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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 07:39 PM

Well, I didn't think you had shape-shifted into one, man -- I figgered you just flipflopped around until Ole Whoosie decided you must be one!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 06:40 PM

For those of you who are so benighted, so bereft of knowledge, that you don't know what a ling cod looks like....

And here's some more pictures....

I did not change (i.e., transmogrify) into a ling cod. I merely assisted Mr. Whips in believing that I did.

Did you ever swim in the Bering Sea? Even in summer? When I escaped we were twelve miles off Attu. That water was cold, buddy, cold! A brass monkey fell overboard and jumped back aboard. A witch wore a Thinsulate bra. And I swam from the ship to Douglas Island.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 04:31 PM

Donuel
went to hell
for saying bad things about Bush

George won't care
He's up there
spouting nonsense out of his tush.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 04:17 PM

Clearly he believed that other things, such as the capacity for violence, were more important. Billions and billions of dollars more important. Sheesh -- just because you have a different opinion.... :>)

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 03:56 PM

Enervate. One N only. It's how I feel when I think about the vacuum he has created instead of reinforcing the intellectual capacity of the nation. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 10:30 AM

Must be vommit:

evicerate: v. the process of evicting a parish vicar from office


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 10:26 AM

Which one? Vommit or evicerate?


;>D


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 10:11 AM

I was directing my thoughts toward the Crawford, Texas Resident of the U.S. as I compiled that list. I started playing with "vacuum" and related words and interesting words presented themselves (some misspelled themselves, and I apparently corrected all but one. . .)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 09:59 AM

Eviscerate has an "s" in it -- literally, the removal of the viscera.

Viscera (Lat) The internal organs in the major cavities of the body. Most often viscera is used to refer to the internal organs in the abdominal cavity.

ANyway, speaking of evisceratin' stuff, I wonder if anyone caught Rapaire's imitation of a ling cod on film or a digital movie, like. I would love to have a QuickTime clip of him doing that. Does he, like, open and close his mouth a lot? And, like, flip his butt around? Cool.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 09:23 AM

I know people who are vacuous....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 08:02 AM

Who is Vommit, SRS? Good name for a house cat, I guess, or an ambassador from the next system out. I had one named Dammit once (a cat, not an ambassador).

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 18 Aug 05 - 01:06 AM

Vacuum

Evacuate

Vacuous

Hmmm.

Evicerate?

Enervate

Cogitate

Masticate

Vommit.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 10:47 PM

Why should I buy vacuum? I was just in Boise, the state capitol, where GWBush is coming -- and Cheney was there at the same time I was (no, I didn't speak to him; I've completely cut him from my social circle for that time he got drunk and farted while swimming in the punch). There was then, and soon will be, enough vacuum there to supply the solar system. Buy vaccum? I'll just ship some in from Boise.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 08:17 PM

Hon, that guy who sells vacuums is coming up the front walk again!

[Mrs. Rap sticks her head around corner, index finger over pursed lips, shusshing Rapaire]

Turn off the light! Pretend we're not here!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 07:43 PM

SRS, whatever do you mean? Gluon? Or Rapaire? Are you implying that if Rapaire sees me first I won't get to see him? An old friend and fellow MOABITE? Did you think I was going to sell him some photon-replacement therapy or something?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 05:59 PM

You'll see him (about spam) if he doesn't see you first. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 05:15 PM

A scientific advance in theory, relating to zero-point field and its relationship to "particle" motion, mass and intertia, lies behind the mysterious dispatch of young Gluon, the quarking duck-dog, on his secret research mission.

Here's more aboutit from New Scientist.com:

"Is jiggling vacuum the origin of mass?
Where mass comes from is one of the deepest mysteries of nature. Now a controversial theory suggests that mass comes from the interaction of matter with the quantum vacuum that pervades the universe.
The theory was previously used to explain inertial mass ? the property of matter that resists acceleration ? but it has been extended to gravitational mass, which is the property of matter that feels the tug of gravity.

For decades, mainstream opinion has held that something called the Higgs field gives matter its mass, mediated by a particle called the Higgs boson. But no one has yet seen the Higgs boson, despite considerable time and money spent looking for it in particle accelerators.

In the 1990s, Alfonso Rueda of California State University in Long Beach and Bernard Haisch, who was then at the California Institute for Physics and Astrophysics in Scotts Valley and is now with ManyOne Networks, suggested that a very different kind of field known as the quantum vacuum might be responsible for mass. This field, which is predicted by quantum theory, is the lowest energy state of space-time and is made of residual electromagnetic vibrations at every point in the universe. It is also called a zeropoint field and is thought to manifest itself as a sea of virtual photons that continually pop into and out of existence.

Rueda and Haisch argued that charged matter particles such as electrons and quarks are unceasingly jiggled around by the zero-point field. If they are at rest, or travelling at a constant speed with respect to the field, then the net effect of all this jiggling is zero: there is no force acting on the particle. But if a particle is accelerating, their calculations in 1994 showed that it would encounter more photons from the quantum vacuum in front than behind it (see Diagram). This would result in a net force pushing against the particle, giving rise to its inertial mass (Physical Review A, vol 49, p 678).

But this work only explained one type of mass. Now the researchers say that the same process can explain gravitational mass. Imagine a massive body that warps the fabric of space-time around it. The object would also warp the zero-point field such that a particle in its vicinity would encounter more photons on the side away from the object than on the nearer side. This would result in a net force towards the massive object, so the particle would feel the tug of gravity. This would be its gravitational mass, or weight (Annalen der Physik, vol 14, p 479).

Rueda and Haisch say this demonstrates the equivalence of inertial and gravitational mass ? something that Einstein argued for in his theory of general relativity. "In place of having the particle accelerate through the zero-point field, you have the zero-point field accelerating past the particle," says Haisch. "So the generation of weight is the same as the generation of inertial mass."
...



This explains why, if the theory is correct, Gluon might well come back withhis spots knocked off....on one side at least.

I am checking the sub-ether SIPRNET regularly, but all I am getting so far is advertisiements for photon-replacement therapy and sub-atomic Viagara. Maybe there's a glitch in the networking layer of the software. I may have tapped into the future Internet inadvertantly, because of my psychic link with Gluon. This will bear investigating. Future Spam... who'ld a thunk it? Maybe I can send Rapaire when he gets back from Boise...

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 03:34 PM

We should him one of these to fit all that vacuum in.


I just had an idea for the next Moab Campaign. We should reform the English language so any words spelt with a 'uu' should be altered to a 'w'. Vacwm. Much better.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 01:51 PM

Have him check out the lacunae also.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 01:49 PM

I don't have a vacuam cleaner but I could send him a vacuam bottle - and then he could haul it off to a dustbin.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 01:44 PM

I have a sub-ether SIPRNET transmission from Gluon among the Interstices. He was taken by surprise and deflected briefly from his mission by a muscular Boson, but he managed to hit transition energy just at the last minute and laughed all the way to the next orbit. It wasn't easy. He is now back on task for operation PANTY RAID and will be reporting on the results of interest in due course.
He wants to know if anyone has a vacuum cleaner; it seems there is a lot of vacuum among the Interstices and he thought he'd neaten up a bit before moving on.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 10:41 AM

Actually, no, mon vieux. FETCH was terminated because all its funding was shifted from DARPA to Baghdad.

Gluon is on a much more sensitive project, Particle And Nanowave Temporal Y-Axis Reconnaisance And Integration of Dimensionality, known amongst those with the appropriate clearance as Operation PANTY RAID. It is based on some mysterious charred notebook pages left behind by Doctor Feynman after one of his notorious out-of-body experiments, the one he never completed because...well...suffice it say that he is still listed as AWOL by the advanced research labs at Cal Poly.

I could tell you more but then, I would have to kill you. It is classified, you see. And I would never due that to a MOAB Brother. So, mum's the woid, see?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 09:15 AM

Gluon's not here. Last time I saw him was a couple weeks ago, when our paths crossed in the Yukon. He was trying to be a sled dog, but was annoying all the other dogs by jumping on the sled and coasting downhill, running over the other dogs in the process. He seemed to be having a whole helluva lot of fun, though.

Amos, is this "Project FETCH" you sent him on?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 12:35 AM

Thanks, Ma'a'm. Shore do appreshiate all them tidbits.

That duck-dog is off on a mission to the Interstices for me. He's doing some recce on the possibilities of pan-spatio-temporal BS waves. He's the only one I could trust to do the research, on account no-one else would fit between the Interstices widdout gettin' stuck. If he comes back with his spots knocked off, I'll know we're on to somp'n. The plan is, if the dog-duck makes it back with positive evidence, then we'll send Rustic in -- she already knows how to navigate them territories somehow.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 12:27 AM

Here you go, Amos. More stuff to mine.

Is Gluon with you? I don't think he's with Rapaire in Boise. I haven't heard the duck/dog rooting around the yard lately (just my garden variety dog, barking at geckos and chasing toads through the herb garden).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 11:23 PM

In other news, this may be important:

RESEARCHERS DEVELOP NEW SOURCE OF ENERGY USING NANOTECHNOLOGY, August 16
Reaction Can Occur in Microseconds on Surfaces as Small as Microchips

Countries across the world continue to search for new ways to create energy. As our current means for energy continue to deplete, thus making them more expensive to generate, governments are searching for new energy resources. Researchers at the University of Missouri-Columbia have developed a more efficient source of energy involving nano-scale particles that take only microseconds to create and can be developed on a surface as small as a microchip.

Full story at http://www.physorg.com/news5830.html






One of the biggest issues in recapturing energy set loose by large scale processes (sunlight and tides) in the seas and atmosphere is the problem of energy density. Although rebuffed by experts I have always thought this was possibly soluble by addressing the issue of economic scaling to the micro-scale. Traditionally you build vanes and tidal generators big to capture as much energy as possible at least cost. If it were possible to produce a million tiny devices for the cost of one large one, yet capture energy from more and different situations, it would be a major step forward.

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 08:07 PM

I'll at least take time to give Mom a boost up from down in the vulgar chatter.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 02:57 PM

You realize this means more time for your cyber-brood, SRS? Don't get leisurely on us now!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 01:16 PM

Congrats on your well-deserved survival!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 01:13 PM

The kids are back in school! Yee Haw! shouts the mother with glee. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 01:03 PM

In that case, Good MMario, Roger deserves more respect, as he has eponymously become the incarnation of the Spirit of the Mudcat.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 11:13 AM

*snicker* Curmudgeon is over on the thread title complaint thread paying his penance for levity withouyt warning - and has redefined the verb shamble.

But it is interesting to note thatthe definition of the NOUN shambles is:
(1) : a scene or a state of great disorder or confusion (2) : great confusion


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 11:10 AM

Yeah, all that serenity has ruined his drive, man! Shame really. He coulda beena contendah!

Rapaire: I have seen the future and it are us.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 10:04 AM

From earlier:

Whaddya mean? We can't quit now. Aren't we going for 1,000 posts on this thread? Come on...

Little Hawk being rather unambitious


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 09:33 AM

I am currently enthralled to a conference in Wildest, Darkest, Most Savage, Boise. The conference is on the future of libraries in Idaho (and, by extension, the future in general). I am typing this on a super-secret computer not yet ready for general release -- it's powered by a thin-membrane battery which utilizes the interaction between the Strong Force and Gravitons; it has a memory which, by using the whatchamacallit of sub-quarks, allows something like 900 terabytes to be stored in the a space less than the size of the point of a common pin, and has all kinds of other neat stuff.

Some of it doesn't even have a noun to its name yet.

A real, living, breathing futurist is the facilitater (that's the way we spell things ending in -tator in Idaho, in homage to the state spud), there were three SF writers here yesterday, and all in all it's pretty cool. They're even providing breakfast, lunch, dinner, a paying for a box under the Interstate for me to sleep in.

I managed to escape from the galley in Alaska by pretending to be a ling cod and jumping overboard before Mr. Whips, the Row Master, could stop me. After trudging through the Wrangell-Mt. St. Elias/Kluane wilderness areas, I was rescued by the RCMP just outside of Yellowknife. Naturally, the RCMP held me as a suspicious person and I had to do all sorts of things to satisfy every member of that all-female police post that I was not a sexual pervert -- details can't be discussed and hold Canada's highest security classification, the so-called "Triple X."

Now you know.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 09:10 AM

I though you were in the wilds of Idaho, or Indiana, or somewhere like that, and couldn't post for weeks?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 09:08 AM

Are you hogging the Ozone down there in tejas? We had a couple of feeble little thunder whimpers over the wekend - but nothing like they should a been.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Aug 05 - 09:03 AM

Tsk, Mom! You get back up there where you belong. C'mon on now, upsy-daisy! Up up up! That's it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 11:23 PM

Here I thought we had all the ozone in the country stored up around our wee thunderstorms tonight. Looks like the air is a still rarified in MOABland.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 10:47 PM

I gotta say, no-one puts out finer, more far-flinging, out-of-this world BS than our own Rustic Rebel. I mean this girl just cuts loose and unmoors, full steam and flank speed away! Yeeehaa!!

I beleeve she is a prime candidate to solve the mystery and challenge of the gauntlet described up thread (13 Aug 05 - 02:08 PM ). She's already putting out the right kind o' sparks and such!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: JennyO
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 10:41 PM

Would it help if you put out some haggis for baits? I believe the little fellas are attracted to them.

(Now I suppose I'll have the RSPCH on my back - haggis hunting season is over for the year...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 10:37 PM

Tiss a finer day than yee shall know fine lassie's and ladels of the finest of threads
that she sewn into the nebulus and meteorite that was lost in a vacuum
bag it up and send it to my home young gentle man
that has fallin from a higher than thought of realm of passion and desire, How can thoust be so true and fair
Lady,if you got the passion for fair, Me I ain't got a soul
, I cry be neigh to help me in my reaches beyound the past of desire thou hast been a league of my desire for a fourth night
of the living dead, cool flick
a cigarrette out of the window! how do you live with yourself
free your self, then you can be yourself
yes that's who you were before you took the ride to the land of the mushrooms
Onions and garlic. Then add the meat
barely cold when it was swallowed whole by a giant snake
pit in the jello.


That was written by me and my otherselves...Peace lovelies, Rustic


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 07:42 PM

Do you feel like joining in the next round of my fun game?

It's called "Hunt the Bagpiper"

There's a few thousand of them gathering in the park behind me on Sunday, and can I find just one for the week after? It's not as if they're easy to lose, and I've had alot of practice of doing so....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 02:47 PM

The lightness of B.S.
Always Brings the Mother thread
Toward the light. Ah, MOAB!

Yun Goan Quir
730-761
Mystic Chinese Acclamations
Sung Upri-Sing, ed.
Spokane and Sung, pubs,
Portland, 1957


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: JennyO
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 10:45 AM

Maybe a refresh haiku, freda?

One click saves her from
Falling into the abyss
Mother is refreshed.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 10:18 AM

It's a long way from New Joisey,
To Idaho, in Boise
Where the streets are full of Idahos in flower
Where the halls are bright and noisy!
Oh, I must return to Boise
Yes, I'm heading off to Boise in an hour.

Boise! Boise!
Bright and light and noisy!
Where the souls are brave and no-one ever cowers.
Boise! Boise! Sophisticated, poise-y!
I am heading off to Boise in an hour.

A

Good luck on your expedition, amigo. Don't come back smelling like an Idaho, or there'll be hell to pay.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 09:35 AM

I heard the author of that book interviewed on a local radio station. Somehow it slipped my mind. Thanks for the reminder.

And who knew that the simple statement "refresh" would ever adorn the MOAB, eh? Thanks Freda, but surely you had something else you could add?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: *daylia*
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 09:32 AM

I've never contributed to this monstrosity before, but today, well ...this is 4 U, Mother dear!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 09:26 AM

Yeah, and I'm off to Boise in an hour, though I'll still have Internet access.

Eat your heart out!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 09:09 AM

Ah, Joy!! The return of the Most Eclectic Rapaire machine, duellist par excellence and moi-mechanic extraordinaire!!

Welcome back from the land of melting tundra, buddy!! That book sounds like a sure-fire thang.


A


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