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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

Amos 19 Oct 06 - 01:02 PM
Rapparee 19 Oct 06 - 12:29 PM
Rapparee 19 Oct 06 - 12:27 PM
Amos 19 Oct 06 - 12:26 PM
MMario 19 Oct 06 - 12:24 PM
Rapparee 19 Oct 06 - 12:19 PM
Bunnahabhain 19 Oct 06 - 08:59 AM
Rapparee 19 Oct 06 - 08:50 AM
Amos 19 Oct 06 - 12:51 AM
Rapparee 18 Oct 06 - 10:04 PM
Amos 18 Oct 06 - 08:22 PM
Acme 18 Oct 06 - 08:14 PM
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MMario 18 Oct 06 - 12:51 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 Oct 06 - 01:02 PM

MMario:

Perhpas you should investigate why you go to places where your buttons are going to get pushed and carefully read those threads just in case something of a button-pushing nature might be found within. Or perhaps we should celebrate having such a fine button-pusher in our midst to show us all our flaws, in order that we might outgrow them. What a gift!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Oct 06 - 12:29 PM

Note the time stamps, Amos. Note the time stamps. And I can't fool with those, 'cause I've tr...I can't fool with those.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Oct 06 - 12:27 PM

Where have all his buttons gone?
Long time pushing,
Where have all his buttons gone?
Long time ago.
Where have all his buttons gone?
They lie in shambles every one,
When will he ever learn,
Oh when will he
Ever learn?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 Oct 06 - 12:26 PM

Funny you should say so, Raspaire, when it was Bunnhabain who lifted Mom in the post just before yours. How did you miss that? I do appreciate your helping Mom out, though. For those of us living far from home, busy with real jobs, it makes a huge difference to know she has you nearby, able to assist. Just don't try any funny business with the will. We will know.




A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 19 Oct 06 - 12:24 PM

well Rapaire - Boy scouts don't get credit for helping little old ladies across the street when they don't need to cross the street. it takes 24 hours for mom to drop off the board - so you can't get credit for raising her up more then once a day.

meanwhile - I let a certain un-named fellow poster push my buttons again./ Damn - will I ever learn?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Oct 06 - 12:19 PM

Well, Mom, it looks like once again I've had to be the one to raise you up, like on eagle's wings, to carry you on the breath of dawn. That's twice so far today.

I guess nobody else hears your cries for help. Maybe I'll get you one of those "I've fallen and I can't get up" buttons.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 19 Oct 06 - 08:59 AM

Up you come, Mom!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Oct 06 - 08:50 AM

I've been known to be a source citer.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 19 Oct 06 - 12:51 AM

Thanks, Mike; one of my all-time favorites.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 10:04 PM

...Out ride the sons of Terra,
Far drives the thundering jet,
Up leaps a race of Earthmen,
Out, far, and onward yet ---

We pray for one last landing
On the globe that gave us birth;
Let us rest our eyes on the friendly skies
And the cool, green hills of Earth.

                  -- Heinlein


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 08:22 PM

Prayers go with thee, Stilly Sage,
My own child is near her age.


In other news:

More than a decade after the first planets beyond our solar system were found, astronomers have discovered about 200 of these "extrasolar planets," as they're called. Using a common-sense definition of potentially habitable planets, coupled with extensive computer simulations, scientists have calculated how many potentially habitable planets might be detected around other stars by the SIM PlanetQuest mission. ("SIM" stands for Space Interferometry Mission.)

The mission, scheduled for a launch in the next decade, will target planets with specific traits in common with Earth: a similar mass and an orbit in the "habitable zone," not too close and not too far from its parent star. With this mass and location, it's believed a planet could have liquid water on its surface and an atmosphere -- conditions considered necessary for life to gain a foothold.

The science team has shown that, in a survey of the best 120 candidate stars for hosting such planets, SIM PlanetQuest would have the sensitivity to find:

-- Planets smaller than Earth around six stars
-- Planets smaller than twice Earth's mass around 24 stars
-- Planets smaller than about triple Earth's mass around every star in the survey group

All planets discovered by the mission would be on a short list of targets for the future Terrestrial Planet Finder mission, which would look for direct signatures of habitable environments and even of life itself.

The roster of six stars where SIM PlanetQuest could find Earth-like planets, if they exist, includes some familiar names, visible in the nighttime sky:

-- Sirius, in the constellation Canis Major, the closest star visible with the naked eye from the northern hemisphere's mid-latitudes, seen in winter along a line extending from Orion's belt
-- Altair, forming one corner of the "Summer Triangle"
-- Alpha Centauri, the star immortalized in the movie "Contact" and the closest bright star to Earth, visible from southernmost Texas, Florida, Hawaii and the southern hemisphere

The research is contained in a paper published September 2006 in Publications of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific. Its authors are Joseph Catanzarite and Drs. Michael Shao, Stephen Unwin, Angelle Tanner, and Jeffrey Yu, all from JPL.

More information on SIM PlanetQuest is available at: http://planetquest.jpl.nasa.gov/SIM/sim_index.cfm .




I am deeply moved by this story as it is the first I recall which seriously and practically talks about Terrans planning to find Terran places beyond the System. This is stirring.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 08:14 PM

I don't have time, I'm chasing down the highway for at least one more night. They've apparently decided to park Moonglow there at the hospital until her results come back. She's getting a tad cranky about it now, because she feels okay and is tired (and running out of spots) of being poked for blood samples.

Great web sites, Amos.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 01:25 PM

Well it's either got to be Queen Anne, or Queen Elizibeth, or maybe Mary Frog was well established by the Napoleonic era, so Victora is out. I didn't know that was the origin of the phrase.

My dictionary lists it as 19 century, from the eating of frogs.

Anybody feel like chasing down obscure words?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 01:20 PM

I suspect the froglegs connection would have been what made the term stick. It might even have been what Elizabeth had in mind back then. People seem to like to use dietary peculiarities when picking on terms for foreigners - Kraut, Limey, Rosbif...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 12:51 PM

well - I don't know how kinky Her Majesty and her little frog ever got. Some historians feel he was actually the closest thing she got to an actual (political) marriage - possibly because his appetites ran similar to hers


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 12:46 PM

WHAT? It has nothing to do with eating legs? DAMN!! There goes a perfectly good ribald pick-up line.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 12:37 PM

Amos - the origin of "frog" for "french" is well known and documented. Good Queen Bess (God Save Her Majesty!) was at one time flirting with the idea of marrying some french noble whose name I don't recall at the moment.

anyway - he was bug-eyed and reminded her of a frog - and she referred to him as "my little frog"; the term stuck as meaning "french".


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 12:31 PM

Just wondering. A few centuries of on and off war with the French tend to give you a certain view of them. Frog is not polite, but almost affectionate.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 12:27 PM

Man, oh, man, oh man alive!
That was 14-5-5-5!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 12:12 PM

It is a known, but derogatory term. It is an interesting question where it evolved from. I think it must date to WW II and I suppose it comes from the naive American reaction to discovering that the French are fond of eating the well-prepared legs of certain frogs.

I, on the other hand, am fond of nibbling on the well-prepared legs of certain French...

Further, deponent sayeth not.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 12:05 PM

Accepted? or known? or derogatory? or????

french=frog is probably about as acceptable as WOG or WOP or SPICK or CHINK or SLANT


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 12:02 PM

One quick question for the Americans. Is 'frog' an accepted term for the French on the other side of the pond? It just came up, and Mudcat is the best and quickest way to get an useful answer....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 11:31 AM

Dibs on 3456789012!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 11:07 AM

Numerologaster- So at last we have a word for Flamenco Ted!

14567 is coming up soon...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 10:27 AM

How is this wee filiaster now?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 10:21 AM

No, no, sir.....bad pedant!! Th' art a grammaticaster, a philologaster!   The suffix of ineptitude is clearly -aster, not -master. That one letter should have so much power!! We can be grateful the Universe has ordained that it be the letter M.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 09:15 AM

...and don't forget to see the whipmaster for an incompetent flogging, the ticketmaster for the wrong ticket, and the shipmaster so you can use that ticket to enter exile via a leaky boat.

This piece of continuation of your penance has been brought to you by the letter "M," one of the twenty-six or so letters in the English alphabet. Can you say "masochist?" Can you say "manacles?" Can you say, "MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm....?"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 12:21 AM

I confess, Father, I am a heretic -- but less a heretic, in my shame, than a hereticaster, a wanna-be iconoclast, an aspirant to heresy who has not yet found a way to truly blaspheme the Divine. No matter what I say or do, Father, the Divine moves on, unphased, untroubled, whole and ineluctable. I am a failure!! What am I to do??   It has been thirty seven lifetimes since my last confession.

Te absoluo in nomine Patriaster, Filiaster, et Spiritumaster Sanctium.... Go, and say three Ave Mariasters and fifteen Pateraster Nosters and be absolved.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: JennyO
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 12:03 AM

numerologaster - a petty collector of interesting-sounding numbers (such as 14545)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 12:03 AM

piastre, n., Italian A number roughly estimated as 3.2


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 10:39 PM

Plaster            An incompetent pl


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 10:31 PM

Moonglow has got to stop busting up her red cells. See? It's simple. And since it's simple I'm sending telephathic messages to her bod to stop busting up red blood cells. This should work, because everyone tells me I'm simple.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 08:49 PM

Parasitaster!        Philologaste! Nay, dare I say it, philosophaster!!!

Present company (absent the fitting of shoes) excepted, of course.

You're not their sort. I can see that.

I am beaming kind thoughts out to Moonglow's bloodstream, for the sheer beauty of it.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 08:17 PM

Well, being an obedible, indeed an obedientiary, I shall forsake my current locus and the scazon of Amos for my own abode, and there I shall maffick the end of another day and another meeting of the Board of Trustees in the company of my gudwyfe.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 07:59 PM

So....

Broadcaster                A petty or incompetent broad
Baitcaster                An incompetent fishing person
Aster                      An incompetent flower
Podcaster                  A petty or incompetent pod
Stratocaster               A petty electric guitar


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 07:51 PM

Oh, soft!! Oh, joy!! LO!!! A wonder, as though to discover Never-Land. Here, dear friends, for all of you to enjoy, is the Home of Lost Words. Such a thrill!!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 07:49 PM

I FINALLY found out what certain things in this world should be called. No librarians, but I am sure Rapaire can find a place therein.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 07:03 PM

Good luck to both of you fine lasses.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 05:24 PM

They did a CAT scan yesterday (I could have saved some money by bringing up one of our cats to check her out, but they didn't want to wait. . .) and her spleen is working hard with the broken down blood corpuscles. I asked the tech today what tests they were doing and she read the names of a dozen or more--checking for specific vitamins and elements that might be too low or missing or too high.

She's cheerful enough, chatting happily with her boyfriend, who has been there a lot. I've felt obligated to remind him not to neglect the things he needs to do--classes, work, etc. and I went yesterday to pick him up when he got dinner for all of us (they admitted her after dinner and the kitchen was closed. That may have been a godsend. . .) He would have had to ride the bus back to the hospital. He's a very nice young man, also a student, planning to be an engineer.

I'm headed back up later this evening, and I'll try to take along something that is more interesting than the goofy cable tv they have in the room. Staring at the ceiling might qualify for that, but I'll take a board game or something. Cards.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 05:15 PM

She doesn't take a lot of NSAIDs, does she?

I've been anemic and it's not fun, especially with the doctor I had. Barium milkshakes, endoscopies, colonoscopies...I thought that they should have done the last two at the same time ("Doctor! I see a light!")

Good luck to her and to you! And keep us informed.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 05:09 PM

Dear gawd, Still -- sorry to hear this news. They have no idea what might have precipitated this condition?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 04:48 PM

I've been away--sorry to miss the poetic theoretic dialectic. . . my mudkitten Moonglow is in the hospital. They admitted her yesterday with severe anemia. They gave her a couple of units of blood, but in the way of hospitals, have taken most of it back piecemeal as they prepare to do tests. (One wonders how the tests look when they've so recently added new to her system?). Anyway, I'm NOT going to start a thread about this, I'm not calling any more attention to it than here, but I just wanted the MOAB family to know that while we've had a scare, we're working on this one. I slept at the hospital last night and her dad drove up to spell me for a while. She's in a hospital about 45 miles north of Fort Worth in Denton, where she attends the university (UNT). I'll head up again tonight, our son is going to stay at his dad's house because he can catch the school bus from there. We'll trade off between the places like this as long as we need to. We're not sure how long they'll keep her (the tests may take a couple of days and they said they may discharge her before they're all back). I have some research printouts to learn more about the types of anemia, and I'll hand this off to her dad this evening, so we'll both be in a better position to ask informed questions when needed.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 03:59 PM

Here's a fine return! One jibe, two lines, tossed cold
Into the world have now a thousand-fold
Returned! Such profit as I make
Would take an honest broker years to take!
But, though in volume no loss can we see,
We'll strive to compensate with quality
And with one couplet, send our colleague sculling
Madly down time's stream, and madly culling,
'Til he sail back, and welcomed gladly,
With reams of reference, copied madly,
His boat awash and all his reams besodden,
Unloading bales of verbiage, ill-gotten.
This scourge of reference, true contrarian,
Reveals the soul of this, our Own Librarian.
But I am weary, and will offer
Not one more couplet to swell up this coffer;
And you, I pray, turn off your wit tyrannical,
And cease these wasteful screeds Britannical!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 03:42 PM

Now Amos, here's advice from Old Tom Hardy,
Who was better at poesy that I'll ever be!

'Terence, this is stupid stuff:        
You eat your victuals fast enough;        
There can't be much amiss, 'tis clear,        
To see the rate you drink your beer.        
But oh, good Lord, the verse you make,              
It gives a chap the belly-ache.        
The cow, the old cow, she is dead;        
It sleeps well, the horned head:        
We poor lads, 'tis our turn now        
To hear such tunes as killed the cow.              
Pretty friendship 'tis to rhyme        
Your friends to death before their time
        
Moping melancholy mad:        
Come, pipe a tune to dance to, lad.'        

Why, if 'tis dancing you would be,              
There's brisker pipes than poetry.        
Say, for what were hop-yards meant,        
Or why was Burton built on Trent?        
Oh many a peer of England brews        
Livelier liquor than the Muse,              
And malt does more than Milton can        
To justify God's ways to man.        
Ale, man, ale's the stuff to drink        
For fellows whom it hurts to think:        
Look into the pewter pot              
To see the world as the world's not.        
And faith, 'tis pleasant till 'tis past:        
The mischief is that 'twill not last.        
Oh I have been to Ludlow fair        
And left my necktie God knows where,              
And carried half way home, or near,        
Pints and quarts of Ludlow beer:        
Then the world seemed none so bad,        
And I myself a sterling lad;        
And down in lovely muck I've lain,              
Happy till I woke again.        
Then I saw the morning sky:        
Heigho, the tale was all a lie;        
The world, it was the old world yet,        
I was I, my things were wet,              
And nothing now remained to do        
But begin the game anew.        

Therefore, since the world has still        
Much good, but much less good than ill,        
And while the sun and moon endure              
Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,        
I'd face it as a wise man would,        
And train for ill and not for good.
        
'Tis true, the stuff I bring for sale        
Is not so brisk a brew as ale:              
Out of a stem that scored the hand        
I wrung it in a weary land.        
But take it: if the smack is sour,        
The better for the embittered hour;        
It should do good to heart and head              
When your soul is in my soul's stead;        
And I will friend you, if I may,        
In the dark and cloudy day.        

There was a king reigned in the East:        
There, when kings will sit to feast,              
They get their fill before they think        
With poisoned meat and poisoned drink.        
He gathered all the springs to birth        
From the many-venomed earth;        
First a little, thence to more,              
He sampled all her killing store;        
And easy, smiling, seasoned sound,        
Sate the king when healths went round.        
They put arsenic in his meat        
And stared aghast to watch him eat;              
They poured strychnine in his cup        
And shook to see him drink it up:        
They shook, they stared as white's their shirt:        
Them it was their poison hurt.        
?I tell the tale that I heard told.              
Mithridates, he died old.        


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 03:35 PM

Of course one can make a decision
To create a rhyme by its position:

* end rhyme, terminal rhyme: All rhymes occur at line ends--the standard procedure.


    * initial rhyme, head rhyme: Alliteration or other rhymes at the beginning of a line.


    * internal rhyme: Rhyme that occurs within a line or passage, whether randomly (as below, on "flow" and "grow") or in some kind of pattern:

                  A heavenly paradise is that place,
                  Wherein all pleasant fruits do flow.
                  These cherries grow, which none may buy
                  Till "Cherry Ripe!" themselves do cry.

    * leonine rhyme, medial rhyme: Rhyme that occurs at the caesura and line end within a single line--like a rhymed couplet printed as a single line:

                  I bring fresh showers for the thirsting flowers

    * caesural rhyme, interlaced rhyme: Rhymes that occur at the caesura and line end within a pair of lines--like an abab quatrain printed as two lines:

                  Sweet is the treading of wine, and sweet the feet of the dove;
                  But a goodlier gift is thine than foam of the grapes or love.
                  Yea, is not even Apollo, with hair and harp-string of gold,
                  A bitter God to follow, a beautiful God to behold?

Or the following unusual example, an In Memoriam stanza (abba) printed as couplets:
                  Upon the mat she lies and leers and on the tawny throat of her
                  Flutters the soft and silky fur or ripples to her pointed ears.

                  Come forth, my lovely seneschal! so somnolent, so statuesque!
                  Come forth you exquisite grotesque! half woman and half animal!


Or, to make it ten times worse, then telegraph
The rhyme's position in the poetic paragraph:

* crossed rhyme, alternating rhyme, interlocking rhyme: Rhyming in an abab pattern.

    * intermittent rhyme: Rhyming every other line, as in the standard ballad quatrain: xaxa.

    * envelope rhyme, inserted rhyme: Rhyming abba (as in the In Memoriam stanza).

    * irregular rhyme: Rhyming that follows no fixed pattern (as in the pseudopindaric or irregular ode).

    * sporadic rhyme, occasional rhyme: Rhyming that occurs unpredictably in a poem with mostly unrhymed lines.

    * thorn line: A line left without rhyme in a generally rhymed passage. (There are ten thorn lines among the 193 lines in Milton's irregularly rhymed Lycidas.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 03:28 PM

Or, mayhap it is now time
To cross the boundaries with my rhyme...

* broken rhyme: Rhyme using more than one word:

                  But-oh! ye lords of ladies intellectual,
                  Inform us truly, have they not hen-peck'd you all?

Or rhyme in which one word is broken over the line end:

          I caught this morning morning's minion, king-
          Dom of daylight's dauphin, dapple-dawn-drawn Falcon,          in his riding
          Of the rolling level underneath him steady air, and striding
          High there, how he rung upon the rein of a wimpling wing?

    * linked rhyme: Rhyme that depends on completing the rhyme sound by enjambment over the line end:

                  But what black Boreas wrecked her? He
                  Came equipped, deadly-electric,

    * apocopated rhyme: Rhyming a line end with a penultimate syllable:

                  A poem should be wordless
                  As the flight of birds.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 03:23 PM

And which of these would you have me do?
(And these are just a few, 'tis true!)

    * perfect rhyme, full rhyme, true rhyme: These terms refer to the immediately recognizable norm: true/blue, mountain/fountain.

    * imperfect rhyme, slant rhyme, half rhyme, approximate rhyme, near rhyme, off rhyme, oblique rhyme: These are all general terms referring to rhymes that are close but not exact: lap/shape, glorious/nefarious.

    * eye rhyme: This refers to rhymes based on similarity of spelling rather than sound. Often these are highly conventional, and reflect historical changes in pronunciation: love/move/prove, why/envy.

    * identical rhyme: A word rhymes with itself, as in Emily Dickinson's "Because I Could not Stop for Death":

                  We paused before a house that seemed
                  A Swelling of the Ground--
                  The Roof was scarcely visible--
                  The Cornice--in the Ground.

    * rich rhyme (from French rime riche): A word rhymes with its homonym: blue/blew, guessed/guest.

    * assonant rhyme: Rhyming with similar vowels, different consonants: dip/limp, man/prank.

    * consonant rhyme: Rhyming with similar consonants, different vowels: limp/lump, bit/bet.

    * scarce rhyme: Rhyming on words with limited rhyming alternatives: whisp/lisp, motionless/oceanless.


    * macaronic rhyme: Macaronic verse uses more than one language, as in medieval lyrics with Latin refrains. Macaronic rhyme is also bilingual: glory/pro patria mori, sure/kreatur, queasy/civilisé.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 02:24 PM

Now that we've improved your timing,
We sll start work on your sense of rhyming!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 08:29 AM

At JINR they had a dream
To see some element never seen.
Transuranics, like Californium,
And plain old ordinary Calcium
They slammed together, o'er and o'er
(Like the forceful closing of a door)
And behold! In the targer area there,
Alpha decay was brought to bear:
The clues all whispered, "Now you've done it!
Stick another feather in your bonnet!"

And there was element one sixteen
Followed soon by one eighteen --
But no one's seen one seventeen!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 08:14 AM

I beleive all the posters round here have donated all of their stability to the Cat, in silent whispers and unspoked curses as they try to get in...


It's not like we actually needed or wanted it anyway....


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