdah duty myself.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: frogprince
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 12:58 PM

It's howdah duty time, it's howdah duty time...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 01:07 PM

when it gets overheated inside, yes.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 01:07 PM

You guys in the peanut gallery owe me a new keyboard!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 01:24 PM

could you enunciate a bit more, please Amos? I don't hear clara(sa)belle anymore.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 01:26 PM

Howdah duty?

No thanks, mahout hurts.

Howdah duty?

Fine thanks, how 'boutchoo?

Howdah duty?

Easy -- just sit on the john and let nature take its course.

Howdah duty?

Let me offer you a special rate on our super-powerful Miracle Howdah CLeaner...


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 01:31 PM

Through Summer, Fall, Winter, Spring
That was 8900 you heard ring!!
Call the herd, and join the Muster
Look out, gang, it's P.T. Bluster!
Don't be playing with your pud,
Or you'll answer to Chief Thunderthud!
To sleep and dream, ah, there's the rub,
Dreaming of the Flubadub!!
While a bad boy jeers and pelts her
Indian Princess runs from seltzer!
Better far than Rooty Kazooty
And Polka Dotty, is Howdah Duty!!


Hey, kids!! What time is it?????


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 01:34 PM

As an editorial remark for the under-priveleged or uninformed:

"Howdy, who premiered in March 1948 was an all-American boy with red hair, forty-eight freckles (one for each state in the Union), and a permanent smile. Howdy's face symbolized the youthful energy of the new medium and appeared on the NBC color test pattern beginning in 1954.

Smith treated the marionettes as if they were real, and as a result, so did the children of America. Among the many unusual marionettes on the show was Phineas T. Bluster, Doodyville's entrepreneurial mayor. Howdy's grumpy nemesis, Bluster had eyebrows that shot straight up when he was surprised. Bluster's naive, high-school-aged accomplice, was Dilly Dally, who wiggled his ears when he was frustrated. Flub-a-dub was a whimsical character who was a combination of eight animals. In Howdy and Me, Smith notes, "Howdy, Mr. Bluster, Dilly, and the Flub-a-Dub gave the impression that they could cut their strings, saunter off the stage, and do as they pleased." "

More at http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/H/htmlH/howdydoodys/howdydoodys.htm

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 02:01 PM

I never watched Howdy Doody so I'll skip that one.

Earlier you asked about why 8088?

Here's why. And here. My first computer was an 8088--the Eagle.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 02:08 PM

Mine was a CPM-driven Osborne 1 which was positively luggable.

I loved learning about it and wrote my first large program on it -- it was for my wife to balance her checkbook on. It had unusual error messages like "Acccck!! Go get Amos!!!" and "Are you really sure you wrote a check that big?".


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 02:12 PM

yup - the good ol' eagle. we had one. IN fact - I think we just finally chucked it into the disposal pit last summer.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 02:20 PM

I really like this picture. Why? Because the coin they use for size comparison is totally unfamiliar. I have no idea whether it's half the size of a US dime or as big as a dinner plate. For all the information the photo transmits, that chip may be big enough to use as an anchor for a small boat!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 02:32 PM

I don't think anyone would have a yen to use it that way. Nor any five of them, either!! :D

It is clear you find the Japanese currency disoccidenting.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 02:47 PM

SOrry. I was just wrong.

"The coin I used in the picture is New Taiwanese Dollar (NTD) 5 dollar coin; it's diameter is about 2.2cm (for coin size comparison, please browse through my collection and you can find a special image that has the USA, Canada, Taiwan, Japan's coin and a rare CPU in the same picture)."

From Nikko's website.

I will drink lots of water to make amends.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 02:48 PM

Except I don't think that's a yen. It doesn't have the same text on it as 5 yen coins. Looks Chinese, but the image banks seem only to have old coins, the ones with holes in them.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 04:53 PM

Haha! Mwahaha! I got my confession in BEFORE your accusation!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 05:22 PM

Our first computer was a Leading Edge! And it had a 20 MB hard drive! And 64 kb of RAM! And an amber monitor!

Y'all eat yer hearts out!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 05:32 PM

They were being written at the same time, but I had a couple of screens to lower before I sent it, or they would have arrived simultaneously. No acknowledgement that I could (somehow!) tell the difference between Japanese and Chinese?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 10:15 PM

You were right.

I was wrong.

But you knew that.

Well done on spotting my yen for yuan.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 10:42 PM

It takes a big man to admit he was wrong, Amos. And even though you're only 3'2" tall, it still makes you a big man.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 12:30 AM

The MOAB is like that, like life, the yen and yuan finely balanced.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 09:16 AM

Well.

There's been an interesting development. The police are putting a substation in an old store just a couple blocks from the Legion Hovel.

It's not exactly an old store. It's actually an old, an old, well, an old whorehouse and opium den that was closed during The Great Vice Raids that followed the closing of the Air Base here after WW2. (Couldn't very well close them up DURING the War, could we? I mean, where would the boys 'n' girls have gone for off-duty recreation?) Anyway, the cops are turning it into a full-time, staffed, police substation and the folks in the Legion are quite happy about it.

They've complained over and over to the police about the noisy neighbors. Harassing telephone calls at all hours, awakening the drunks and threatening all sorts of physical violence just because the Glee Club is practicing "Roll Me Over In The Clover." People yelling about the friendly little wrasslin' matches which end in good comradeship and only a few broken bones and rarely any blood to speak of. And the Legion deals with those who might get so excited as to shoot out the lights or something -- everyone have to check ALL of their guns at the door and have had to do so for more'n ten years now, ever since that unfortunate incident where Clean Ike thought that Dirty Ike was wearing his (Clean's) hat and shot it off his (Dirty's) head only to find that he (Clean) was looking at his reflection in the mirror behind the bar and the ricchet off the mirror danged near put a bullet hole in the Memorial Portrait Of Naked Nellie, Man's Best Friend And A Pal To Women Too.

Anyway, the Legion has sent a thank-you note to the Chief of Police and has asked that the near-daily processions with torches and pitchforks by the neighbors be stopped because the carrying of nooses is severly disturbing to several of the Legion members, reminding them of Certain Things they'd rather forget.

We'll see.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 10:23 AM

The police are putting a substation in an old store just a couple blocks from the Legion Hovel.

I presume that means the Legion Hovel sits somewhere on the banks of the American Falls Reservoir? I mean, it'd be heard to establish a substation anywhere else in southern Idaho. Even small submarines need thirty or so feet of water to be able to submerge. What good is a submarine as a police surveillance tool if it's right out in the open, floating on the surface of some little creek somewhere?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 10:29 AM

Now, BeeDub, that's not what he meant. It's more like ... well... a substation is like a real station, see, only for subhumans.

It's all in the context.

I do love hearing about them Legionairres, though. They remind of the days when the West was pre-adolescent, when a man was a man... and a man on a horse was ...a man, but on a horse.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 10:57 AM

The substation is right near the power plant and its adjoining outlet mall.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 11:53 AM

The local police operate a search and rescue submarine on the mighty Portneuf River, so that when steamboat passengers fall overboard their bodies can usually be found and returned mostly intact to their next of kin, if any.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 11:56 AM

So the Substation is the sandwich shop in the outlet mall? I thought there was already a Subway there. Must be a pretty busy outlet mall to be able to support two sub shops.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 01:03 PM

Found a picture of that Portneuf River rescue sub. Pretty impressive piece of equipment. CLICK!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 03:07 PM

Everything is current in that outlet mall, that's all I can say.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 04:04 PM

Bee-Dubya, that's the old one. Here's the new one -- surplus property, of course, but they've fixed it up pretty well and it runs fine most of the time, even when it's submerged.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 04:34 PM

"Construction was funded by the Irish Fenian Brotherhood's Skirmishing Fund"

Ain't that just like those Irish?   Never had a navy, but don't let that stop 'em from building a sub to go skirmishin' in.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 10:02 PM

Speaking of skirmishing, the Legion had a bit of a set-to with one of the cops this evening. Young rookie cop, he was. Seemed like he didn't care for Morris' riding goat, Li'l Trigger, being tied to the usual lamppost outside the Hovel. His Sergeant, Eileen O'Ruin (her real name), told him not to mess with it, but Rookie Boy said that tying a goat to a city lamppost was in violation of Ordinance 34-782(a)1, which reads, "Except in case of riot, rebellion, or insurrection, thou shalt not tie thy goat to a city-owned lamppost."

Rookie Boy charged into the Hovel demanding to know who owned the goat with the saddle that was tied to a city-owned lamppost outside. Everybody looked at Morris, of course, and Morris owned up that it was his goat.

Then he stood up. All six feet, eight and one-sixteenth inches of him. And because NOBODY says bad things about Li'l Trigger, Morris was upset. You could tell by the way he ate his (full) beer mug, burped, and broke the logging chain he uses for a belt.

Rookie Boy demonstrated how quick thinking he was. He said, "Well, that's just one FINE lookin' goat, that's all I have to say!" and left so fast that his shadow took ten minutes to catch up with him.

In the doorway stood Sergeant O'Ruin, laughing fit to die. She walked over, patted her husband on the butt, and said, "Morris, you take Li'l Trigger home -- let him ride, ya hear, 'cause he IS a riding goat. We'll get this rookie shaped up yet. If we ever find him, that is. And dear -- pull your pants up!"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 01:17 PM

It's so hard to find good help any more. But, Morris has always been a bit intimidating to those who don't know him.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 01:45 PM

Of course they had a navy. It visited them a long time ago--called the Spanish Armada.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 05:42 PM

The hypothesis that the Spanish Armada either became or was, originally, the Irish Navy is most perplexing, Stilly. How do you justify this?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 05:58 PM

Hate ta bust yer bubble....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 07:10 PM

Doesn't look like the Spanish Armada to me, still....

Did ya know Katy Didd was a folkie?

"Night-time in a tropical rainforest, and lonely male Arachnoscelis katydids make their presence known with a burst of intense sound. You won't hear it, though, because they produce the highest-frequency ultrasound of any known insect.

Members of the cricket and grasshopper family are famous for their ability to sing, and most emit chirps at frequencies humans can hear. Some katydids produce ultrasonic chirps by rubbing their forewings together, pushing a scraper on one wing across a series of pegs on the other. This won't do for Arachnoscelis species, though. Fernando Montealegre-Z and Glenn Morris from the University of Toronto in Canada discovered that they chirp at 130 kilohertz, which is too high a frequency to be generated by merely rubbing the wings together.

The researchers collected the katydids from the Colombian rainforest, and as well as measuring their chirps they looked at their wings with an electron microscope. This revealed that as the wings rub against each other, the scraper wedges itself behind one of the pegs and distorts. When released, it springs back into shape, emitting a pulse of ultrasound (Journal of Experimental Biology, vol 209, p 4923).

"By using elastic energy, the animal saves metabolic energy, as the muscles do not contract at an almost impossible speed," says Montealegre-Z."

There ya go!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 08:43 PM

Now hold on a danged minute! Them Irish folks musta just bought those boats last week. Heck, they haven't even finished fittin' 'em out fer military use! I can still see the deep sea fishing outriggers on a couple of 'em and the one in the middle has a big ol' Igloo fish box bolted to the deck. And I know for a fact I saw the top left one ridin' on a salvage barge in Mobile Bay after Hurricane Ivan.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 08:58 PM

Well, Bee-Dub, ya know what they always say....


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