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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 02:55 PM

How did they imagine people got related in the first place? Sheeshe!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 01:25 PM

This is important and Mom probably remembers it:

On July 20, 1910 The Christian Endeavor Society of Missouri began a campaign to ban all motion pictures that depicted kissing between non-relatives.

I don't know what they did about cowboys kissing their horses, or Sham McBride kissing...never mind that, the mental image is too disturbing.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 11:59 AM

It's a hot day today, MOM. I know the boys asked you to clean and detail their cars for them ("No one can do it as precisely as you do, MOM! Please?") but make them clear out the carport for you so you're not working out in the direct sun.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 20 Jul 13 - 02:43 AM

I understood that - and it is a too-scarce service you can provide, having the know-how to search databases and finding aids and who knows what else to come up with the evidence these folks need. That's a great help.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 07:00 PM

DItto, Sir Booque.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 06:59 PM

Oh, he's not the only one. I got help for one guy who was in Saigon Harbor in 1962 -- Agent Orange exposure and much help with several health problems he's had.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 19 Jul 13 - 11:35 AM

Thank you for helping him, Mike. None of this "thank you for your service" platitude, I'll spell it out - thank you for caring and making this effort and using your unique skills to make a real difference in a life.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 11:27 PM

And THAT'S why so many veterans give up trying to get the help they need and deserve.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 11:25 PM

I have, literally checked every website that mentions "Boyd." There's a lot of missing history for her.

The Secretary of the Navy visited her in July, 1966. Photos of the period are undated and often with titles such as "Playing cards" and that doesn't tell me who or when.

I'm trying to help a sailor with an Agent Orange claim -- very, very difficult for "Blue Water Navy" as the government does not believe, contrary to scientific studies, that dioxins washed out the Yankee Station and were not removed by the ships' water-making apparatus. You have to show that they performed "Brown Water" duties or were docked with the likelihood that the crew went ashore.

So you ask the National Archives for copies of the Deck Logs. However, after 47 years memories dim and run together and what someone believes happened during a given time span didn't. As a result I try to use my "look it up" abilities to help.

True story: I helped a guy prove he suffered hearing loss while serving on "USS Saratoga" in the Med in 1962. The VA office in Boise said, "No way!" Mind you, he was serving as a catapult operator behind the blast shield directly behind the jet's exhaust...and the Navy admits today that even with "modern" hearing protection these people usually suffer hearing loss.

I hope I can help the guy from "Boyd." Contacting the CPT, even if he is still alive, is usually of little help as it's very, very unlikely he'd remember a particular fire mission or where he took a ship during a particular time...and the VA usually says, "Ha! That's wrong!" to such evidence anyway.

I met a guy today who was with the Field Artillery (8" howitzers) in Germany. He asked for hearing aids because of hearing loss and was told "No! You can't prove it was due to military service, nyah, nyah, nyah!" So he appealed two years ago and hasn't heard anything since.

Go figure....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 12:24 PM

The email addy I posted should provide you with a lead. The CMDRS listed were the COs of the boat for the years marked.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 10:37 AM

There are some specific websites about the USS Boyd, Rap. Just do a Google search.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 09:20 AM

That one, Amos. Her history sort of goes blank after 1959, and picks up again when she was decommissioned and sold to Turkey in 1981, only to be scrapped in 1989.

Yes, I've contacted the National Archives.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 12:21 AM

CDR Charles Hamlin Black    Feb 1963 - Oct 1964
CDR Edward Arthur Short    Oct 1964 - Jun 1966
CDR Gerald Grey Roberts    Jun 1966 - Feb 1968
CDR James McAllen Webster    Feb 1968 - Oct 1 1969
Crew Contact And Reunion Information
Contact Name: Jerry L. Stutzman
Address: 21344 Sylvan Ct., Bristol, IN 46507
Phone: (574)-848-7366
E-mail: StutzDD544@comcast.net


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Jul 13 - 12:19 AM

You mean this ole tin can?

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 10:52 PM

Is that the USS Byrd you're looking for? The one that docked near Brooklyn? Or did you actually want the real USS Boyd? New Yorkers tend to get them confused.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 10:42 PM

Chongo might. But if you are doing research, you should look a bit further.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 10:26 PM

Anyone have any information (such as war journals or deck logs) for the USS Boyd (DD544) for August, 1966?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 07:57 PM

It's a position that is surrounded by openings, and the people you meet are all very much on the level. But it makes the Garden Association ladies turribly jealous.


Sir Booque, your volume has been turned over to the Postal Authorities today. Expect to hear from one of their officials in about a week.


Regards,


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 06:03 PM

It's a political job. I got it helping the current Mayor get elected -- I worked for his opponent. Mostly it's checking customer ledgers, and you wouldn't believe how many men are named "John Smith."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 03:37 PM

Cool. I hope the pay is commensurate with the amount of effort expended. Do you know of any openings?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 12:43 PM

I, good sir, am an Official Brothel Inspector. I have a badge and everything.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 10:50 AM

You seem to know a lot about them too...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jul 13 - 10:09 AM

Must be so. Amos didn't deny it. He probably knew Rangy Lil and those ladies that came down from Winnipeg, too.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jul 13 - 09:08 PM

Mata Hari, Darling Cupid, Lola Montez, Snagtooth Sal, Madame Mustach, Squirrel Tooth Alice, and others, Amos?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Jul 13 - 04:47 PM

I'd have expected nothing less of you, Amos. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jul 13 - 04:46 PM

Actually I knew two out of the three ladies who used that handle. I was quite the boulevardier in my early incarnations, and made a point to circulate among the feistiest and most talked-about dancers of the day.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jul 13 - 12:17 PM

I got fingerprints, that's about all,and they have long since washed off.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jul 13 - 10:11 AM

You knew her, Amos? Didja get any...autographs?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jul 13 - 09:43 AM

AH, the days of Little Egypt! Heady times indeed. When she died in 1921, lights went out all over the world!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 11:30 PM

MOM and Sally Rand are first cousins - many times removed (clothes, that is). . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 08:39 PM

Mom! Stop hanging around with the likes of "Egypt." That's not Little Egypt, who you know from your younger days.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 09:42 AM

AND it was a terrible year! Surely you don't celebrate the Treaty of Nonsuch, or the death of Henry Percy.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 09:27 AM

Dear Manne of Emms,

What a pleasure to see you back in Mom's depleted halls.

But, sirrah, you have to do some 'splaining.

How do you commute to a number? Or is it MOAB you refer to--that 1585 is an awful long way upthread. Hope the commute is worth it.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 08:45 AM

Hi MOM! I've started commuting to 1585 every weekend so things are a bit hectic....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 08:36 AM

Ewww, Rap, I was just taking a sip of tea when I read that! Nearly had to spit it out!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 09:49 PM

Sham McBride has been know to eat what the rats leave behind in the dumpster. He eats his boogers off his fingers, but he does use a seasoned salt he collects from the roads during the winter.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 06:28 PM

Shane generally uses the couch or the front porch for eating. When pizza or other stuff falls behind the couch, he hunts it out a day or so later, picks the dust bunnies off, and tries to decide whether it's still a good idea to eat it or not.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 05:34 PM

McBrides don't use tables -- just swill troughs.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 01:50 PM

LOL!!! No...you use those huge photospread books and trashy novels by people like Danielle Steele to do that, Stilly. Or you leave copies of serious tomes like "Atlas Shrugged" and "The Fountainhead" lying around here and there in obvious sight. (cough! cough!)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 01:34 PM

They might use it to impress visitors to their home. Like a coffee table book without pictures.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 01:06 PM

WEll, I dont have much truck with them since back when my cousin Arthur and I had the run in with the sergeant. But even McBrides are welcome to buy Beyond the Cascade. It's not a book for a few! It's a book for at least ten per cent of the population.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Jul 13 - 11:34 PM

Oh, I see. Some McBrides were living in your area, eh? Well, you've probably done the best thing, given what usually happens when they are around a place for very long.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jul 13 - 10:41 PM

Yeah, well, some of 'em settled around here -- up around Slough Creek, to be exact. No place else would take 'em due to their fondness for suid intimacy (to put it politely an' ta teach ya a new word). Anyway, they've been movin' in around here, leavin' their ancestral wallow. So we had ta shoot 'em. Dumped the bodies in an old, closed, dump because no place wanted 'em due to the massive amounts EPA paperwork dealing with the disposal of extremely toxic waste.

It was that suid intimacy thing that got 'em tossed out of Ireland, too. People still cross themselves and say, "Go ndéana an diabhal dréimire de cnámh do dhroma ag piocadh úll i ngairdín Ifrinn, Mac Brihd. Má ithis, nar chacair! Imeacht gan teacht ort."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Jul 13 - 06:43 PM

Hmm. An inscribed version would be nice. PM me with instructions, Amos. ;-)

Rap - I'm surprised you have the temerity to issue this sort of reckless challenge to the McBride clan. Very surprised. You have clearly either become unhinged...lost your marbles...or fallen into a darkly suicidal mood. The McBrides caused so much trouble in Ireland that people there still cross themselves at the mention of the name "McBride"...specially in the region around the town of Dangle. They were finally driven out and re-settled in North America, causing further havoc and distress everywhere they went. You think the Donnelys were feared? Ha! Nothing next to the McBrides.

Tell me where to send the flowers for your next of kin.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 13 Jul 13 - 04:18 PM

Looks like everyone is in the shady afternoon hammock reading Amos's book - no one is checking on MOM.

I refilled her iced tea glass. She's not interested in anyone's gourmet goodies right now - says it's too damned hot to eat.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jul 13 - 09:36 AM

Ah'm a-headin' fer a showdown taday. Gotta have it out with them dust-lickin', sheep-raisin', cattle rustlin' McBrides. They're dumber'n boiled gravel, but even so there's gonna be a showdown, iffen they can remember which end of their guns to point away from themselves. Last time the kid one, I think his name is Sham, tried to saddle a horse he kept puttin' the girth on top and kept screamin' how he kept fallin' off. 'Course, when he'd fall off his horse would take two steps forward and dump on the pile. He didn't like the name we give him, "The Horsepoopy Kid" (from his sayin', "How come this horse always poopys on me?"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 Jul 13 - 07:40 PM

Gnu,

Your Inscribed Edytione has been entrusted to the Poste Orifice.

I don't know how long it takes, but the envelope you sent on the 4th arrived here today.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 Jul 13 - 06:43 PM

Thanks for your kind remarks. If you want it inscribed you have to send me the dough. If that is not of great importance to you, order it through Amazon.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Jul 13 - 04:41 PM

Ah, good. Again, I ask, should I buy from you directly? Or from Amazon?

Meanwhile, I'm about 90% through the copy I already have. Terrific. And I really worry about what may happen to Suzannah and Muhaybee. This shows how well you have written about your characters, that the reader starts to care a great deal about them. That's one of the keys to great writing.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 Jul 13 - 04:12 PM

A box of BOOKS has arriveds at last. Gnu's will be going out this afternoon. I put in a 17-hour day yesterday, drove to LA, was up at 4:30 and crashed home at last at about 10:30. Whoof!

I wish more people were buying Beyond the Cascade, honest I do. :D


A


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