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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 01:49 PM

Yes, I knew that. But it's only part of The Secret.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 01:38 PM

The secret is



Compost!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 01:37 PM

"I say, Smedley. Have you heard about Reggie?"
"Why no, Charles. What is it?"
"He's living in a tree in Borneo with an Orangatang."
"Good Lord! Male or female?"
"Female, of course! Nothing queer about old Reggie!"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 12:49 PM

Those scientist fellers are dead wrong! There ain't nothin' queer about the Universe. They're just lookin' in th' wrong places. If they would put more of their efforts toward understanding BS, they'd have it all figured out in no time. The answer isn't in the stars or inside the atom! It's in the pie, the pile and the flop! Just ask the stool. The stool knows!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 10:25 AM

London delegates to a global conference on the future have been warned that our universe may be just "too queer" to understand.

Richard Dawkins, the professor and "Selfish Gene" author from Oxford University, said we were living in what he called a "middle world" reality that we have created, the BBC reported Friday.

Experts in design, technology, and entertainment have gathered in Oxford to share their ideas about the future our futures. It is the first time the annual event, known as TED Global, has been held in Europe. In the past, it has been a U.S. event.

Dawkins' opening talk, in a session called Meme Power, explored the ways in which humans invent their own realities to make sense of the infinitely complex worlds they are in.

"Are there things about the universe that will be forever beyond our grasp, in principle, ungraspable in any mind, however superior?" he asked. "Successive generations have come to terms with the increasing queerness of the Universe."




Increasing queerness? Or just the same amount, more openly discussed?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 01:13 AM

MMario,

There's some powerful stool on my gardening shoe right now, holding up some work I had to do around the house. That's because I won't let this shoe back into the house until the stool stops being so powerful.

Darned dog. Left a steaming pile right in front of the side door into the garage.

This is the same dog, by the way, who this morning watched me, then my son step carefully over the dog-proof chicken wire that surrounds the veggie garden. She then happily hopped over to join us.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jul 05 - 01:08 AM

The possibilities beggars the imagination: condoms, for one.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 09:37 PM

To which he replied "You were supposed to think of that before you left to come here!"

In other, more sturdy new: Sponges with pores only nanometers in diameter could help lead to advanced fuel cells in hydrogen-powered cars, as well as super-coolants to keep perishable drugs fresh and devices to clean out toxins in the body, experts told UPI's Nano World.

The current market for such nanoporous and microporous adsorbents is $1.77 billion and is expected to rise to $2.12 billion by 2012, noted technical market research firm Business Communications Company in Norwalk, Conn.

"The market for these nanoporous adsorbents will grow much more rapidly in dollar value than the microporous adsorbents," said Ravindra Deshpande, a market-research analyst in Harrisburg, Pa.

Adsorbents stick to any number of chemicals.They find use in everything from pet litter, where they soak up odors, to environmental remediates, where they help draw out toxins.The greater the surface area they have, the more molecules they can stick to.As the size of the pores on an adsorbent decreases, it offers more surface area per unit volume of the product.

"We have several thousand meters square per gram.Imagine five football fields in one gram of material," said Doug Smith, president of nanoporous adsorbent manufacturing company NanoPore in Albuquerque, N.M.

NanoPore has developed nanoporous adsorbents that soak up air and thus act highly effectively as thermal insulation."We'll have nanoporous insulation winging up in the space shuttle," Smith said."People like Boeing and General Electric are our customers."

The real value of nanoporous adsorbents is how they enable whole new classes of products, Deshpande explained."One emerging technology is hydrogen storage for vehicles powered by hydrogen gas," he said."What these tanks have are adsorbents in them that hydrogen sticks to, so you could store more hydrogen per given unit weight.So nanoporous adsorbents are an enabling technology for some of the really major upcoming things."NanoPore has also developed a novel cooler that sucks out heat by evaporating water from nanoporous adsorbents."You get cooling on demand, seven times the cooling power of ice, with low weight and cost, for shipping drugs around, for instance," Smith said.



This, too, could be very important....


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 08:23 PM

That's what I said to the proctologist.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 08:11 PM

The nature of the stool is such that while no leg is necessary, an infinite number of legs are possible. It all depends on how the stool feels at any given time. When the stool is grumpy, we're lucky to get two legs. When it's feeling magnanimous we may get 158^34 legs. Just depends on a lot of factors, some of which even the stool doesn't understand, and the stool is extremely smart. In fact, it is smarter than all MOABites put together with a healthy dish of Stephen Hawking on the side. That's some stool, huh?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 12:46 PM

one leg of the stool that upholds the Grand Unified Theory of BS

I thought there WAS only one leg on the stool- and the level of BS is what supports the stool. self-support in some ways - stool supported stool


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 12:41 PM

that rotating through the parameters of one dimension will bring about concomitant relocations of "BS universe" due to the intersection of influences between sets, even though the value of the second, third, fourth, fifth or sixth axis is constant. Thus the number of resultant sets of BS spaces would be on the order of (6^6)^6. This number (possibly the original interpretation of Deuternonmy's number of "the beast") defines available universes in BS space.

This opens the door to the interesting hypothesis that the arch-enemy of authoritarian dogma is BS....or at least, better BS. But that is a subject for another essay.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 11:39 AM

Thus, some kinds of BS can be very important and somethings given great importance can be complete BS.

Within this statement is the key that unlocks one leg of the stool that upholds the Grand Unified Theory of BS: that BS itself is divided, and, more importantly, it can be expressed mathematically.

Let us call Very Important BS something, perhaps BS' (pronounced "Bee Ess Prime"). Regularily Important BS can be called BS, and the speeches of politicians can be called BS| (pronounced "flushable crap"). It is then immediately obvious that.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 11:30 AM

The importance index and the "BS" characteristic are independent axes of an at least six dimensional system of semantic evaluation.

Thus, some kinds of BS can be very important and somethings given great importance can be complete BS.

Hope this helps.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 11:08 AM

A Haw is a type of fruit.

but neither a haw nor a-ha! start with "ha" - so they don't count.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 11:01 AM

BWL you forgot

A-ha!


Amos said
This may be very important.

Then what is it doing here?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 10:39 AM

HAD - past tense - see also "has"

HAG - Popeye's enemy

HAH! disbelieving eclamative

HAI! - Bruce Lee in attack mode

Haj - religious journey

Hay - something to make while the sun shines.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 10:17 AM

See also "Has" -- a state of being attributed to those who work with old books. Cf "Wanna".

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 15 Jul 05 - 12:40 AM

Lest anyone confuse any more of the various three-letter words beginning with "ha", please refer to the following:

"Haw!" = Tweed

"Har!" = Ralphs

"Hal!" = Fictional computer

"Han!" = Pilot of Millenium Falcon

"Hat!" = Thing to wear on your head

"Ham!" = Purty good samwich makin's


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 11:40 PM

July 14, 2005
    
Graphite films only nanometers or billionths of a meter thick could help store hydrogen in an inexpensive, easily manufactured, lightweight and nontoxic manner, an international team of scientists told UPI's Nano World.

"If -- and that's a very large if -- a practical method for preparing the nanostructures can be found, there is a possibility for large-scale, economical production," said researcher John Tse, a materials scientist at the University of Saskatchewan in Saskatoon.

Government and industry leaders are convinced hydrogen will prove a key fuel in the future, with a five-year $1.2 billion U.S. initiative announced in 2003 to develop hydrogen fuel cells and Shell Oil committing $1 billion over five years, according to plans they announced in 2001. This is because hydrogen is the most common element, making up roughly three-quarters of the known universe, while fossil fuels are limited.In addition, the chemical reaction needed for hydrogen cars combines hydrogen with oxygen to produce energy and water, with none of the dirty mix of toxins and global warming gases burning gasoline spews.

"The use of hydrogen as a fuel in which the combustion product is water will help to reduce the emission of greenhouse gases that are detrimental to the environment," Tse said.

The problem of how to store hydrogen remains the Achilles' heel for a hydrogen economy, however.The desired end is a cheap device no heavier and no bulkier than a traditional gasoline tank that provides enough hydrogen to power a vehicle for at least 300 miles before refueling.This is challenging, because storing hydrogen often demands extreme cold, heat or pressure, which requires equipment that is heavy, bulky or expensive.



This may be very important.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 11:14 PM

A while back it was revealed that khandu and tweed were the same entity. Have they, like spin and charge, become seperated?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: khandu
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 10:54 PM

The preceeding was posted in honor of Tweed.

k


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: khandu
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 10:53 PM

No! No! No!!!
Not "Har!", goddammit!!

"HAW!!"

"HAW!"

k


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 10:45 PM

Bet those bees got a trifle sea-sick during the day of the storm. You might not want to eat that honey filled with bee barf. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:32 PM

Hi, Mom! I'm back from my adventure with my new "friend" Dennis. I don't like Dennis very much. He knocked down more of my trees. Even made one of 'em fall on my house. But it didn't hurt much. At least that's what the house says.

It's been hot workin' out in the hot sun cleanin' up Dennis's mess with no electricity to run air-conditioners. Sure am glad we have a pond to go swimmin' in.

By the way, I left the ceramic birdhouse/beehive hanging in the tree and it did just fine. It didn'r get knocked down or broken and the bees seem quite happy.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 12:05 PM

You need those well-waxed ceilings, Doctor R, for the rare occasions when you blow your top, I expect.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:56 AM

Har!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:54 AM

Sealing ceiling wax without dribbling it on the floor impresses ME.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:48 AM

And ceiling wax* and string (theory)?






*yes. I know. Deliberate.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:35 AM

Well, I think this is all very interesting. From my point of view, there's some really interesting stuff is going on -- separating spin from charge, for example, is a really inneresting idea, one I never thought could be thought about! And here someone has gone and done it. It is the kind of thing that could have major long-term consequences, if only one could figger out what they might be.

But these posts from Rapaire, I dunno -- I don't do that level of complexity, and I deeply suspect he doesn't either. I think he is driving shank's mare while making V-8 and Air Conditioning noises out of his mouth in order to impress the sleepy neighbors. "Put-put-put, I'm a Cadillac!"

I am not going to allow this to impress me. I won't, I won't!! ***BG***

Cats and sausages, now, and cabbages and kings, there's somethign that impresses me.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:29 AM

and even freds aren't sure about ralphs.

I take that back - because one thing about ralphs we are all sure about is they are annoying! HAR!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:25 AM

No one is quite sure about freds.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:22 AM

gluon resonates to quantam numbers

Since when have 'cat' 'sausages' or 'muddy lake' been quantum numbers?
(Freds also create a strong response, but I'm not sure what they are...)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 09:04 AM

Ya gotta splain it er Amos won't unnerstan it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 08:57 AM

going through the last couple of rapaire's posts I get this...



gluon resonates to quantam numbers

Librarians always have to make things complicated with big words. I don't know why Amos does it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 08:54 AM

Aw, geez, Amos! I'm sure that you know damned good and well that a model recently introduced by Jaffe and Wilczek based on the quarks being dynamically bound into diquarks has been used to predict that the recently observed exotic baryons (pentaquarks) fall into a nearly ideally mixed combination of an octer and anti-decuplet representations of SU(3) flavor. And you must know that the model predicts two states with nucleon quantum numbers which have tentatively been identified with the N*(1440) and the N*(1710), and that an inequality relating the partial widths of these nucleon states in the N+nucleon channel to the width of the theta+ is derived for this model under the assuming ideal mixing and that the only significant exact SU(3) symmetry violations are the result of ideal mixing, threshold effects and the masses of pseudo-Goldstone bosons. This inequality is badly violated if the states in the multiplet are the N*(1440) and the N*(1710) and if the recent bounds extracted for the theta+ width are reliable. It is obvious, then, that the model appears to require a scenario with the existence of at least one presently unknown resonance with nucleon quantum numbers.

I gotta do everything around here myself! Isn't it clear from the foregoing that the "unknown resonance with ncleon quantum numbers" is our very own friend and colleague, Gluon? Sheesh!

So, where's my Nobel Prize for Physics?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 02:11 AM

. . . I don't get your point

Sez the pot, calling the kettle black. . .

:)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jul 05 - 12:17 AM

Rapaire:

I don't get it, man. What is your point?

:)


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 10:01 PM

Then there's this:

The possibility of an anomalous coupling between the top and charm quarks and the gluon field...was explored in a model-independent way using an effective Lagrangian that is gauge invariant under a nonlinear realization of SU(3)C x SU(2)L x U(1)Y. Even for the current 200 pb-1 of integrated luminosity at the Fermilab Tevatron, the new physics scale that strongly modifies the coupling of t-c-g must be larger than about 2.5 TeV if no signal is found within a 3 sigma confidence limit. For 1 fb-1 of data, this constraint can be pushed up to 3.8 TeV.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 07:20 PM

You could just cut off its head, Bunn...it would stop spraying, killing, complaining and shedding all in one swoop!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 01:41 PM

How to train a Cat.

We rather like the ducks on the pond. The cat bringing duckings in as 'presents' doesn't fit too well with this. Throw the cat into the pond until it stops it. It's amazing how quickly they learn...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 12:44 PM

maybe cats are like Gizmo in that one should "never ever get them wet?"

Actually have had cats who would go swimming; another that liked to shower with us.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 12:31 PM

Cat hair spinning down the drain. Now that's a killer. Daughter Moonglow insisted the cat needed a bath, and I did it in order to save the cat's life (who knows how a novice might react in the face of a cat reacting to water). What happens with said fur and odor-removal? Fluffy cat has three times as much fur to now distribute as loose radical hair, despite the amount clogging the drain, lining the towels, and stuck in the cat brush.

Go figure.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 11:56 AM

What about fur on a spinning cat? Or a spinning bicycle paint on a cat? Or a spinning cat on a furry bicycle?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 10:00 AM

no more given to sudden changes or going off on their own than say, the fur on a cat

Obviously whoever came up with THIS comment has never lived with a cat. A cat's fur CONSTANTLY goes off on its own. Usually onto something with a contrasting colour. Especially if that something is not washable.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,Rapaire
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 09:13 AM

But Amos! That thing about spin and charge is very nice, but they did not in any way address fur on a bicycle! Paint, yes. I've seen the math, and they can even deal with paint on a cat. But they gave no consideration at all to fur on a bicycle OR a bicyle on a cat OR a cat on a bicyle OR a bicyle on fur.

Ergo, I'm just not so sure....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jul 05 - 01:55 AM

The media circus won't cover this crime
It was just too cut and dried
They want stories that bleed and stretch over time
not this one, believe me I tried.

They want MJ and OJ and Natalee Holloway
or maybe a kid in a well
They want explosions and crashes and blood as it splashes
underground, in a dank dark hell.

The truth as you know it are lies, they won't show it
what matters is the bottom line
Friendship is golden and privacy's lonesome
So alone I'll be silent of the silence of crime.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 10:13 PM

Its still made-up quick bad stuff, Mag. Just because Molly Erwin made it up doesn't change anything.

But never mind -- chacun a son mauvais poete, I always say!

IN OTHER NEWS, LETTING THE SPIN LOOSE, A team of scientists at the Weizmann Institute of Science has recently demonstrated conclusively that, in very specific circumstances, spin can become separated from charge and progress independently down a wire

Two properties of an electron - its spin and its charge - are generally thought to be inseparable, intrinsic characteristics, no more given to sudden changes or going off on their own than say, the fur on a cat or the paint on a bicycle. But a team of scientists at the Weizmann Institute of Science has recently demonstrated conclusively that, in very specific circumstances, spin can become separated from charge and progress independently down a wire. Their findings appeared in a recent issue of Science.

Full story at http://www.physorg.com/news5107.html

SO THE NEXT TIME THE SPIN BIN IS FULL OUT IN DFW, YOU CAN JUST POUR 'EM ONTO THE WIRES AND SEND THEM TO CALIFORNIA. WE WON'T NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 04:05 PM

My friend Sue used to be surnamed Erwin until she married Eastman, but she wasn't born with either surname. I don't think she is related to Molly, though. Especially since she (Sue) still lives (such as anyone can) in the Bay Area.

(She married Eastman so she wouldn't have to change the monograms on the towels.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 12 Jul 05 - 03:11 PM

No madeup quick bad stuff for me, Amos. I posted a link--there really was a Molly Erwin who wrote maudlin poetry.


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