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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Acme 01 Mar 07 - 10:36 AM
Rapparee 01 Mar 07 - 08:44 AM
Bunnahabhain 01 Mar 07 - 07:46 AM
Amos 28 Feb 07 - 09:27 PM
Rapparee 28 Feb 07 - 09:14 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 28 Feb 07 - 08:50 PM
Little Hawk 28 Feb 07 - 07:36 PM
MMario 28 Feb 07 - 07:26 PM
Rapparee 28 Feb 07 - 06:36 PM
Rapparee 28 Feb 07 - 06:15 PM
GUEST,Erwin Schrödinger 28 Feb 07 - 05:31 PM
Little Hawk 28 Feb 07 - 05:19 PM
Amos 28 Feb 07 - 04:32 PM
Acme 28 Feb 07 - 04:24 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 10:36 AM

Just think of the poor sods who are Googling the Internet looking for good eggplant recipies. Welcome to Mudcat!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 08:44 AM

"Wulf" is Eldritch Anglo-Saxon for "aubergine" and "Beo-" is a prefix which means "brave, courageous, foolish." You will find this information on the website of the Idaho Legion in the "Surprising Unbelievable Stuff You Just Won't Believe But That We Think Is Probably True" section. (While there you can also find a list of the beers and liquors served at the Hovel. It's in PDF so you'll have to download it, but be aware that on a OCD-12 line it take hours, so if you don't have at least that speed don't try it. If you;'re on dial-up don't even think about it.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 07:46 AM

I'm thinking Middle Saxons of Beowulf's time would not use Aubergines much, give the plant appears to originate in India.

Now of course, Saxony leads the world in the conspicuous consumption of them, and various small towns hold annual aubergine festivals, where giant aubergines run down the narrow, cobbled streets, and are pelted with bulls from the first floor windows of the buildings overlooking the run. This only happens after the ends of last years fermented aubergine fire-water, now rich in unfortunate flavours and mild hallucinogens has been drunk....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 09:27 PM

MM:

Act V. Scene I. The Life of King Henry the Fifth

by Will Rapaire, Avon-on-Turkey, Essex, UK


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 09:14 PM

LH, a few years back I wrote this.

It's a pretty epic epic about aubergines.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 08:50 PM

Scientists can look at things
So tiny that they can't be seen
By using specialized devices
That magnify a billion sizes

Yet there's one thing that is so small
It really can't be seen at all
And that's the difference between
An eggplant and an aubergine

(Ogden Nash, eat your heart out!)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 07:36 PM

Good Lord, Rapaire! You must have even more time on your idle hands than I do to write such heroic stuff!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 07:26 PM

That one was straight out of l-space, wasn't it?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 06:36 PM

GOWER

    Nay, that's right; but why wear you your aubergine today?
    Saint Dymphna's day is past.

FLUELLEN

    There is occasions and causes why and wherefore in
    all things: I will tell you, asse my friend,
    Captain Gower: the rascally, scald, beggarly,
    lousy, pragging knave, Pistol, which you and
    yourself and all the world know to be no petter
    than a fellow, look you now, of no merits, he is
    come to me and prings me pread and salt yesterday,
    look you, and bid me eat my aubergine: it was in place
    where I could not breed no contention with him; but
    I will be so bold as to wear it in my cap till I see
    him once again, and then I will tell him a little
    piece of my desires.

    Enter PISTOL

GOWER

    Why, here he comes, swelling like a turkey-cock.

FLUELLEN

    'Tis no matter for his swellings nor his
    turkey-cocks. God pless you, Aunchient Pistol! you
    scurvy, lousy knave, God pless you!

PISTOL

    Ha! art thou bedlam? dost thou thirst, base Trojan,
    To have me fold up Parca's fatal web?
    Hence! I am qualmish at the smell of aubergine.

FLUELLEN

    I peseech you heartily, scurvy, lousy knave, at my
    desires, and my requests, and my petitions, to eat,
    look you, this aubergine: because, look you, you do not
    love it, nor your affections and your appetites and
    your digestions doo's not agree with it, I would
    desire you to eat it.

PISTOL

    Not for Cadwallader and all his goats.

FLUELLEN

    There is one goat for you.

    Strikes him
    Will you be so good, scauld knave, as eat it?

PISTOL

    Base Trojan, thou shalt die.

FLUELLEN

    You say very true, scauld knave, when God's will is:
    I will desire you to live in the mean time, and eat
    your victuals: come, there is sauce for it.

    Strikes him
    You called me yesterday mountain-squire; but I will
    make you to-day a squire of low degree. I pray you,
    fall to: if you can mock an aubergine, you can eat an aubergine.

GOWER

    Enough, captain: you have astonished him.

FLUELLEN

    I say, I will make him eat some part of my aubergine, or
    I will peat his pate four days. Bite, I pray you; it
    is good for your green wound and your ploody coxcomb.

PISTOL

    Must I bite?

FLUELLEN

    Yes, certainly, and out of doubt and out of question
    too, and ambiguities.

PISTOL

    By this aubergine, I will most horribly revenge: I eat
    and eat, I swear--

FLUELLEN

    Eat, I pray you: will you have some more sauce to
    your aubergine? there is not enough aubergine to swear by.

PISTOL

    Quiet thy cudgel; thou dost see I eat.

FLUELLEN

    Much good do you, scauld knave, heartily. Nay, pray
    you, throw none away; the skin is good for your
    broken coxcomb. When you take occasions to see aubergines
    hereafter, I pray you, mock at 'em; that is all.


                   --- William Shakespeare,The Tragical
                         History of Fluellen, Prince of
                         Llanfairpwll
(Merthyr Tydfil:
                         The University Press, 1606)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 06:15 PM

Or a sauerkraut. My grandma used to grow sauerkrauts in the garden.



Stunk up the whole danged neighborhood, too.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Erwin Schrödinger
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 05:31 PM

Zince it vas a reference to my verk that shtarted this aubergine thing, I thought it proper of me to set the record shtraight. I deshpise aubergines! If I vanted to replace the cat in my ekshperiment mit a fegetable, it vud be a good Austrian fegetable like a cabbage.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 05:19 PM

"An Aubergine! An Aubergine! My kingdom for an Aubergine!!!"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 04:32 PM

Now is the winter of our discontent
Made colder more by hordes of aubergines;
This son of northern squawking comes,
Borrowing craft and leaving them careened
Up on the wintry shores of replication dry.
How shall we answer, when they ask us, "Why?"
Shall we explain his sticky-minded ways?
Or how we let him, through this thread's long wending,
Repeat his wicked petty stealing, days upon days,
Hoping he would himself to it bring ending.
Nay, say 'tis not so -- this violent schism
Between the best and all the hurried worst,
Cannot be raised to speak for plagiarism,
Nor answer Mother's deep creative thirst!
Tell him, good friends, "Go to!"
Scorn him as any footpad, harlot,
Or power hungry rogue, who, deep, untrue,
And vile, shall make us all a varlet.

William Bumpster Nuance
Calls to Arms and other Body Parts
Fanta Se Publications and Californication Press
Santa Fe, New Mexico 2005


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 04:24 PM

MacDuff: He has no children. All my pretty ones?
Did you say all? O hell-kite! All?
What, all my pretty chickens and aubergines and their dam
At one fell swoop?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 04:02 PM

Macbeth shall never vanquish'd be until
Great aubergine to his high gorge
Shall come against him.


               --Macbeth, Act 4, Scene 1 (The "Director's Cut")


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: gnu
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 03:56 PM

Wow! This is a big thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 03:50 PM

Our dinners now are ended. These our aubergines,
As I foretold you, were all eaten and
Are melted into oil, into olive oil:
And, like the breaded fabric of this eggplant,
The breaded slices, the oil-soaked cutlets,
The solemn casseroles, the great parmesan itself,
Yea, all which it ingested, shall dissolve
And, like this too-substantial dinner faded,
Leave not an ort behind. We are such stuff
As aubergines are made of, and our little lunch
Is rounded with a burp.

                  -- S. P. D. Al-Kaselzar, The Temptress


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 01:34 PM

The aubergine of mercy is not strain'd,
It ploppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the plate beneath: it is twice cooked;
It blesseth him that cooks and him that eats:
'Tis tastiest in the tastiest: it surfiets
The throned monarch better than roast beast;
His fork may show the force of temporal power,
The attribute to awe and majesty,
Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings;
But aubergines are above this sceptred sway;
It is enthroned in the stomachs of kings,
It is an attribute to God himself;
And earthly power doth then show likest God's
When aubergines are seasoned thusly.


recipe fragment - attributed to Anne Hathaway. circa 1600


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 01:12 PM

Once upon a midnight dreary, as I was tossing, weak and weary,
From many a dish of quaint and curious cuisine,
While I nodded, nearly furling, suddenly there came a hurling,
As of some one violently vomiting, vomiting upon my chamber floor.
'Tis the aubergine,' I muttered, `now spattered upon my chamber floor      
Only this, and nothing more.'

Ah, distinctly I remember it was in the bleak December,
And each separate dying ember wrought its ghost upon the floor.
Eagerly I wished the morrow; - vainly I had sought some surcease,
For my stomach surcease of sorrow - sorrow for my chamber floor -
For the rare and radiant cleanliness with which it had shone before
Fouled now for evermore.

                         -- Allen Edgar O'Mulcahy, The Hurling
                            (Boston: Little Children's Home
                              Companion, April 16, 1843.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 10:31 AM

It *is* Schrodinger's Aubergine.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 10:27 AM

Perhaps that explains its presence here then.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 10:24 AM

As I proceeded down the stairs
an aubergine just wasn't there
it wasn't there again today
How I wish it would go away!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 10:17 AM

I think that I have never seen
A sight so grand as an aubergine
Reposing gladsome on the sward
Or placed supine on a cutting board
Its glossy skin, its purple flanks
Reflect the lights in my fish tanks
As there it sits too shy to speak
Its grace inherent and so unique
Shall I this unspoiled flesh devour?
Or shall I sit there hour by hour
Entranced by beauty so divine
Ah! Aubergine...wilt thou be mine?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 10:10 AM

I must be strong, I'm determined I shan't,

Start to write verse about an Egg Plant.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 10:05 AM

Aubrgines, white, green or pink
or mottled colours brightly streaked
are far more common then one would think
outside the USA.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 09:58 AM

Aubergine, aubergine,
Prettiest vegetable I've ever seen
It's blackish purple instead of green
Aubergine, my aubergine


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 09:49 AM

Another buried freezer?

Amos, you needed another syllable in the last line of that purple poetry of yours.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 09:43 AM

mold, mildew, and a mint condition 1901 Sears catalog?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 09:27 AM

A wrinkled old aubergine?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 09:22 AM

We're having the basement bathroom kinda re-done and you'll never GUESS what we found (besides old soap scum)!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 02:31 AM

Aubergine, aubergine,
FInest fruit I've ever seen,
Allah knows, there's nothin' mean
About an aubergine....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 11:44 PM

It would be far simpler to forget about finding words that rhyme with "oink" and have your pig go "grunt" instead. There are a fair number of rhymes for "grunt". Better yet, forget the pig and write about a cow. There are hundreds of words that rhyme with "moo".


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 07:44 PM

Maybe Miss Doink should relocate to Cern, also. Possibly a Large Hardon Collider is exactly what she needs for what ails her.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 07:42 PM

Nor are the mysteries of feminine unpredictability the only thing being laid bare by science this week. Observe!


STRING THEORY EXPLAINS RHIC JET SUPPRESSION. String theory argues
that all matter is composed of string-like shreds in a
10-dimensional hyperspace assembled in various forms. It has won
acclaim from many who appreciate the theory?s elegant mathematics
and ambition to unite quantum mechanics and general relativity, and
skepticism from others who cite the theory?s lack of a practical
track record. String theory, the doubters say, makes no testable
predictions.

But this isn?t exactly true. Indeed, the theory has not yet been
experimentally vindicated in the realm of quantum gravity, but has
been put into play in the realm of high-energy ion collisions, the
kind carried out at Brookhaven?s Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider
(RHIC). A few years ago string practitioners attempted to establish
a relationship between the 10-dimensional string world and the
4-dimensional (3 spatial dimensions plus time) world in which we
observe interactions among quark-filled particles like protons (for
background, see Physics Today, May 2005).

This duality between
string theory and the theory of the strong nuclear force, quantum
chromodynamics (QCD), was recently used to interpret puzzling early
results from RHIC, namely the suppression of energetic quark jets
that should have emerged from the fireball formed when two heavy
nuclei (such as gold) collide head on. The thinking was that
perhaps the plasma of quarks and gluons (quarks bursting free from
their customary proton and meson groupings) wasn?t a gas of weakly
interacting particles (as was originally thought) but a gas of
strongly interacting particles, so strong that any energetic quarks
that might have escaped the fireball (initiating a secondary
avalanche, or jet, or quarks) would quickly be slowed and stripped
of energy on its way through the tumultuous quark-gluon plasma (QGP)
environment.

Two new papers by Hong Liu and Krishna Rajagopal of (MIT) and Urs
Wiedemann (CERN) address this problem. The first paper calculates a
specific quark-suppression parameter (namely, how much the quarks,
each attached to a string dangling "downward" into a fifth
dimension, are pushed around as they traverse the quark-gluon
plasma) that agrees closely with the experimentally observed value.
Rajagopal (krishna@ctp.mit.edu, 617-253-6202) says that in the
second paper, the same authors make a specific testable prediction
using string theory that bears not just on missing jets of energetic
light quarks (up, down, and strange quarks), but on the melting or
dissociation temperatures of bound states of heavy quarks
(charm-anticharm or bottom-antibottom pairs) moving through the
quark-gluon plasma with sufficiently high velocity, as will be
produced in future experiments at RHIC and the Large Hadron Collider
(LHC) under construction at CERN.


I CAN'T WAIT!!



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 07:32 PM

Aha!! I knew it!!!!!

SPONTANEOUS SYMMETRY BREAKING IN WOMENS? GENES. A spontaneous
aggregation of proteins randomly determines which of the two X
chromosomes in a woman's cell will remain active, and which one will
stay silenced, according to a new physical model. In all placental
mammals, the females of the species have two versions of the X
chromosomes while males have just one X, plus a Y chromosome. To
avoid overexpression of X-chromosome genes, female cells must
virtually shut down one of their X's. X chromosomes are able to
wrap themselves up in a goo of RNA -- produced by one of their
genes, called XIST -- inhibiting the expression of all of their
genes. But until recently, it was not known how a female's cells
know that they have two X's, how they choose which one to shut down,
or how they keep exactly one active. Experiments in mice -- the
results presumably apply to other mammals -- have shown that during
early development, each embryo cell has a 50-50 chance of shutting
down one X or the other. Recently it has been proposed that an X
remains active when certain proteins aggregate at a specific spot on
the chromosome, shutting down its "suicide gene" XIST. But it
remained unclear why proteins floating in the nucleus would
aggregate around one of the chromosome, but not around the other --
an example of what physicists call spontaneous symmetry breaking.
Now an upcoming paper in Physical Review Letters describes a
statistical-mechanics model for the proteins' aggregation that would
explain this phenomenon. The model relies on a key discovery
published last year, namely that in females the two X chromosomes
line up next to each other right at the time when one of them is due
to be silenced. For a critical value of the protein's binding
energies, the authors show, there is a high probability that exactly
one aggregate will form in the vicinity of the two chromosomes. The
aggregate will quickly bind to one of the X's, shutting down its
XIST gene and thus preventing the chromosome from silencing itself.
The model also explains how cells would "count" their X's. In males,
the protein complex would only have one chromosome to bind to, so it
would save the single X from self-silencing. On non-sexual
chromosomes, a similar mechanism could also determine which of two
versions of certain genes is expressed and which one is silenced.
(Nicodemi and Prisco, to appear in Physical Review Letters; contact
Mario Nicodemi University of Naples "Federico II,
"Mario.Nicodemi@na.infn.it. Also see: Na Xu et al., Science, 24
February 2006, Bacher et al., Nature Cell Biology, March 2006, and
Donohoe et al., Molecular Cell, January 12, 2007.)

I just knew it!!!!

A virgin named young Rita Doink
Felt it past time she learned how to boink
So she sought out a male
Her mound to impale
But it slobbered and lolled, and said "Oink!!"

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 07:30 PM

Have a cold beer instead. Far more sensible...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 05:52 PM

Someone hand me a paper fan, please. I'm having conversational hot flashbacks this afternoon. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 05:36 PM

Aubergine Uber Jeans - made in Germany with denim and kevlar.

toughest jeans ever made.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 05:20 PM

The diminutive of Francis is Froink. So Rita could be related to Froink Doink.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 05:12 PM

We need more words in English that rhyme with the word "oink". Generations of poets have yearned to write passionately about pigs, but have found their efforts frustrated, because the English language does not provide any other legitimate words that rhyme with "oink".

The word "boink" comes up now and then as a sound effect in comic magazines, but that is not enough. "Boink" is not really a legitimate word that you can find in Webster's and it is not terribly useful in most dramatic contexts. No great speech, like the Gettysburg Address or the Sermon on the Mount, for example exists in which the word "boink" appears.

I recently got an email from someone in Europe who told me that I had won a million Euros. Her name was Rita Doink. I was very surprised, both by my good fortune in winning all those Euros, and by the fact that the surname "Doink" exists! My efforts to secure the million Euros have so far resulted in nothing, likewise my efforts to personally speak to Rita or other members of the Doink family. Could it be that "Rita Doink" is an alias? I certainly hope not! If Doink is a legitimate surname then it could open up further possibilities for rhyming with "oink", and that would be excellent.

Does anyone else here want to join with me in petitioning Oxford, Cambridge, and Eaton to officially induct several new worlds into the English language that rhyme with "oink"? I'm thinking maybe...

squoink
groink
calloink
maladroink
and passamodoquoink.

For a start anyway...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 04:53 PM

I told you that I always told the truth. All the Truth that's fit and then some -- that's my motto.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 03:42 PM

Oh, and I takre back everything mean I have ever said about Rapaire, for two reasons. One is that now I can start fresh!! The other is for leading me to such a fine and bluidy tale.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 12:18 PM

Here's the whole story, a brutal one indeed.

Odd how them white boys got off, too. And the amount of gold was rumoured to be up to $55000 by 1890 standards, and that makes them freezers awful valuable fer old Amanas.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 11:58 AM

For example, Chea Yow's body -- shot, beheaded, and its hands cut off -- was found at the place where Lower Granite dam now crosses the Snake.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 11:57 AM

Nope, nope, nope. This tale is Strange, but it's not fiction strange. This is Truth and therefore stranger than fiction.

And if you doubt me, you can check out the facts I've given easily enough.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 10:20 AM

Anyone else see The Honey Pot? Based on Ben Jonson's Valpone.

Where is the oldest cemetery in town?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 09:54 AM

I think they hid the Gold in plain sight, and the secret just got forgotten about over the years, and Rapaire just stumbled across it.

It's hard to go through a detective book of a certain era without the gold having been melted down, copper plated and turned into those old heavy pans that you don't use any more, the sash window weights being the family silver.

Of course, this is easier in places where the written history goes back more than two centuries, but you've got to work with what you have....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 09:27 AM

Now he's toying wid us. I tell ya, he's bluffing. It's a nice bluff, though!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 09:26 AM

I'll bet the big secret is *none* of the treasure is in the buried freezers! Who would have thunk?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 09:24 AM

Now I must digress a bit and bring the second thread, like the tributary of a mighty river, into your view.

It was 1887 and Chea Yow and other Chinese were working poor claims on the Snake River bars in Hell's Canyon -- the claims that paid only $5 or so a day, claims the White Men didn't want. They'd been brought over by the Sam Yup and after they'd made enough money they'd be heading back to China.

Earlier the Nez Perce had been ordered onto a Reservation. The timetable was too short for the Nez Perce to gather all of their cattle and horses, so many were left to run free. These were gathered by groups of roughs locally called "cowboys" and taken from the Oregon side to the Idaho side and sold to undiscriminating buyers.

A group of these "cowboys" apparently decided that it would be easier to rob the Chinese than to run horses and cattle. To make a long story short, "cowboys" including Frank Vaughan, Bruce Evans, Homer La Rue, Robert McMillan, Carl Hughes and H. Maynard shot and very brutally killed at least 23 Chinese and stole about USD 55,000 in gold flour and dust. We know this from a deathbed confession Robert McMillan made to his father in 1891 and other evidence came from the trials at which the defendants were found not guilty.

Many of those involved were eventually tracked down, but Homer LaRue and Frank Vaughan more or less vanished from history. A bottle containing USD 700.00 in gold dust was later found at the site of one of the Chinese camps, but otherwise the bulk of the gold vanished too.

Only it didn't. Homer LaRue and Vaughan took the hidden gold and made their way towards the Land of the Yankee Fork, where gold was being found. On the way, LaRue shot Vaughan in the back of the head and turned his path southeastwards, toward Pocatello Junction. Now wanted for the murder of Vaughan, he changed his name when he got to Pocatello (as the town was now known) and became known as one of the local bad men. He seemed to always have some money, but he wasn't connected with either the "Chinese Massacre" or the murder of Vaughan. For many years he lived in Pocatello, a bully and a drunk.

He fathered a daughter by one of the denizens of the "Walled City," as the Red Light District was known, and he doted on her. Eventually, he sent her East to school and she returned a very beautiful and accomplished young woman and took a position teaching at the Idaho Academy (now Idaho State University).


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