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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Amos 22 Aug 06 - 10:39 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 10:39 PM

As regards KNO3, Wikipedia kindl;y advises that In England, the privilege of manufacturing explosives had been in the hands of the family of John Evelyn, the celebrated diarist, as a crown monopoly since before 1588.

KNO3 is potassium nitrate, made from bat dunk, bird guano, old sewage, or what have you until the process was industrialized by Haber.

I think Rapaire meant C12H22O11 -- table sugar. Or maybe citric acid: C6H8O7. The later melts at 153 °C, the former at 186°C. He might have meant ordinary cellulose (C6H10O5) or perhaps even dronabinol ( C21H30O2).

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 07:50 PM

In Boy Scout Camp we used to sneak M&Ms or broken Wintergreen Life Savers into bottles of Coke and quick give them to someone. Foam all over.

But for rockets we either used rockets made from matches and alumninum foil or made our own solid fuel. Take KNO3 and C6H22O11 and melt it (carefully!) together...well, the least said the better.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 06:15 PM

Nah -- they just make giant spouts of cola into the air for a few minutes and then fizzle out. Tell him not to stand under it unless he wants ants in his clothes....


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 06:14 PM

Well, Mom, I gotta drive north to take supplies to Moonglow. Most of which she can get at Target there in town, but the few things in her closet she wants tip the scale. But I'm going to take her over to the bus map this evening and point at the way to get to Target. Then we'll go out somewhere and eat, probably.

My plans messed up my son's plans to test a rocket made of CocaCola and Mentos--he was going to hang out with friends at his dad's house but I brought him back here. I've heard about those rockets. This isn't going to disrupt Gluon's universe, is it? They'll set them up tomorrow after school down at the elementary school.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 01:32 PM

I heard about his process of writing out his answer in a 400+ page book on the news this morning.

This caught my eye this morning. Interesting. These obits stick around as links for about 4 weeks.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 11:15 AM

Grigory Perelman of St. Petersburg, Russia. The Field Prize. Check it out.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 10:50 AM

Want to see a neat, unretouched, unenhanced, picture?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 10:07 AM

Dats wot youse gets fer bein' on the lam, see? Messin' wit minors is inaPROpriate.

Shoulda stuck to ewes, youse.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 08:54 AM

I'm on the lam, see? I offed Big Piggie George of 'Frisco's Fuscia Gang and both the coppers and Big Piggie's friends want me. Seems like Big Piggie was payin' off the Chief Copper to lay off Big Piggie's Bathhouse when I offed Big Piggie. BP was runnin' a numbers racket outa the Bathhouse and the Chief was usin' the squeezeola to pay off his yacht. Anyway, one day Big Piggie comes onto me and I offed him. One right between the eyes, ya know? And now the cops and BP's friends want me bad, real bad. So I'm hidin' out here in Idaho, layin' low, sayin' nothin', and keepin' my gat closer than I keep a blonde. If Big Piggie's friends catch me it's curtains and if the cops catch me is San Quentin, maybe the gas chamber. And I can't go to prison. I'm too good lookin'.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 22 Aug 06 - 07:29 AM

How do they know Prision is ahead for you? You might not have done anything wrong. I know that's an unlikley prospect round here, but it is theoretically possible...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 09:58 PM

No, in Illinois it gives the prisoners something to do, making those "Prison Ahead -- Do Not Pick Up Hitchhikers" sigsn.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 09:12 PM

Hi Mom!

No, I haven't been in prison. I've been in Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois and Missouri. I saw a lot of prisons. They like to build them within plain view of major highways (like the one in Ina, IL). Maybe they think having highly visible prisons promotes good citizenship. Or maybe the land abutting interstate highways is dirt cheap since nobody really wants to live there.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 07:39 PM

I wouldn't know, Amos. Here in Idaho we're kinda in the technological backwaters. Why, every day when we want to connect to the Internet we have to crank up Maisy and tell her to plug in the modem so we can connect. Helps a lot if we bring her some cookies now and then. Soft ones, 'cause Maisie ain't got a whole lot of teeth.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 06:42 PM

Yeah, life was a lot harder in the old days, before the Internet.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 06:20 PM

Back a few years ago (about forty, actually), Centennial Hall, a women's dorm, had a visitor they called "Centennial Sam." The dorm was built in a U-shape, and ol' Sam would stand in the middle of the U and expose what passed for his masculinity. This was not appreciated by the women in the dorm.

So one night Sam did his thing and the young ladies did theirs. They turned the fire hoses on Sam. His was hit with a drenching of cold water from front and two sides (two hoses per side per floor for a total of twelve streams of water from the sides). It was January. The temperature was -12F.

Sam did not return. His love was not enough to keep him warm.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 05:06 PM

Just so he keeps his paring knife away from the girls' dorm!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 02:33 PM

skean dubh - but that may be granting it a little too much dignity...

skean dubius?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 02:30 PM

Dirk will do. Perhaps paring knife?

The kind that is usually slightly dull and a bit short?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 02:04 PM

My smallsword has a 37 inch blade. No, I was trying to find a polite euphemism for my, well, my bodily part.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 12:27 PM

brandishing your smallsword?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 12:25 PM

I don't own a rapier. A smallsword, yes, and a cavalry saber, and three epees and a saber for sport. But no rapier.

Of course, I have been known to brandish my, ah, well....

Sorry.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 12:04 PM

And once you got into seventh grade you tried to teach all the girls not to. I know your kind, Rapaire -- a rapscallion romancer, a ne'erdowell Casanova, a fly-by-night Don Juan, brandishing your rapier and wowing the chickens with your dazzly razzling. No wonder they shipped you overseas!

I just want you to know it won't work on me.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 08:53 AM

Oh, if only I had known the warm and loving touch of a mother who picked up after me! Our nanny, Gunny Rock, had been a drill instructor in the Marine Corps during WW2 and would scream the most amazing things when we would do something he didn't like. Things like sneezing and talking and failing to get out of bed at 4 a.m. and not knowing how to field-strip the M-1 rifle. We thought that this was a lot for boys 5, 4, and 2 to know and do (or not do), but the push-ups made us strong and finally we beat the crap out of Gunny Rock and he changed. He changed for the meaner and we had to try to beat him up every night after lights out -- individually, not all at once. Because of this I couldn't walk with my legs parallel until I was in the 7th grade.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 21 Aug 06 - 08:09 AM

a mother's optimism never fails!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 11:43 PM

I just moved my young Democrat to college today. What a job! When her brother and I left she and her two roommates were each contemplating moving the furniture, after they got off of their computers testing the network connection. No food service this week, but lots of food offered by organizations recruiting members. I'll pick her up on Tuesday morning so she can come back to town to work a few more days at Dairy Queen.

Her brother and I have already made a raid on her room this evening. He, in search of a Spanish/English dictionary for school. I, in search of her floor. I swept and picked up and then mopped the spots where cats had barfed--ages ago--and the puddles had ossified. One under her bed was hard to reach, hard to scrub off, and looked like something that was barfed then grew mold, but I think in fact it had snagged a big-honker dust kitten.

When she returns home, my daughter will be able to relax in her room and sleep on her own bed (she has been in the guest room for the last 10 days or so). And when she returns home she will pick up after herself. That IS the plan. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 10:20 PM

Oh, of course, all is forgiven, and consider yourself shriven for goodness' sake. After all, you were young, and in Illinois.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 09:31 PM

Amos, all...

I must confess that once, many many years ago, I was, for one single year, a member of the Illinois Young Republicans College Federation.

Yes, I know. But I was oh so young and foolish. I only went to one meeting, and that was only to get someone from our college elected president of the IYRCF. Even the head of the college's Young Democrats went that year. And they made is sound so wonderful, with everyone getting enough to eat and everyone working together and no one being better than anyone else. I didn't know then that they were...you know, Republicans!!!

I've confessed this sin to my priest and he assigned me a penance of three Our Fathers, three Hail Marys, and a stay in Purgatory "until the Sun no longer gives its light and the stars no longer shine." I also have to be scourged through seven churches and make a pilgrimage, on my knees, to the top of Croghpatrick -- starting from Illinois, too.

My sin has been forgiven by God. I hope that everyone here can be as merciful.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 06:51 PM

And

13700

to you!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 06:48 PM

Rapaire:

I think you are what we call a "latent" Republican.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 06:47 PM

Upsy-daisy, Mom. Atta girl!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 20 Aug 06 - 12:07 PM

There's no spelling of Liberay Libarey Librery Library either....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Peace
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 10:10 PM

Dang. Never had a call like that. It's simply too grim to contemplate. Sorry I looked, Rapaire.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 10:07 PM

Nah, we jist cancel the brand by branding a line or an X through it.

But that's not what I wanted to write about. It's a sobering thought how quickly our loved ones can be taken from us. This is a picture of a recent accident in Germany. A friend of mine was there and snapped the picture after performing mouth-to-mouth resusciation on several of the victims. Please, DON'T open this link if you're the least bit squeamish -- believe me, it's not pretty but it is sobering.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 06:44 PM

There's no leaving the Liberay. Once you're in, that's it, for life. You don't want to know what they do to people who return books late....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 04:11 PM

Link


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 03:37 PM

Been a kind of down day, Mom. Pour me a glass of iced tea, please, and I'll just go sit out on the glider on the porch. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 10:12 AM

Why yes, you did but it bears repeating.

Now--if you decide to Leave the Library Stafff -- will the Library pay to have your brand taken offa yer bewtucks surgically?

Cuz other wise yer gonna gradually accumulate people in the region wearing your brand but not by rights b'longing to ye any more, see?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 06:52 PM

Hey there, buckaroos and buckarettes! Did I mention that our library here in the Wild West had applied for its own genuine brand???

Yessir, pardner, we sure 'nuff have. We asked for an MPL connected with a rocker. Gonna put it on the left hip and right shoulder of horses, cattle, and sheep (the ID brand commission "don't do hogs," 'cause I asked). As fer as I know, we'll be the only library in Idaho and mebbe in the whole US of A with its own genuine brand.













Gotta keep track of the staff somehow....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 06:31 PM

The Irish have started the revolution of our century:


"An Irish company threw down the gauntlet on Friday to the worldwide scientific community to test a technology it has developed that it claims produces free energy.

The company, Steorn (http://www.steorn.net), says its discovery is based on the interaction of magnetic fields and allows the production of clean, free and constant energy -- a concept that challenges one of the basic rules of physics.

It claims the technology can be used to supply energy for virtually all devices, from mobile phones to cars.

Steorn issued its challenge through an advertisement in the Economist magazine this week quoting Ireland's Nobel prize-winning author George Bernard Shaw who said that "all great truths begin as blasphemies".

Sean McCarthy, Steorn's chief executive officer, said they had issued the challenge for 12 physicists to rigorously test the technology so it can be developed.

"What we have developed is a way to construct magnetic fields so that when you travel round the magnetic fields, starting and stopping at the same position, you have gained energy," McCarthy said.

"The energy isn't being converted from any other source such as the energy within the magnet. It's literally created. Once the technology operates it provides a constant stream of clean energy," he told Ireland's RTE radio.


McCarthy said Steorn had not set out to develop the technology, but "it actually fell out of another project we were working on". "


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 04:39 PM

The rubbing was given to me by someone who didn't want it anymore. Matted, framed under non-glare glass...shucks, I said to myself, why not? After all, they don't make them anymore (literally).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 02:29 PM

people can have it certified they rub their stones? wierd. Kinky even.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 02:19 PM

The certified stone-rubbing is certainly a proud possession, Good Rapaire. :D

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 01:34 PM

Dugdale got it wrong. I give to you the exact wording and spelling and punctuation, as the certified rubbing (taken M. H. Verney, clerk of Holy Trinity Church, Stratford-Upon-Avon, in 1936). Keep in mind the typographic oddities I mentioned earlier.

GOOD FREND FOR IESUS SAKE FORBEARE,
TO DIGG THE DVST ENCLOASED HEARE
BLESE BE YE MAN YT SPARES THES STONES,
AND CVRST BE HE YT MOVES MY BONES.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 01:21 PM

An essay from a crypto-cryptographer:

..."The exact form of the inscription on Shakespeare's gravestone, which lies flat on the floor in Holy Trinity Church in Stratford, has been the subject of some controversy.

    In 1656 Sir William Dugdale published The Antiquities of Warwickshire ; included was an engraving showing the lettering on the stone as he, or someone in his employ, had recorded it:

Good freind for Iesus sake forbeare
To digg the dust inclosed here
Blest be the man that spares these stones
And curst be he that moues my bones


    The poem itself is a source of embarrassment to most conventional scholars because, according to an ancient rumor often granted credence by literary historians, it was authored by the Bard himself. This verse can only be characterized as four lines of doggerel ostensibly composed to cast a mighty curse on sextons tempted to disturb his sacred remains. The poet has been excused for this vulgarity in the footnotes of knowing writers; they advise us that within this church, behind a door just to the left of his monument , was a vast charnel-house to which the bones of slumbering forgettables were often hastily removed.

    The verse on Shakespeare's grave marker has been curiously provocative. M. H. Spielmann, writing in the Studies ( supra ), tells us that there was agitation in the 1880's to exhume the poet's body. By then much doubt had been cast upon the image depicted by Droeshout in the First Folio engraving and the art critics wanted to find out what the poet really looked like. "And yet," wrote Spielmann sympathetically, "the proposal was not by any means a novel one." King Edward I, Schiller, Charles I and others had all been disinterred and found to be in a fine state of preservation, especially when the soil was damp as it is around Stratford. But because of the curse on "He that moves my bones," willing sextons were impossible to find. Then someone suggested, ingeniously, that women should undertake the task, but still no volunteers came forward. In this Stratford church wives were often buried with their husbands but Shakespeare's daughters feared the imprecation and buried their mother a respectful distance away."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 01:02 PM

I dunno - he seemed quite talented giving people reservationsregarding himself and his work.

But Bobba DeVinci - now there was a genius - even if his brother stole most of it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 12:49 PM

I understand that making reservations was a real problem for him.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 12:38 PM

now if he could only decide how to spell his own name.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 12:34 PM

Ahem. I just happen to have a certified rubbing of the epitath of the English poet William Shakespeare (or Shaxper, or Shakspair, or...well, if you don't know who I mean you're culturally illiterate and probably watch "American Idol") right here on the very wall of my very own office. It uses "THE" (with the top bar of the T being over the first downstroke of the letter H), E over Y for "YE", and T over Y for "THAT".

Other interesting points are the following words: FREND, IESUS, FORBEARE, DIGG, DVST, ENCLOASED, HEARE, BLESE, THES, and CVRST. Of course, I was used for J and V for U during this period and others.

And if you can't trust Billy Bob, who can you trust? I ask ya!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 11:06 AM

ayuh. and "you" is suppossedly the newly literate's corruption of "thou" spelt with a thorn.   or so some theorize. So "(th)ee" and "(th)ou" became 'ye' and 'you'


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Aug 06 - 10:57 AM

Yet, but that "ye" is a typo more than a word that was acutally used. It's the modern typesetters version of the old written symbol Thorn and was simply a shortcut for saying (ready for this?) The. Yup. The.

Times, they are a changing. . .


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