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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 01:49 PM

Hey, MOM! It's Friday!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 02:15 PM

See? It is happening already!!! Cosmic Wisdom, I mean....




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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 04:08 PM

As I again approach the end of a Friday at work, and look forward to another two days of relatively self-determined, relaxing activities, in which my spirit can rejoice in its own creativity and the tasks of ordinary life are not a burden, I am again led to consider whether I would be a happier, more extroverted, more contirbuting person in the world if I were not constrained by regular employment.

This returns me to the Mother of All Questions, which I again present before you, Brothers and Sisters of the MOAB, for due reflection and consideration, and probably another crop of weisenheimer smart-aleck replies:



Is There a Better Way   ?   ?   ?




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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 04:16 PM

Why Should There Be?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 04:33 PM

If you had chosen your parants more carefully before birth you'd be independently wealthy; so , yes, there is a better way, but you mucked it up!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 05:30 PM

Instead they gave me good looks, talent, great intelligence and the other tools needed to succeed in life.

You're just jealous.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 07:32 PM

Yes. There Is a Better Way


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 07:50 PM

Dream Big to get BEtter.

Here's another friend's version of A Better Way. Watch the photos go by....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 08:39 PM

Can you even begin to imagine what the heating bill runs?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 08:53 PM

DeGaulle and Pompadour both stayed there? Little hanky-panky, huh? Oolala, those French!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 09:41 PM

That place is really quite nice. Quaint, out-of-the-way, peaceful, pastoral...

I think I shall contact my agent and put down an offer.

I wonder if Penelope Rutledge has heard about it yet? If so, I may have to put down a fairly competitive offer.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 12:06 AM

Sum Yung Sun, newly turned 14, is as enamored of knights as he was at age 4.   New Year's Day we drove down to Myrtle Beach and spent the evening at Medieval Times. Sum Yung Sun did not find the Myrtle Beach castle exterior as impressive as the Kissimmee, Fl., castle. Neither of them, obviously, hold a candle to the castle found by Amos' friend.

But Sum Yung Sun was still all agog at the gewgaws that Medieval Times wants you there and hour-and-a-half early to have plenty of time to buy.   It was also a rare treat for him to eat with his fingers without his mother glaring at him, or kicking him under the table. The horses were really lovely.   Our Champion did not die until the very end, although neither of us could cheer for him as loudly as the Master-of-Ceremonies exhorted us to due to our dust allergies. I was tossed the obligatory carnation duly kissed by our Knight in Green (having paid the extra twenty dollars for preferred seating and the flag to wave.) Nonetheless, I could not help but wish to see my brother, the Bard MMario, suddenly appear to entertain us at our dining. In addition, though aware the 11th century was a bit too soon, I half expected my brother Rapaire to apparate into the arena during the jousting and dueling with broad swords and maces, laughing scornfully at the knights gallant, besting all of them with his half pike, and riding off with the princess and the King's blessing.



Next day, we drove to Wilmington and spent 3 hours going through the USS North Carolina Battleship Memorial.   This past summer we had explored the USS Constitution, a WWII submarine, and a Coast Guard vessel at the Baltimore inner-harbor Maritime Museum. At that time, this Mom was concerned that Sum Yung Sun was enamored of the weaponry technology without regard to what it was like for the humans involved. It was reassuring to note that 6 months later, while still quite taken with the weaponry technology, he is also beginning to grasp the human element. He was very interested in reading the posted personal recollections of some of those who served on the North Carolina. The personal recollections focused on what daily life was like for 2000+ young men to live in very close quarters on a huge steel ship that spent most of it's time in the South Pacific.   He began to make connections between what he was seeing and reading, and his maternal grandfather's recollections of his own experience serving in the Merchant Marines during WWII. I have hope that the Quaker school we moved him to in 6th grade is beginning to show some influence. I don't know who he will ultimately be. I don't know if he will eschew violence. But I have reason to hope he will think things through before deciding, and that he will have a moral compass to help guide him.

My Dad was a helmsman on Texaco Tankers throughout the war. He only began talking about that experience about 10 years ago. One thing that always strikes me is how heedless he was at age 18 about the peril he was in.   Sailing up the East Coast from Port Arthur or from the refineries up the Mississippi to New York to rendezvous for convoys across the North Atlantic, he says at that age he was simply sure that death could not find him, despite his awareness of the u-boat attacks, seeing other merchant ships go down, and his involvement in rescuing sailors from disabled or sinking ships. I never had that complete heedlessness. One of three sisters and no brothers, I wonder if it is a 'guy' thing. I see it in my son. It concerns me. So anything that indicates some thoughtfulness is reassuring.

In mid-December, my sister and I hosted a large party for my parents 60th wedding anniversary My dad's sister spoke. She is 6 years younger than Dad, and they had two older brothers, both of whom were in the Army during WWII. My aunt described she and my grandparents gathering around the radio nightly to listen to news of the war, not knowing where any of the boys were, exactly, and always wondering and worrying about their well-being, and what the news might mean in those personal terms.   Afterward, Dad commented that it never occurred to him during those years of war what it was like for his parents and sister. Apparently, neither he nor his brothers had any real sense of their own peril, and therefore no appreciation of the anxiety of those who did. What they all had then, that none of them have now, is blind faith in the leadership of our country to ultimately do what is right.

The Memorial is really quite impressive. A battleship that large is impressive, in and of itself. The self-guided tour is extensive and thorough. What impressed me most, is that it did not, in any way, glorify war, battle, fighting.   It is real and sincere. It acknowledges and values sacrifice, but does not aggrandize either the war or the the sacrifice at all.

I don't know if I would have been a pacifist during WWII. I do know, being a child of the Vietnam era, that I cannot blindly follow the leaders of my country into war. I can not trust the leaders of my country in any respect whatsoever.

I know this post ain't been much in the way of BS, but MOM is generally pretty forgiving of non-BS transgressions.

There has got to be a better way.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 12:06 AM

Think twice--it'll be damp, what with that lake so close to the house.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 06:54 AM

He's now found a nice one in Auvergne, for only 1.5 M euros. He's really excited about possibilities.

Interesting, they all seem to have broadband.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 11:51 AM

Hey Mom! it's the first weekend of the new year - why are you lying around in bed? I know you're awake - Amos was chattering at you earlier!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 12:19 PM

Wow, Janie! I'd have given my eye teeth as a young boy to have been taken to see the Constitution, the North Carolina, the submarine, etc....not to mention Medieval Times.

You have no need for concern about the young fellow's enthusiasm for war machines and stuff like that. AlL young boys feel that way, but it doesn't indicate by any means that they will grow up to be violent or to be drawn toward violence or war. I can attest to that.

I was simply fascinated by anything the had to do with war, derring-do of all kinds, when I was a boy...as were the other boys I knew...but I was not in the LEAST inclined to be violent in real life or to seek out danger in real life....strictly in fantasy life. I grew up to be someone very opposed to war, and my youthful interest in it had educated me about it enough to give me plenty of "ammunition" FOR opposing it.

So don't worry about Sum Yung Sun. It is natural for a 14 year old boy to be fascinated by warships and combat. Girls, on the other hand, almost always tend to focus on other matters, more on the social aspects of life...people relating to people, in other words. It's a very interesting phenomenon, and it's one of the great mysteries of human nature.

Present efforts by parents to utterly hide all "war" stuff from the sight of their male children is, in my view, utterly misguided. When you get to KNOW about war in detail you are much better equipped to later develop an adult state of mind that can intelligently reason out why war is a very, very bad idea.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 12:22 PM

With blessings like that, wh could have a problem? Your tsuris melt like hot butter.

MM: CHATTERING? You may see it as chattering, sirrah, and you purblind and half-deaf. Those with normal sensibilities call it communicating.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 12:39 PM

You got off lucky. He could have said you were blithering. Or bloviating.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 12:46 PM

Why not see if there's a fencing club nearby and get him into that? I'll bet he'd enjoy it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 12:55 PM

Lucky? Bloviating????? Dear Hack, I believe you are projecting again.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 12:55 PM

But make sure the foils are all properbly blunted, because if he accidentally got pricked by one during combat he might just go "P-LLLLAAAHHHPPHHHT!" and explode like a great big gas bag. It would be a bad way to lose an old friend!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 01:16 PM

I believe we just cross-posted.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 01:25 PM

Sounds like a self-abuse nightmare, amigo.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 01:29 PM

Rapaire was referring to you, wasn't he?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 01:32 PM

The degree, quality, kind, and details of reality in Rapaire's posts is often problematic, old pal. But I was referring to you. :D


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 04:05 PM

No, I was referring to Janie's kid.

Both Amos and LH are far too old and out of shape to be on the piste. It takes someone young or young at heart, with excellent hand-eye coordination and an agile, lightning-fast mind to fence any of the three weapons. Someone with the good looks and daring-do that Errol Flynn projected in the movies, someone who is not deterred by by the bloviation and humbuggery of their opponents, but who will skewer in and score!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 04:10 PM

I would be the first to agree that I'm not physically spry enough anymore for good fencing. No, I would prefer to watch the event, shout encouragment to the participants, and sell postcards with pictures of Winona Ryder during the intermission.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 04:12 PM

I would like everyone to note my ability to NOT mention Brittany Spears even once this past week, not matter what stupid thing she did. And Paris Hilton, too.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 04:23 PM

Thanks for not bringing them up, Rapaire. Your self-restraint is legendary, not to say delusory...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 08:48 PM

Except when you are neglecting to post at all....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage (sans cookie)
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 08:49 PM

And he didn't mention the entire idiotic Spears family, either. They're all a bunch of ditzes.

I've been out shopping with Moonglow. It's great to see her once and a while, what with being in school and all. Her glasses were fixed, we got some clothes and some groceries--all of those things that MOM would do with is if we were ever to slow down enough to let her help out a little now and then. (Difference here is, Moonglow hasn't slowed down, she's just a broke college student, so is happy to bop around with mom as long as mom is paying for things!)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 08:50 PM

Amos, are you saying that you WANT me to post stuff about Lindsey Lohan (I think that's the name), Brittany Spears, Paris Hilton, and other theoretical physics?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 08:59 PM

Hmmmm--I don't think Brittany Spears is a theoretical particle, somehow...let me just say that if you know anything personally about her, not regurgitated pap from some volkenscheiss member of the paparazzi, then I welcome it. You see, I think we all sense intuitively that self-determined creation is really the defining characteristic of pure BS, the kind that goes straight to Mom's head and keeps her at the top of the class for weeks. Therefore nothing I have to say or not say should outweigh your own clear-sighted sense of personally evaluated Right Action, your own truth. Sing only that song and your Mom will love you forever.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 09:02 PM

phys·ic (fzk) n. 1. A medicine or drug, especially a cathartic.

Ergo, a theoretical cathartic...or enema.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 09:15 PM

Brittney Spears, like Bill Shatner, has the initials BS...therefore relevant in some strange way to this thread. It's inspiring in Bill's case, a bit disturbing in Brittney's.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 09:42 PM

Are you suggesting that Brittany Spears and Bill Shatner are...getting together?? It would be a natural combination, since neither would have to change the monograms on their towels.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 10:32 PM

Oh, Christ...

What a mind-numbing thought. You may have ruined my whole evening.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 11:30 PM

Stop, LH. I hate to see a grown man reduced to tears.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Jan 08 - 02:12 AM

Oh, my.

Stop and visualize that . . . that . . . intersection for a moment. Or two.

Shatner and Spears. Not exactly Bogart and Bacall, are they?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jan 08 - 02:22 AM

The avoirdupois discongruity alone makes it cognitively electrifying, n;est-ce pas?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jan 08 - 11:15 AM

Well, of course no-one followed up on that post. It was too scinitillating, I suppose.

Mom's half-way down the stairs again, flat on her bum. I had to had her teacup, which she kept filling with brandy. SIgh...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Janie
Date: 06 Jan 08 - 11:59 AM

Don't know how long this link will be good, so be lazy while you can!.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2008/01/05/sessay.colombia.lazy.cnn


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jan 08 - 12:22 PM

What a charming innovation!!

I think in addition to rest and time-waste the concept of 3D participatory museums could really go somewhere. Oh, like PR, the Hall of Pettifoggery, amateur film scenarios, block building and sandbox hall, and so on.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Jan 08 - 02:06 PM

After I posted last evening I threw up. And I threw up through the night. Probably have the same thing Pat's had since the 2nd. But as I was laying in bed this morning, feeling miserable and reading the paper, I perused "Parade" magazine.

According to a poll the magazine conducted, the funniest actor on television is (drum roll)...

William Shatner.

I thought y'all would like to know.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jan 08 - 02:11 PM

Another jewel in his crown.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jan 08 - 02:31 PM

I always thought he was a pretty funny phenomenon, but I don't know if he should be advertising it...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jan 08 - 02:43 PM

In fifty posts, if we go on this way,
We will have written half another K
And in the writing, I confess,
Created beauty spun of true BS.
Let us then our glasses raise,
And our Mother roundly praise,
And avow with deep aplomb
We will pledge our hearts to Mom.

Abernathy Periwinkle McStiles
From Mother's Heart a Blessing
Collected Hymns of the Scottish BS Temple
Aberdeen, 1886


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jan 08 - 03:48 PM

McStyles' poetry never fails to move the reader! It is comparable, indeed, to the finest verse of some of his best known contemporaries, such as Mortimer Pennysworth McSwain or even the renowned Malcolm Buggerol...though Buggerol's work tends more toward an unabashedly sensualist approach which seems to suggest heaving bosoms and palpitating limbs bursting up from amongst the tangled masses of Nature's tempestuous fields of passion like young Greek gods and goddesses wrestling naked on the towering slopes of Olympus.

As such, Buggerol has done even better with his readings in the southern countries where he has been supported by a fanatical fan base in France, Spain, Italy, and Portugal, yet he retains a smaller ring of devotees to this day in the British Isles.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jan 08 - 04:08 PM

Ah, indeed. Even the usually anarchic miscreants of the youth in Britain are likely , if you ask them what literature they think of as important, to mention the revered name of Buggerol.

But Buggerol never appreciated the nuances of pure BS and its important in the zeitgeist of Western history, especially in post-deconstructionist cultural relativity evolving since the advent of the Common Market. As such, I fear his relevance will begin to wane, where McStyles will ride the wave of the next generation of post-neo-meta-angst existentialist thinkers,if such there are, and remain in the putative hearts of English-speaking audiences everywhere. Of this I am completely certain.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jan 08 - 04:38 PM

Eloquently stated, sir! It's always nice to feel that certain about something, isn't it?

My, how I love that word "zeitgeist". Such a marvelous word!

What does it mean exactly..."the ghost within"? "the hidden soul of"?


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