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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Rapparee 05 Mar 11 - 09:53 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Mar 11 - 09:53 PM

I notice that Amos copped 39900....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Mar 11 - 11:28 PM

Actually 39901 after Eiseley....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Mar 11 - 01:29 AM

Any reasonable theory of quantum gravity will allow closed universes to branch off from our nearly flat region of spacetime. I describe the possible quantum states of these closed universes. They correspond to wormholes which connect two asymptotically Euclidean regions, or two parts of the same asymptotically Euclidean region. I calculate the influence of these wormholes on ordinary quantum fields at low energies in the asymptotic region. This can be represented by adding effective interactions in flat spacetime which create or annihilate closed universes containing certain numbers of particles.

The effective interactions are small except for closed universes containing scalar particles in the spatially homogeneous mode. If these scalar interactions are not reduced by sypersymmetry, it may be that any scalar particles we observe would have to be bound states of particles of higher spin, such as the pion.

An observer in the asymptotically flat region would not be able to measure the quantum state of closed universes that branched off. He would therefore have to sum over all possibilities for the closed universes. This would mean that the final state would appear to be a mixed quantum state, rather than a pure quantum state.

© 1988 The American Physical Society
URL:
http://link.aps.org/doi/10.1103/PhysRevD.37.904


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Mar 11 - 01:34 AM

They're trying hard to catch our tails, Mom, but if you're not the lead dog, the view will never change, and I think we have a head start on'em...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Mar 11 - 08:49 AM

...the influence of these wormholes on ordinary quantum fields at low energies in the asymptotic region...

But he doesn't take into consideration the influence of wormholes on EXTRAordinary quantum fields or ordinary quantum fields at high energies. Or either in a symptotic region.

Not only is it bad science to ignore these things, you can reduce the self-esteem of quantum fields by calling them "ordinary" or "low energy." Quantum fields, wormholes, and closed universes have feelings too, you know. And to call an entire universe "asymptotic" is really insulting and degrading. I can't imagine why the peer jury even let this article be published.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Mar 11 - 12:13 PM

Today's random excerpt from the memetic maelstrom of meandering maroons:

"At once frivolous and freighted with cultural symbolism, the plastic duck makes a perfect subject for a writer of Hohn’s ambition. “What misanthrope, what damp, drizzly November of a sourpuss, upon beholding a rubber duck afloat, does not feel a Crayola ray of sunshine brightening his gloomy heart?” he asks. But both the birth and the afterlife of the duck, Hohn soon learns, are toxic. Adrift on the ocean, the toys can become coated with “persistent organic pollutants” like polyvinyl chloride, bisphenol A and phthalates. Photodegraded into smaller pieces, they can be fatally ingested by sea creatures and will endure, in swirling gyres, for years. "

(From a NYT review of a new book, "Moby Duck", concerning a container of plastic bath-toy ducks lost overboard in the Pacific... Cui bonum??)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Mar 11 - 12:23 PM

What we owe to jellyfish (aside from ancestor-worship):

"In 1925 Evelyn Waugh burned his unpublished first novel, “The Temple at Thatch,” and attempted to drown himself in the sea after a friend gave it a bad review. (Stung by jellyfish, Waugh soon returned to shore.) "


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Mar 11 - 12:34 PM

There's a smallish town called Coldwater near here. It is commonly said to be the home of someone named "Dick Shrivels, from Coldwater"...but I digress. At any rate, Coldwater has a festival once a year when they release thousands of little plastic yellow duckies into the river that flows through town. Hundreds (thousands?) of people congregate to watch the duckies float down the river and you can buy tickets or something, as all the duckies are numbered, and if your duckie crosses the finish line first, you win a prize. I don't know what the prize is. The chances of your duckie winning are almost infinitesimal, so this encourages people to buy many tickets. I think. I've never bought a ticket, but I did see the duckies released one time, and it was quite something to witness. They covered the river in a merrily bobbing carpet of yellow. I have heard that one of those plastic duckies somehow made it all the way to China, having eluded the people who gather them up, gone all the way down the river to the Great Lakes, thence out the Saint Lawrence to the Atlantic, around Cape Horn, across the Pacific, finally making landfall several years later in China. That's perservance!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 06 Mar 11 - 01:27 PM

Give that duck a quacker.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Mar 11 - 03:36 PM

They do a similar "gig a frog" event in the Trinity River in Fort Worth at the Mayfest in Trinity Park in downtown. At least they used to. I'll have to check on that.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 06 Mar 11 - 10:45 PM

One year ago today I made my first sally onto the field known as MOM. Much has happened since then, and I've found good friends and have collected some wonderful memories. Here's to much more of the same!

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Mar 11 - 12:09 AM

I am in Quincy, Illinois, home of the Quincy Gems...wait, the Three-I League went out of business years ago. Home of...ah...David Baldwin, the balloonist! Yeah! Not even people here remember him.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 07 Mar 11 - 01:22 AM

What a difference a year makes, to be sure!

I'm dropping in before heading to bed, just doing my part to push MOM to greater heights.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Mar 11 - 10:03 AM

BUT the town did take in the Mormons fleeing from persecution in Missouri a few years ago, and it is the birthplace of many important people, including Paul Tibbets and...ah...well...me.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 07 Mar 11 - 10:33 AM

My ancestors thank your ancestors.

Did you bring that bottle from your mantel to send Ted off with, Rap? Please do as much laughing as possible.

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 07 Mar 11 - 07:46 PM

THree ninety-nine and twenty
Our back trail dark had stained
With only eighty more to go
Through wind, and ice, and pain.

The dogs were thin, and working slow
Their eyes rolled bloody white
And we'd lost all sight of Rapparee
Gone ahead in that frozen night.

Our hearts were failing in the cold
And the icy went bit deep
But a power moved us to mush on
For the vow we had to keep.

So we plunged along that pitch-black trail
Toward the frozen edge of day
And the thrumming thought in all our minds
Was "MUSH!!! For the next of Kay!"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 07 Mar 11 - 08:14 PM

NEW MUSIC TERMS AND DEFINITIONS

ALLREGRETTO: When you're 16 measures into the piece and realize you took too fast a tempo

ANGUS DEI: To play with a divinely beefy tone

A PATELLA: Accompanied by knee-slapping

APPOLOGGIATURA: A composition that you regret playing

APPROXIMATURA: A series of notes not intended by the composer, yet played with an "I meant to do that" attitude

APPROXIMENTO: A musical entrance that is somewhere in the vicinity of the correct pitch

CACOPHANY: A composition incorporating many people with chest colds

CORAL SYMPHONY: A large, multi-movement work from Beethoven's Caribbean Period

DILL PICCOLINI: An exceedingly small wind instrument that plays only sour notes

FERMANTRA: A note held over and over and over and over and . . .

FERMOOTA: A note of dubious value held for indefinite length

FIDDLER CRABS: Grumpy string players

FLUTE FLIES: Those tiny mosquitoes that bother musicians on outdoor gigs

FRUGALHORN: A sensible and inexpensive brass instrument

GAUL BLATTER: A French horn player

GREGORIAN CHAMP: The title bestowed upon the monk who can hold a note the longest

GROUND HOG: Someone who takes control of the repeated bass line and won't let anyone else play it

PLACEBO DOMINGO: A faux tenor

SCHMALZANDO: A sudden burst of music from the Guy Lombardo band

THE RIGHT OF STRINGS: Manifesto of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Violists

SPRITZICATO: An indication to string instruments to produce a bright and bubbly sound

TEMPO TANTRUM: What an elementary school orchestra is having when it's not following the conductor

TROUBLE CLEF: Any clef one can't read: e.g., alto clef for pianists

VESUVIOSO: An indication to build up to a fiery conclusion

VIBRATTO: Child prodigy son of the concertmaster


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Mar 11 - 09:40 PM

Obituary....

Seven rooms have been reserved here for the contingent from Chicago alone....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 07 Mar 11 - 10:15 PM

Where's these gems come from, Amos?

ALLREGRETTO: When you're 16 measures into the piece and realize you took too fast a tempo

This kind of humor provided the clue to me that something was wrong at my Dad's house. I'd send him the same kind of thing yet didn't hear back via email about it. The neigbor calling to say he had passed away was more news than I was prepared for, but I was at the point of trying to track him down.

Thanks for the obit, Mike.

I've been running tests on the next door neighbor's computer. A nine-year-old Dell, on its last legs. The blue screen of death has appeared many times in recent days, and it is now undergoing the slow but meaningful rite of passage called chkdsk.

We shall have some new by morning, I'm sure.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 07 Mar 11 - 11:08 PM

Very nice obituary, Mike. Thank you for sharing.

Amos, those are wonderful definitions! I'm going to send them on to my dad right now.

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 12:47 AM

Your brother Ted was born very near to when I was, Rapparee. About a month apart.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 12:55 AM

I found those musical notations going back at least three years in a search, but they're new to me!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 11:22 AM

He also flew 1,385.4 air combat hours. The obituary doesn't tell half of it.... I'll post one or two of his adventures when I get home, in the very brief period before I have to take off for DC.

As Tom Paxton wrote,

"I've been traveling most of my life
And the thrill is a long time gone...."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 11:41 AM

How do you walk away from .4 of a combat mission?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 03:22 PM

Time, Amos. 0.4 x 60 minutes = 24 minutes. That's the amount of time necessary to clean up the seats after a missile misses your plane.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 03:46 PM

Ah, so. Solly.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 04:50 PM

Alas. Fate has just ruled out the possibility of my going to visit Stilly with my son or sons so I can walk through graduation. No, I haven't received word that I flunked my exams, but I did just finish talking with the city water works and the plumber, then wringing my hands after finding out that I have a water leak somewhere between the main and my house. I have to get a whole new water hook-up through the concrete, the embankment, under the maple tree, and through the foundation in two places. That necessary but unwelcome bit of repair will cost me all my savings, drabbit it! So, instead of a nice trip to visit Stilly River Sage, I'll be able to go down the basement and look at my new shut-off valve. OUCH!

My only consolation is that they may use one of Amos's inventions to pinpoint the leak.

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 06:49 PM

Oh, grim reality, cruel reality, unfeeling, dullwitted, harsh abrasive and abusive reality, why is it you get to be called "reality" instead of all the nice stuff???


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 10:47 PM

Well, crap.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 08 Mar 11 - 10:57 PM

Murphy has a law about this, I am sure. I've been hijacked by the plumbing trade a few times also.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 01:25 AM

The only real answer is to go and live in a teepee or a grass hut and give up on modern plumbing entirely.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 03:53 AM

You are being a bit liberal in your use of the word "real", there, Hawkster!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 07:57 AM

I know a guy called "Crazy Coyote" who spent three years living in a teepee outside of Soda Springs. Eiseley know him too, I think.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 10:24 AM

Would he loan her his teepee? (I started to ask a different question, but in the plumbing context it came out too creepy, by association.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 10:32 AM

Some folks think TP is the solution to every plumbing problem. But it isn't.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 10:59 AM

I'd rather live in a yurt, actually, like this one I stayed in a couple of weeks ago.

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 01:41 PM

"... a water leak somewhere between the main and my house."

Details please. The most LIKELY spot for the leak is at the valve just before your property line. Such would be the responsibility of the local government.

Of course, you also said "... under the maple tree..." soooo, that's the second most likely spot. Hmmm... is it YOUR maple tree? If so, do you have a wood burning appliance? You can always borrow a chainsaw.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 02:44 PM

If the line was broken by the tree roots it's likely the city's problem since the tree is on their easement. In fact, if your basement is flooded and the break in outside of the property line, well, the city carries insurance.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Eiseley
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 04:53 PM

Thank goodness for moles---the equipment that has a pencil-shaped rod that bangs its way through soil and rocks and pretty much anything in its way. There is now a slick blue pipe running from the water main, up under the embankment, through the foundation in two places, and it will soon be connected to the old pipe with a crimp and a prayer. The whole process was painful on the pocketbook, but fairly smooth otherwise. Hey, it's only money.

The break was somewhere along the 90-year-old pipe, probably somewhere under the front yard. The guys couldn't really tell. But it was obviously not on the city's property. I'll try to post some photos if I can figure out how Amos did it with his front door pictures. The maple tree is still intact.

Right now I'm more interested in how Ted's funeral went.

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 06:41 PM

I had a short conversation with Mr Shatner today. I'm afraid I have bad news. There is almost no chance that he will show up here to post the 40,000th post.

It's tough, but we're just going to have to tighten our belts and get through it somehow without him.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 07:55 PM

New blue pipe... if it replACES COPPER, MAKE SURE YOUR ELECTRICAL SYSTEM IS PROPERLY GROUNDED.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 08:05 PM

The best way to ground something is to get William Shatner to sit on it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Eiseley
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 09:24 PM

Thank you, gnu. Yes, the electrical system is grounded to the old pipe that is still sticking through the foundation and deep, deep into the soil. It would be shocking if it weren't.

Eiseley


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 10:51 PM

It was a raw Spring day, windy and damp without the warmth promised by the ambient temperature. We left the funeral home in procession to the church. A Requiem Mass was read and at the end the white pall replaced by the American flag. We processed to the cemetery, where my brother lies between the graves of my parents and maternal grandparents. Another set of spiritual reading and prayers, and then two officers in dress blues (one a woman) folded the flag and presented it to Teri, Ted's widow. The Honor Guard fired three volleys and "Taps" was played; the bugler turned out to be an old sort-of friend.

Afterward we went to the community room at the parish school we had all attended for a lunch, and the Catholics can out-Jello the Mormons any day. I had two helping of what I thought was gelatinous space alien brain matter but which turned out to be blue Jello with blueberries. Too much sugar! Also industrial sized pans of tuna-noodle casserole, since this is Ash Wednesday and a day of fast and abstinence, one of only a few remaining, and which everyone except the church ladies had forgotten.

And that's the story of the funeral, Eiseley. We'll be back in Idaho this coming Sunday evening, and leave for DC for a week the following Wednesday or Thursday. "...the thrill is a long time gone...."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 09 Mar 11 - 10:59 PM

Mom!!!

"Beyond the Cascade"   has just received a rave review by one of its development reviewers, an Oscar winning film director.   He writes, simply,

"YOU DID IT!!!!
You freakin' did it!"

Which after some fifteen years of writing, re-writing and editing, is consummate acknowledgment. Big win for the day.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 12:45 AM

Is that Max's film? I was reading about it today on his About.me page (I'm thinking about setting one up, if Max finds it was helpful).

Mike, funerals are entities to themselves. You'll be processing the information and will sort out your brother from the ceremony in the coming months and years. And, as the Internet is saying these days, it gets better. Easier, at any rate.

I have two Bette/ys in my life these days, and they both have had computer problems this week. I spent several hours next door before pronouncing her 2002 Dell almost-dead; it clearly has computer Alzheimer's. The mother board or the hard drive - and neither is worth the trouble. Either the expense of a mother board or the trouble of reistalling antique software on a new hard drive. I'll go with her Friday to look at new computers (I am recommending that she get an HP all-in-one this time. It doesn't have the bulk of the desktop but it is a lot faster than the laptop and she isn't interested in taking it anywhere). My other Bette is long distance, near Tucson, and she was on the floor unplugging the data plug from her old desktop in order to plug it into and then restart her laptop. All of this time she's been playing solitaire on her laptop because she didn't know how to plug it in. [knocks forehead on desk] She's 77, she needed some help. I wish I'd called weeks earlier.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 12:55 AM

Amos, is "Beyond the Cascade" a music CD you have done?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 10:00 AM

No, it's an op-ed piece in "Physics Today."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 10:01 AM

No, it's a novel. I announced I was leaving Mudcat to complete it in 2000, I think it was, but I failed to leave, so it took another ten years to write, rewrite and rewrite.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 12:48 PM

Oh, I see. Well, congratulations. I do hope you haven't included any libelous innuendo about Chongo in that novel.


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