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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

John Hardly 12 May 07 - 08:40 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: John Hardly
Date: 12 May 07 - 08:40 PM

I just heard the Tower of Power sing that "you can't walk a straight line if you're wearin' funky shoes".

I'm not at all sure that that's true. I wonder where ToP did their research? Did they cite any or many sources? What exactly was their expertise in the matter?

Maybe you CAN walk a straight line -- even if you're wearin' funky shoes. I do it all the time.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 May 07 - 03:35 PM

The sad voice of riparian experience...


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 May 07 - 03:04 PM

Shane really really likes those probes, I'd guess. Learned in jail, probably.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 May 07 - 12:11 PM

It is too much of a coincidence that Shane is getting his probes just now when Mudcat's own favorite private detective, Blake Madison, is undergoing similar treament. Those grays are busy!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 12 May 07 - 12:06 PM

What he neglected to tell us is that Shane is enjoying the attention.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 May 07 - 11:06 AM

LH:

He has? Are you sure it wasn't just Molsson's that abducted him? It's easy to get them confused.

Where are the details of this misadventure?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 May 07 - 10:20 AM

Meanwhile, poor Shane has been abducted by aliens and is having his mind and body probed. And do any of you care?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 May 07 - 10:14 AM

Meanwhile, Way Out West, the thoughts of a former Hoosier were becomeing clearer and clearer. "Gee," he said to himself, "If this keeps up I'll be able to go to work on Monday, dammit. They might have to carry me upstairs, but at least my mind will be as clear as it ever is."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 11 May 07 - 11:51 PM

He then sent the telegram.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 11 May 07 - 09:59 PM

Well that explains it!

Q. Wyatt whipped out his expensive pen and jotted a message on the dog-earred yellow pad, directing the matron at his old digs in Fort Worth, a boarding house in the Stockyard district, to shake out his bed and blanket and dust the ceiling fan. He was headed to town, to dodge his potty brother Mainly Manley.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 07 - 09:45 PM

Likewise, Herr Doktor. I continue to regard you as the final word on all questions regarding mental health and psychology.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 May 07 - 09:43 PM

Ack, Leedle Hack, it iss goot to schee you back, ja? You haff been avay? I am schorry to schay I neffer do interfiews, especially mit people curshed by nominal determinism into actink out Fweudian mellerdramas.

I am glad to shee you anyvay, though!

Regards,


Liebenscheiss


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 07 - 06:59 PM

We haven't heard from Hector Ballsworthy (of the Independent Press) in some time. Nor have we heard from Doktor Liebenscheiss. Perhaps Ballsworthy can be persuaded to interview Leiebenscheiss one of these days?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 May 07 - 06:41 PM

Pity, sympathy, condolence, commiseration, shared woe, compassionate whimpering all en route. Hang tough but let go of ball(s).


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 May 07 - 06:38 PM

Meanwhile, Way Out West, a former Hoosier sat at his computer, still stoned from the hydrocodone even though it had been over a day since he'd taken it.

"Well," he thought, "Now I know how one of Fighting Irish feels when he's at the bottom of the pile. Like him, at least I hung onto the ball(s)."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 May 07 - 06:35 PM

Like reaching 17K and a half!!

Rupert Brackish de l'Eau
1896


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 May 07 - 06:34 PM

But nothing raises up my shorter hairs...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 May 07 - 06:33 PM

Sometimes the MOAB makes me frown or swear.
Sometimes it makes me laugh....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 07 - 06:09 PM

"the bar was the best place to seek information"

That's what Chongo always says too.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 May 07 - 05:48 PM

Manly and Still from Indiana had gathered for a late-morning coffee in their third-floor office when the secretary brought them the reincarnation of the cheap yellow form, now a crisp alert yellow page with significant white strips of lettering on it, forming the message from Mainly Still, from Indiana.

"What's this, Manly? Still? from INdiana?"


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 May 07 - 02:02 PM

The cheap yellow form had grown tired of its tawdry existence, spent in the drawers of third class stationery. It yearned to rest on mahogany desks next to a bust of Persephone, and be written on with a $150 pen. The cheap yellow form had its mind made up. It would be a cheap form no longer.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: John Hardly
Date: 11 May 07 - 01:45 PM

The cheap yellow form finally got up and moved, resentful of having been used as a desk.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 May 07 - 12:31 PM

Mainly thought he smelled trouble and was worried his good-for-nothing brother Q. Wyatt might be getting into trouble. He left the bar and strode to the Western Union office, determined to send a cable to the law firm he knew he could trust -- Manly and Still, from Indiana. His father's firm, once. He sighed, and started writing his message in careful block letters on the cheap yellow form.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: John Hardly
Date: 11 May 07 - 12:23 PM

did I say "mainly"?

I meant "manly" and still from Indiana.

stop laughing.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 May 07 - 12:16 PM

"Last I heard o' Q. Wyatt," the barkeep responded thoughtfully, "was when he said he was gonna go back to Arkansas to find his little sister, Moonshine. Said he thought she was wukkin' at some place called Copper Kettle. Ain't heard from him since..."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 11 May 07 - 11:58 AM

He was looking for his brother, Q. Wyatt Still, and given Q. Wyatt's proclivities, the bar was the best place to seek information.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 11 May 07 - 11:57 AM

Mainly Stille, from Indiana, a rugged, square-jawed paradox, strode through the bat-wing doors and slapped a fistful of eagles down on the bar....


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: John Hardly
Date: 11 May 07 - 11:27 AM

I'm mainly still from Indiana.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 11 May 07 - 10:24 AM

Are you from Maine now?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: John Hardly
Date: 11 May 07 - 07:24 AM

HUSH ON YOU MUSKIES!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 10 May 07 - 10:28 PM

Even when it's a local it sometimes takes a little while to get that out of your system. I had dental work on Monday, right side above and below, and I felt a tad light-headed for a couple of days.

Maybe our Indiana musher will pull out a dog sled on wheels and you can trot around on that (as the cargo) for the evening.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 10 May 07 - 09:48 PM

Suggest you also stay off the razorblade riding track, amigo. Not to put too fine a point on it...



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 May 07 - 09:00 PM

So, Mom, that's why your favorite son isn't participating in the bull riding competition this evening. Not that I couldn't, mind you. And I'm not going to do the bronc riding, either.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 May 07 - 07:51 PM

Sjpeakin' of scientific things, Mom, I had a growth removed from the inside of my upper left thigh this afternoon. Yessir, the removal didn't hurt a bit, except that the injection of anny's thetic was QUITE a jolt. And right now I'm on hydrocodone.


WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


At least the good doc didn't get a bit wild with scalpels and scissors!


And yes, it hurt and that's why I had it removed. And no, it wasn't malignant (but it will be checked anyway).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 10 May 07 - 04:47 PM

Aw, it's okay, Still...I wuz funnin' witchoo. These impenetrable simontifique things are funny because they often ARE impenetrable even when the core development is interesting. I skim them myself!! :D


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Chongo
Date: 10 May 07 - 04:21 PM

Boy, I could use a good Cuban right now.

Cigar, I mean...

- Chongo


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 10 May 07 - 04:20 PM

Amos Amos Amos,

Not to worry. I actually read the last one. But sometimes I skim (usually after my eyes cross from the detail).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 10 May 07 - 04:09 PM

All right, all right, so my Bogie impression got a little outta hand. Mom will forgive me. She's that way.

I mean it's understandable if I waxed a little wroth. Skimming!!!!


;>)

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 May 07 - 02:53 PM

Shame, shame, shame on Amos!
Shame, shame, shame on Amos!
Gimme an S!
Gimme an H!
Gimme an A!
Gimme an M!
Gimme an E!

What's it spell? SHAME!!!

Gimme an R!
Gimme an C!
Gimme an E!
Gimme a D!
Gimme an H!

What's it spell? ..... I dunno either....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 10 May 07 - 02:26 PM

you're gonna be in trouble now, Amos!

Casting aspersion on our own dear MOAB.

For SHAME!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 10 May 07 - 02:23 PM

MOM!

Amos just called you a two-bit BS thread!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 10 May 07 - 02:21 PM

You sweat, and strain, and pore over the rivers of information, and edit and format, and burn the midnight oil hoping to pass a little light to the world around you, to inform and elucidate.

And what do you get?

Skimming!!

I swan, Stilly, of all the heart-breakers in all the two-bit BS threads in all of cyberspace....

Skimming!!!!

Ok, ok....I know. I do it too. Ask Roger. I skim anything of his I am unfortunate enough to encounter.

Sigh...

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 10 May 07 - 02:18 PM

very good, Amos! That's a spinner, too, if you put the pin through the center of the 4


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 10 May 07 - 02:17 PM

That's okay, John.

I'll tell you a little secret--I skim those articles that Amos posts. You don't get so sea sick that way. Pick up enough along the way so you recognize the punch line if there is one and you'll do fine. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 10 May 07 - 02:14 PM

17471




A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 10 May 07 - 02:06 PM

I've ben sic, and I've ben wel. I've ben him, but never ben her.

If u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd-pyng jb.

If u wrt lik ths, u r an idiot.


What's so hard to understand about that?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: John Hardly
Date: 10 May 07 - 01:53 PM

you've never ben[sic] hur[sic] what?

This stuff makes me sique[sic]


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 10 May 07 - 12:07 PM

Quantum physics says goodbye to reality
20 April 2007

Some physicists are uncomfortable with the idea that all individual quantum events are innately random. This is why many have proposed more complete theories, which suggest that events are at least partially governed by extra "hidden variables". Now physicists from Austria claim to have performed an experiment that rules out a broad class of hidden-variables theories that focus on realism -- giving the uneasy consequence that reality does not exist when we are not observing it (Nature 446 871).

Some 40 years ago the physicist John Bell predicted that many hidden-variables theories would be ruled out if a certain experimental inequality were violated ? known as "Bell's inequality". In his thought experiment, a source fires entangled pairs of linearly-polarized photons in opposite directions towards two polarizers, which can be changed in orientation. Quantum mechanics says that there should be a high correlation between results at the polarizers because the photons instantaneously "decide" together which polarization to assume at the moment of measurement, even though they are separated in space. Hidden variables, however, says that such instantaneous decisions are not necessary, because the same strong correlation could be achieved if the photons were somehow informed of the orientation of the polarizers beforehand.



Bell's trick, therefore, was to decide how to orient the polarizers only after the photons have left the source. If hidden variables did exist, they would be unable to know the orientation, and so the results would only be correlated half of the time. On the other hand, if quantum mechanics was right, the results would be much more correlated ? in other words, Bell's inequality would be violated.

Many realizations of the thought experiment have indeed verified the violation of Bell's inequality. These have ruled out all hidden-variables theories based on joint assumptions of realism, meaning that reality exists when we are not observing it; and locality, meaning that separated events cannot influence one another instantaneously. But a violation of Bell's inequality does not tell specifically which assumption ? realism, locality or both ? is discordant with quantum mechanics.

Markus Aspelmeyer, Anton Zeilinger and colleagues from the University of Vienna, however, have now shown that realism is more of a problem than locality in the quantum world. They devised an experiment that violates a different inequality proposed by physicist Anthony Leggett in 2003 that relies only on realism, and relaxes the reliance on locality. To do this, rather than taking measurements along just one plane of polarization, the Austrian team took measurements in additional, perpendicular planes to check for elliptical polarization.

They found that, just as in the realizations of Bell's thought experiment, Leggett's inequality is violated ? thus stressing the quantum-mechanical assertion that reality does not exist when we're not observing it. "Our study shows that 'just' giving up the concept of locality would not be enough to obtain a more complete description of quantum mechanics," Aspelmeyer told Physics Web. "You would also have to give up certain intuitive features of realism."




I just know the granola birds here in California will grow fat on this, once they start to decode it. They won't decode it right, but they'll pluck out the fattest buzzwords and fly off to feed them to their young.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 10 May 07 - 12:05 PM

A flash flood will take care of that whippersnapper afore long. We have 50% chance of rain again today.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 10 May 07 - 12:00 PM

no


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