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BS: The Mother of all BS threads

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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Jun 06 - 05:02 PM

It's not prime, and it's not evenly divisible by an even number, so what's the problem? Oh, sure, all of the numbers DO appear in both the value of pi and the value of e, but so do a lot of others, like the square root of -1. Shucks, it's not even palindromic!

Unless...is your birthday either December 5, 1945 or January 25, 1945?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jun 06 - 06:11 PM

It entices me because it is evenly divisible by 1, 5, 13, and 65, if you must know.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 01 Jun 06 - 06:31 PM

Shatner could be divided into 5, 13 or 65 parts, and that would be perfect. Does this explain Little Hawks obsession?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jun 06 - 07:50 PM

The square root of -1 does NOT appear in any of the places of Pi, Rapaire. Pie are real.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Jun 06 - 08:01 PM

ALL numbers -- rational, irrational, imaginary, odd, even, dimensionless, dimensional, prime, real, complex, rational, integer, fractional, whole, natural, and those we wot not what of as yet -- are contained within both pi and e.

Doubt this at your peril, for the Pythagorians boys deal most harshly with Unbelievers.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Jun 06 - 08:36 PM

These chaps were worked over by the Pythagorian Boys.

You have been warned.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jun 06 - 08:50 PM

Zygmund estimates!! HA!! Rapaire, NO-ONE listens to Zygmund estimates anymore. Not since the one about Y2K poisoning the water supply.

And, as I said, Pi are real. i, on the other hand, belongs to the order of imaginary numbers, so just fageddaboudit. If i were to show up in a pie, do you KNOW what would happen to all the circles in the world? Geometric cataclysm of the third order, is what!!

You'd never hear the end of the i-scream on pi.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Jun 06 - 08:57 PM

My point exactly! The Followers have put these formerly astute mathematicians in a place where, whether they are right or wrong, their work is discounted, tossed upon the rubbish midden of failed mathematics! And the Followers (which is the correct terms for the Pythagorian Boys) do this to everyone who they consider an Unbeliever!

Do you know what those guys are doing now? Do you??

Working out Fibonacci Numbers, that's what! For eternity! Like Sisyphus pushing the rock!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jun 06 - 10:35 PM

Some think the world is found in Fibonacci
And so do I.
And so do I.
Some say that face of God is fractal, blotchy,
And streaked with pi.
This we deny.

For I, I love to set the spheres a humming
In orders clear
Those magic spheres
To send the fractal mathematicians bumming
Is purpose dear,
Both high and dear!

Harken! Harken! Radiii abound!
Squares of powers! How it comes around!
Fibonacci, watchy, kitchy, kootchy
Fibonacci, watchee, kitchee, kootchee
Fibonacci WAHHHHH! FiboNAAAACI!

(Repeat asymptotically until tolerance of zero is close to perfection.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 08:29 AM

Amos, you continue to astound me. That is actually singable. and it makes sense. It is attribution, however.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 08:33 AM

Moreover, the Followers contend that all numbers are only found in raspberry pi. No other sort, and especially not lemon meringue, will work.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 08:52 AM

so that's what those teensy little hard things are in raspberry pie! I knew they weren't seeds. They are encapsulated numbers!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 09:03 AM

And if you eat them they will grow in you. This is how the Followers enslave bodies and minds.

Since raspberry pi is delicious, you can eat it only if you pick all of the encapsulated numbers out.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 11:50 AM

Did you dig those bits out of the midden to put in the pi?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 12:53 PM

Dragging pi toward the midden values will avail nothing -- it is the blind thrashing of extremists, like declaring Evolution illegal and encoding the flatness of the planet into law. It serves nothing but as a testimony to ignorance.

Every time you draw a circle
That is perfect to the eye
If you measure you will find the key
To all those radii
It's a perfect puiece of beauty
3.1 to n on high
And the wise men all will tell you,
If you seek to answert "Why",

That's the maaagic
The maaaagick of Pi!

You can try a small or frail one
But this truth you can't escape
Even just a nano-scaled one
Or a giant cosmic crêpe
As the egg becomes the circle
Faster than the human eye,

Comes the magic
The magic of Pi.

Bridge:

Though you try to dodge it
Out-think or dislodge it
It will out-do all your tricks.
And no matter what the season,
IF you take a circular reason,
You'll end up with
3.1415926!

You can play with each parameter
And modify diameters
Until the pigs can fly
You can argue about inference
But somehow that circumference
Will show you, 'til you die,

The maaaagic
The magic of Pi!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: MMario
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 01:04 PM

Why are there so many
songs about numbers
and how to calculate pi?

Numbers are fractal; and not an illusion,
and you cannot legislate Pi.
So we've been told and some choose to believe it
I know they're wrong, wait and see.
Someday we'll find it, the MOAB connection,
Rapire, Amos, and me.

La, la la, La, la la la, La Laa, la la, La, La la laaaaaaa


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 02:56 PM

Counting sheep
When you're trying to sleep,
Being fair
When there's something to share,
Being neat
When you're folding a sheet,
That's mathematics!

When a ball
Bounces off of a wall,
When you cook
From a recipe book,
When you know
How much money you owe,
That's mathematics!

How much gold can you hold in an elephant's ear?
When it's noon on the moon, then what time is it here?
If you could count for a year, would you get to infinity,
Or somewhere in that vicinity?

When you choose
How much postage to use,
When you know
What's the chance it will snow,
When you bet
And you end up in debt,
Oh try as you may,
You just can't get away
From mathematics!

Andrew Wiles gently smiles,
Does his thing, and voila!
Q.E.D., we agree,
And we all shout hurrah!
As he confirms what Fermat
Jotted down in that margin,
Which could've used some enlargin'.

Tap your feet,
Keepin' time to a beat,
Of a song
While you're singing along,
Harmonize
With the rest of the guys,
Yes, try as you may,
You just can't get away
From mathematics!

       -- Tom Lehrer


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 03:03 PM

"American Pi"
all rights reserved
lyric © 1997- 2005 Lawrence Mark Lesser
May be sung to the tune of Don McLean's "American Pie"


          Find, find the value of pi,   
          Starts 3 point 1 4 1 5 9.
          Good ol' boys gave it a try,
          But the decimal never dies, the decimal never dies......

In the Bible we do see the circle ratio appears as three,
Or a little more....
That genius Archimedes found with polygons, an upper bound
Of 22 sevenths for sure!
The Chinese got it really keen: three-five-five over one thirteen!
More joined the action with arctan series and continued fractions.
In the 1700's, my oh my,the English coined the symbol π,
Then Lambert showed it was a lie to look for rational pi.

He started singing   ..........   

          Find, find the value of pi
          Twice 11 over 7 is a mighty fine try
          A good ol' fraction you might hope to supply,
          But the decimal never dies, the decimal never dies.

Late 1800's, Lindemann shared why a circle can't be squared
But some folks tried anyway--
Like the Indiana doctor who said pi was 4 or 3.2
And thought his proof should be a law someday.
The Indiana congressmen
Discussed his paper there and then
A bill got through the House by a vote unanimous!
But in the end the statesmen sighed, "It's not for us to decide,"
So the bill was left to die
Like the quest for rational pi.

They started singing ........

          Find, find the value of pi
          Buffon's needle popped the bubble of that ol' doctor's try
          A good ol' fraction could not be supplied
          'Cause the decimal never dies, the decimal never dies.

That doctor's pi in the sky dreams may not look so extreme
'Cause we long believed
Deductive systems could be complete and there was one true geometry.
But now there's more we see
In these computer times, we test the best machines to find
pi to a trillion places that so far lack pattern's traces.
It's great when we can truly see math as human history--
That adds curiosity......    easy as pi!

Let's all try singing.....      

          Find, find the value of pi
          3 point 1 4 1 5 9 2 6 5 3 5 8 9...
          A good ol' fraction you might hope to define
          But the decimal never dies, the decimal never dies.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 03:07 PM

"Statistician's BLUEs"
words & music copyright 1994- 2001 Lawrence Mark Lesser
(all rights reserved; reprinted with permission;
may be sung as a standard 12-bar blues, with the words in parentheses
more spoken than sung during the final 2 bars of each 12).

I've been mean-in' to tell ya 'bout my last co-relation,
I've been median to tell ya 'bout my last co-relation:
She wasn't from Haiti, but she was variation!
(unexplained and uncontrolled!)

I saw her with ANOVA man, and they were not discrete,
I saw her with ANOVA man, and they were not discrete--
I went proba-ballistic and let out a Pearson scream!
(those deviates! What a moment!)

Told her, "If you're gamma data me, mu beta change your mode.
If you gamma data me, mu beta change your mode.
Chi-square you'll be inference, if you random that road!
(you'll be confounded-- and skewed!)"

Called up my dad: "Hi Pa! This is testing my heart!"
Yeah I told my dad: "Hypothesis testing my heart!"
He said,"What's your expectation? Ya met her at an X-bar."
("You're right, Dad! Simulator!")

(solo/instrumental verse)

She was my significant other -- significant at point-oh-three,
She was my significant other -- significant at point-oh-three,
But alpha get her soon -- as sample as can be!
(That'll Fisher! Time serious!)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 04:52 PM

Whoe'er would search the starry sky,
Its secrets to divine, sir,
Should take his glass-I mean, should try
A glass or two of wine, sir!
True virtue lies in golden mean,
And man must wet his clay, sir;
Join these two maxims, and 'tis seen
He should drink his bottle a day, sir!

Old Archimedes, reverend sage!
By trump of fame renowned, sir,
Deep problems solved in every page,
And the sphere's curved surface found, sir:
Himself he would have far outshone,
And borne a wider sway, sir,
Had he our modern secret known,
And drank a bottle a day, sir!

When Ptolemy, now long ago,
Believed the Earth stood still, sir,
He never would have blundered so,
Had he but drunk his fill, sir:
He'd then have felt it circulate,
And would have learnt to say, sir,
The true way to investigate
Is to drink your bottle a day, sir!

Copernicus, that learned wight,
The glory of his nation,
With draughts of wine refreshed his sight,
And saw the Earth's rotation
Each planet then its orb described,
The Moon got under way, sir;
These truths from nature he imbibed
For he drank his bottle a day, sir!

The noble Tycho placed the stars,
Each in its due location;
He lost his nose by spite of Mars,
But that was no privation:
Had he but lost his mouth, I grant
He would have felt dismay, sir,
Bless you! he knew what he should want
To drink his bottle a day, sir!

Cold water makes no lucky hits;
On mysteries the head runs:
Small drink let Kepler time his wits
On the regular polyhedrons:
He took to wine, and it changed the chime,
His genius swept away, sir,
Through area varying as the time
At the rate of a bottle a day, sir!

Poor Galileo, forced to rat
Before the Inquisition,
E pur si muove was the pat
He gave them in addition:
He meant, whate'er you think you prove,
The Earth must go its way, sirs;
Spite of your teeth I'll make it move,
For I'll drink my bottle a day, sirs!

Great Newton, who was never beat
Whatever fools may think, sir;
Though sometimes he forgot to eat,
He never forgot to drink, sir:
Descartes took nought but lemonade,
To conquer him was play, sir;
The first advance that Newton made
Was to drink his bottle a day, sir!

D'Alembert, Euler, and Clairaut,
Though they increased our store, sir,
Much further had been seen to go
Had they tippled a little more, sir!
Lagrange gets mellow with Laplace,
And both are wont to say, sir,
The philosophe who's not an ass
Will drink his bottle a day, sir!

Astronomers! what can avail
Those who calumniate us;
Experiment can never fail
With such an apparatus;
Let him who'd have his merits known
Remember what I say, sir;
Fair science shines on him alone
Who drinks his bottle a day, sir!

How light we reck of those who mock
By this we'll make to appear, sir,
We'll dine by the sidereal clock
For one more bottle a year, sir:
But choose which pendulum you will,
You'll never make your way, sir,
Unless you drink--and drink your fill,
At least a bottle a day, sir!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 06:12 PM

Rapaire's contribution was The Astronomer's Drinking Song, published by Augustus de Morgan in "A Budget of Paradoxes";the author of the piece is unknown.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 06:13 PM

Thank you Rapaire. I have a statistician to cheer up, and borrowed verse is cheaper than single malt...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 09:12 PM

Was that one of Lehrer's songs for Electric Company?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 09:52 PM

It was, as far as I know, sung for the Fermat Festival in 1993. I think.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 10:38 PM

Now we like to celebrate our BSing abilities and this long and wunnerful collection of pure BS we have generated.

But Hugh the Banjoest has sent me a link that makes me realize we have to honor the masters who came before -- those who cured everything with their 40% Alcohol Microbe Killer Medicines, Swamp-Root, Pepso-Lax and a hundred other wonderful Elixirs, the Masters of the Medicine Show.

It's a Real One PLayer file called "Free Show Tonight" and it will make you laugh, and tap your feet, too.

It's right over here! (click) Go on -- you'll love it!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 06 - 11:33 PM

Yeah, but sometimes their stuff had stuff in it that actually worked.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 03:40 AM

I got them long, laxing energizing lunkers deep inside "o me
can't really say if it's good or just like choc-o-let-pudd-ing.
Raised up on corn bread with jam made from the berr-ah-er-aer-a-ry
Just still can't relate my<::>self to me:::::::::::::
Ya-ya-ya-ya-hhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
Eating some cel-er-y-Ya ya ya ya ehaw:::::::


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:39 PM

Rustic Rebel loves to pome,
Pomes all day when she's tuh home!
But when she's out upon the range,
Something makes her pomes go strange!
Locoweed, from up the hill,
Celery, or maybe dill,
Some damn vegetable or uvver,
But strange or not, usn's still luvver.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 02:32 PM

And if it had been a poetical chantey parody he'd say
"usn's still lubber."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 02:35 PM

My moral compass wouldn't let me use the lubber line, Mag. Maybe I'm bi-polar?


:D


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 06:32 PM

Some damn vegetable or uvver,
But strange or not, usn's still luvver.


Perhaps a whaling chantey:

"Some damn vegetable, or blubber,
But strange or not, we all still lubber."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 10:40 PM

My moral compass always points sorta South. I think it might be busted.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 11:43 PM

You gotta watch it when your moral compass needs to be swung. If you put it off too long, someone else will do it for you, using a hemp rope, which works exceeding poor.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 11:00 AM

I figured it out, Amos. The needle was stuck. I whacked it with a hammer a couple of times to unstick the needle and now it points up, sort of. But ever since last night when I did that I have this almost uncontrollable urge to enter politics....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 11:25 AM

That explains a lot about those who have done so before you.

A broken moral compass, cracked in the glass and warped in the bearings, dead to the genuine flux of the planet, but bent in such a way as to always appear North-pointing.

Hmmmm?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 07:45 PM

Well, I took my moral compass out the shootin' range today. I got out the Old Girl and loaded her up. Then I took my best sitting, supported, position and proceeded to shoot ten rounds at a target 100 yards away.

I didn't do real well. In fact, I only got four "in the black." That's not good shootin'.

So, I stood up, reloaded, and started shooting at various plastic bottles others had left there (being a good member of the shooting club, I cleaned all of it up when I finished -- really). On the first shot I flung a bottle clear over the the 20 foot high backstop. And with fifteen more shots I cleared fifteen pieces of junk from the target area.

This was done standing, open (non-telescopic) sights, 100 yards, 180-grain Remington Core-Lokt 30-06 ammo, using a rifle that was manufactured (dated by both markings and serial number) by Winchester in May, 1918.

On the other hand, I left the assembly line in early 1945 and I'm feeling every second since then. Something about the fresh air and the outdoors brings out the wimp in me.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 10:16 PM

I dreamed I sat on Shatner's hat
On Shatner's hat is where I sat
I don't know where Shat's hat was at
Just that Shat's hat was where I sat
And when I sat, Shat's hat went "Splat!"
And then his hat was very flat
Yes, flatter than a cricket bat
And flatter than a welcome mat
There's never been a flatter hat
Than Shatner's hat, on which I sat


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 10:22 PM

Is that from that epic work, "The Shat In The Hat" or from its sequel "The Shat In The Hat Comes Back"????


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 06 - 11:12 PM

A slattern's heat, a slitted sheet
And sitting on a Shatner hat
Are kindred dreams, of shit and heat,
And hollow dreams for he who sits,
A haunted, tattered, sailor cat,
Dreaming of shitty Shatner fat,
And of his sadly flattened hat.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 12:07 AM

Where art thou, Shat
With your flat hat
Upon which sat
A slattern fat
'Til your flat hat
Was a flatter flat
Flatteringly flat
Your slattern sat hat
And now, Fat Shat,
Where art thou, Shat
With your flat hat
Upon which sat
A slattern fat?

    --Oscar von und zu Wienerhoff, 1923.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: GUEST,William Shatner
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 12:25 AM

Ooof!

Wow. Did I have a wierd dream . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 10:01 AM

Ewwww!! Shatner!! Yuck!! Ugh!!! Ewwww! Appropriate ward-signs with fingers in air!! Pewwwww!!!

(That was no dream -- we really did write those poems, for good and sufficient reason.)


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 10:48 AM

The fat cat sat
On Shatner's hat
Now a flatter flat hat
Because of that
Oh my said Shat
My poor flat hat
Is a flatter flat
For the fat cat sat
On my flat hat.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 12:20 PM

A lazy lug
With ugly mug
Squat as a pug
Wearing a plug-ugly rug
Would you be bugged?
I think, said Doug,
I'd hit the jug
Or yell "Go fugg!"
At such a lug!
If such a mug
Should try to hug,
I would be bugged,
I would, said Doug
I'd swing and slug
His ugly mug.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 10:47 PM

Well, all the gravelly stones are shaken, raked, sieved and barrowed away from the front yard and we are examining where the wall should go. Several ideas are forthcoming. My goodness, yes. Why, with a few thousand dollars we will have just a dreamy wall, indeed.

So I am running various spreadsheets of measurements to see where the price point will finally lie. But I can tell you know it will be lovely.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 11:02 PM

Won't George and Arnie send the California National Guard to help? Can't you get some of that border security money?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 11:05 PM

I wouldn't have 'em. There's some kind of help a man in his right mind just won't accept. Lie down with pigs, and you get up dripping slops.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 05 Jun 06 - 11:06 PM

Why, yes, what a good idea! They're all amending walls as fast as they can.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Amos
Date: 06 Jun 06 - 12:25 AM

Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,
And spills the upper boulders in the sun;
And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.
The work of hunters is another thing:
I have come after them and made repair
Where they have left not one stone on stone,
But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,
To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,
No one has seen them made or heard them made,
But at spring mending-time we find them there.
I let my neighbor know beyond the hill;
And on a day we meet to walk the line
And set the wall between us once again.
We keep the wall between us as we go.
To each the boulders that have fallen to each.
And some are loaves and some so nearly balls
We have to use a spell to make them balance:
"Stay where you are until our backs are turned!"
We wear our fingers rough with handling them.
Oh, just another kind of outdoor game,
One on a side. It comes to little more:
He is all pine and I am apple-orchard.
My apple trees will never get across
And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.
He only says, "Good fences make good neighbors."
Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder
If I could put a notion in his head:
"Why do they make good neighbors? Isn't it
Where there are cows? But here there are no cows.
Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offence.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That wants it down!" I could say "Elves" to him,
But it's not elves exactly, and I'd rather
He said it for himself. ...

A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Acme
Date: 06 Jun 06 - 01:05 AM

I don't think Dubya or Ahhnold would get your Frosty reception, Amos. Amending [laws] they will go. . .(I have to give that pun a little more air time, considering the rare opportunity to use it).


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